Brazil In Turmoil: Jailed for corruption, ex-President Lula registered for presidency bid again

dont want to sound racist but why is south america so violent in so many places...i could understand mexico as it supplies the drugs to USA and easy money attracts a lot of people but i cant imagine Brazil being a prime exporter of it.
 
dont want to sound racist but why is south america so violent in so many places...i could understand mexico as it supplies the drugs to USA and easy money attracts a lot of people but i cant imagine Brazil being a prime exporter of it.

I find it kind of weird too, Chile, Argentina, Peru and non-drug trade and production countries dont have this level of violence, not even close.
 
I think there is a big difference. Duterte became so brash i think mainly due to China having his back.

Brazil is a big country on its own.

I was referring to domestic policies though.

Strong-man Bolsonaro would quickly get the military and police under his wings, and the people would allow him to do whatever he want in the name of cleaning up the trash, as long as high-profile arrests are made regularly.
 
I was referring to domestic policies though.

Strong-man Bolsonaro would quickly get the military and police under his wings, and the people would allow him to do whatever he want in the name of cleaning up the trash, as long as high-profile arrests are made regularly.

Has Bolsonaro ever criticized the rule of law and democratic institutions?

Reading about him, he is far right in terms of the social democracy, in terms of US democracy he seems to be a moderate Republican.

Anti-gay, anti-abortion, anti-welfare, pro-free trade, pro-gun.
 
Has Bolsonaro ever criticized the rule of law and democratic institutions?

Reading about him, he is far right in terms of the social democracy, in terms of US democracy he seems to be a moderate Republican.

Anti-gay, anti-abortion, anti-welfare, pro-free trade, pro-gun.

He is not full anti abortion he just not want to expand it. Will allow for rape and medical or other severe issues. The anti gay stuff supported by like half the population gay marriage was passed by there leftist court judges not by vote or will of people, those poor masses not for the gay either. Any racism is overplayed and at worse is directed to people who live in the Jungle the natives who like 1% of population or small black population of 6% who not integrate.

His haters say he will start concentration camps for non prados and Caucasians and will round up gays. That is just such BS. He favor it seem return to Rule of law days when Brazil had military in government but wants combine that with civil people politician and have economy that is more capitalist but not mass immigration. He also anti refugee or change demographics of country but that is something it seem wide support. I think worst thing he say is some comments about women that it. He also cannot be a white supremacist because prados (like your mestizos) would be needed there vote to make him president and he never showed dislike to them. He praises many and wants to help the drug issues and crime which affect them very much. People I read want return to safe times.
 
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I find it kind of weird too, Chile, Argentina, Peru and non-drug trade and production countries dont have this level of violence, not even close.

cultural / racial
 
Has Bolsonaro ever criticized the rule of law and democratic institutions?

He believes that a mass increase of extra-judicial killing by the police is the solution to widespread violence in Brazil's favelas.

He takes an uncompromising approach to law-and-order issues. He believes liberalizing Brazil’s gun laws would help tackle the country’s staggering crime rate. He also wants to ensure police are rewarded for stopping criminals, no matter how they do it.

"The police officer is going to be able to shoot and if he defeats the enemy he is going to get a medal and not a trial," he said.

The problem is like most Brazilian institutions, the police in Rio is corrupted as hell.
 
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He believes that a mass increase of extra-judicial killing by the police is the solution to widespread violence in Brazil's favelas.

The problem is like most Brazilian institutions, the police in Rio is corrupted as hell.

I did not see his name in that link. When he say that. It true tjough

Only worry part is this

"Congress made matters worse by approving a bill in October that shields members of the armed forces accused of unlawful killings of civilians from prosecution in civilian courts, moving such trials to military courts."

Not give accountability it move to military which may have bias.
 
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He believes that a mass increase of extra-judicial killing by the police is the solution to widespread violence in Brazil's favelas.

The problem is like most Brazilian institutions, the police in Rio is corrupted as hell.

I think part of what makes a dictator is the cult of personality and the right in Latin America is not big when it comes to it.

I cant find a source that says that he thinks that the police should be able to murder people with impunity, nor that judges and congress should be ignored. He also claims he is not a populist and that he wants more trade with the USA thats not something you would expect from someone looking to be dictator for life.

I dont know if the translation is correct, but he doesnt seems to be even close to Duterte's level of craziness.

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/arti...ises-in-brazil-polls-as-threat-to-the-corrupt

That being said social conservativism is a no-no for me, although free trade and fiscal responsibility are kinda my number one issue, i just dont like religious people in government.

His "nationalism" seems to be more about not wanting Brazil to be bought uo by the Chinese and i dont blame him, the Russians may try to destabilize but the Chinese outright support dictators in a very exploitative early XX century US-banana republic reminiscent way.
 
I think part of what makes a dictator is the cult of personality and the right in Latin America is not big when it comes to it.

I cant find a source that says that he thinks that the police should be able to murder people with impunity, nor that judges and congress should be ignored. He also claims he is not a populist and that he wants more trade with the USA thats not something you would expect from someone looking to be dictator for life.

I dont know if the translation is correct, but he doesnt seems to be even close to Duterte's level of craziness.

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/arti...ises-in-brazil-polls-as-threat-to-the-corrupt

That being said social conservativism is a no-no for me, although free trade and fiscal responsibility are kinda my number one issue, i just dont like religious people in government.

His "nationalism" seems to be more about not wanting Brazil to be bought uo by the Chinese and i dont blame him, the Russians may try to destabilize but the Chinese outright support dictators in a very exploitative early XX century US-banana republic reminiscent way.

I bet the CIA wants him to win. Anyone who wants more economic trade and serving to US is there ally. Big thing with him is he a change from lying do nothing politicians they had for long time.
 
I bet the CIA wants him to win. Anyone who wants more economic trade and serving to US is there ally. Big thing with him is he a change from lying do nothing politicians they had for long time.

I would normally agree, but the Trump CIA is just crazy in its own.
 
I would normally agree, but the Trump CIA is just crazy in its own.

Isn' Trump right wing? American foreign policy has always never changed. Even during there suppose liberals in Obama and Clinton. Maybe all that change is there statement and stuff like supporting a climate change thing. But climate change can be on both sides american right wingers tend to be anti government and weird cray super capitalists who want no government but eight wing around rest of the world means they want socialism but without liberal social policies like a non Hitler type nationalism see China or they want right wing government but lots more government.

America unique they got people who want to weaken government. Right wing in latin america means more government and all that shit but instead also mean open up economy for trade and stuff like that.


Why would they not support him? Jair would be good for US and for global right wing shift.
 
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I would normally agree, but the Trump CIA is just crazy in its own.

It not like the Americans have a giant hold in Brazil and jair is the man to do that and give it to them. Dude also is pro Israel and says stuff that seem to align with Trump foreign policy and want massive trade with US. It is a perfect scenario for CIA to help him get elected. And even if Trump leave office and Democrat come in they still be allies to America so long as not try overthrow him and his conservative coalition.
 
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Brazil Looks to Crack Down on Fake News Ahead of Bitter Election
By ERNESTO LONDOÑO | FEB. 17, 2018



RIO DE JANEIRO — Worried that Brazilians will soon be flooded with fake news ahead of a critical presidential election, the country is setting out to crack down on organized efforts to intentionally mislead voters.

The officials leading the effort argue that the right to free speech cannot come at the expense of an illegitimate outcome, in an election that could dramatically alter the course of Brazil, the world’s fourth-largest democracy.

“It is necessary to consider which of these two principles must be sacrificed in the name of an election that is neutral and not tainted by deceitful news,” said Luiz Fux, a Supreme Court justice who recently assumed the presidency of the Supreme Electoral Tribunal, the highest authority on election laws and regulations. “Sometimes the excessive concern with freedom of expression ends up violating a more important principle — the democratic principle.”

At Justice Fux’s direction, Brazil’s Federal Police recently established a task force of law enforcement and intelligence personnel, which is developing strategies to prevent fake news from being produced and to limit its reach once misleading content starts spreading online.

“It is not our intention to infringe on anyone’s freedom of expression or their right to voice an opinion,” said Eugênio Ricas, the director of the Federal Police’s organized crime division, who is leading the fake news task force. “The big question is when does a personal opinion become a lie about a candidate that is published with the specific intent of harming them and in doing so interfering with an election.”

Judicial officials say the task force is studying the tactics used by groups that have been active in spreading fake news in the past and assessing under which current laws they could most effectively be charged. They have also been consulting and negotiating with American technology companies, including Google, Twitter, Facebook and WhatsApp, in hopes of turning them into partners in the fight against fake news rather than targets of enforcement actions and fines.
 
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Fake news threat looms over Brazilian election
Nation is fertile ground for misinformation due to widespread distrust of politicians

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Brazil’s soft-spoken presidential candidate Marina Silva does not raise her voice, except when recalling the disinformation campaign that marred her last run for office.

“Fake news didn’t start with Trump, it started with me in 2014,” says the environmentalist who took 22m votes four years ago, and who is running third in the polls ahead of October’s vote.

“There was fake news coming from all sides,” she adds. “I went through an overwhelming process of delegitimisation through the spreading of countless lies.”

Stories began circulating that Ms Silva, who campaigns to halt the destruction of the Amazon rainforest, wanted to end schemes to help the poor, push though policies to aid bankers, and ban Catholic feasts due to her evangelical Christian beliefs. “I was posed as a sort of exterminator of the future,” she says.

With Brazil braced for its most uncertain presidential election in recent history, there are signs that dark forces are ready to use even more extreme tactics to distort the truth, discredit candidates and manipulate the result.

The battleground is the social media networks, websites and blogs that will play a critical role in the vote. Brazil is Facebook’s third-largest market, after India and the US, with 130m users, from a population of 208m. Fake news can be shared easily — often unwittingly — via its news feeds or on other networks such as Twitter. More than 100m Brazilians also uses the WhatsApp messaging service, another simple way to distribute specious content.

Brazil is also fertile ground for conspiracies and other hoaxes that thrive online due to widespread public anger and distrust at the political class following a string of high-level corruption scandals.

“Brazil is more polarised than the US was [before the 2016 presidential vote], and the political and social conditions make it a tinderbox that is ripe for misinformation,” says Claire Wardle, director of First Draft, a Harvard University project that seeks to combat disinformation.

Pablo Ortellado, a University of São Paulo researcher who has studied how people access information online, says half the news circulating on Brazilian social media can be fabricated. With about 12m Brazilian users sharing content from Facebook’s most popular politics web pages, they can easily reach every corner of the country.

“They are feeding political polarisation, scaring people, getting indignant, and dividing society,” he says of the hardcore from the left and right who create and knowingly share such content.

The problem is exacerbated by a ban on corporate donations to campaigns that has forced candidates to focus on social networks rather than more expensive traditional campaigning, according to Tai Nalon of Aos Fatos, a Brazilian fact-checking platform. An army of bloggers and informal news sites adds to the confusing picture.

Joe Harrod, founder of data science company Signify, says the spread of fake news in Brazil follows the same model seen in the run-up to the UK’s Brexit referendum, the vote that elected Donald Trump to the White House, and Marine Le Pen’s campaign for the French presidency.

The instigators “take mainstream stories and give them a much more radical slant on alternative news sites with a large social footprint”, he explains. They use closed social media channels to promote content and “troll” opponents on public platforms to undermine or invalidate their arguments.

https://www.ft.com/content/ea6f9b82-10e7-11e8-8cb6-b9ccc4c4dbbb
 
Brazil sinks deeper into junk debt status
by Patrick Gillespie | February 23, 2018

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Brazil is struggling to prove that it's cleaning up corruption and fixing its economy.


Latin America's largest country had its debt downgraded deeper into junk territory on Friday by Fitch Ratings.

Ratings are important. A high rating can draw foreign investment, which can create jobs and boost growth. A low rating deters mainstream investors and attracts high-risk buyers, generally not the type governments want to recruit.

Political uncertainty, failure to reform the pension system, and large fiscal deficits triggered the decline, Fitch said in a statement. Standard & Poor's, another debt rating agency, downgraded Brazil in January. It entered junk territory in 2015.

It's a setback for Brazil, which just last year came out of the longest recession in its history. Its recovery has been anemic. And its presidential election this fall has been dogged by fears of a return to populism and complicated by a front-runner facing possible jail time.

Unemployment remains high at 11.8%. Before the corruption-fueled recession, unemployment was near 6%.

A longstanding push to reform Brazil's pension system failed in the legislature earlier this month. That all but confirmed that any such reform will have to wait until a new president takes office in 2019.

More bad news arrived Wednesday when a nonprofit, Transparency International, severely lowered Brazil in its annual corruption rankings. Brazil ranked 96th out of 180 countries. It ranked 69th in 2014 and 79th in 2016.

http://money.cnn.com/2018/02/23/news/economy/brazil-debt-junk/index.html
 
Brazil ranked 96th out of 180 countries. It ranked 69th in 2014 and 79th in 2016.

When it hits 115 the military, the Army, will take over the country. Than it will go back to 50.

"On the 17th of September 2017, Brazilian Army General Antonio Hamilton Martins Mourão, during a lecture for a Masonic Lodge in Brasília, advocated the possibility of an interference of the Armed Forces in Brazilian politics. He said that “the institutions [must] resolve the political crisis by judicial means, removing from public office all individuals involved in criminal offenses; for otherwise we [the Army] will have to impose this remedy.” He added that such a solution would not be easy, generating problems, but that the members of the Armed Forces should meet their commitment to the Homeland, regardless of whether they are applauded or not. Finally, he said that they must have a clear conscience that they “did their best” [to find a solution], in the sense that “if it must happen, it will happen.”
The Brazilian Constitution of 1988, the Armed Forces, and the Coup d’Etat - Emilio Peluso Neder Meyer, Federal University of Minas Gerais, Brazil, Faculty of Law.
 

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