Brazil In Turmoil: Jailed for corruption, ex-President Lula registered for presidency bid again

Brazil’s Military Is Put in Charge of Security in Rio de Janeiro
By ERNESTO LONDOÑO and SHASTA DARLINGTON | FEB. 16, 2018



RIO DE JANEIRO — After months of escalating violence in Rio de Janeiro that included television coverage of tourists being chased and beaten by robbers during the famed Carnival festivities, Brazil’s president on Friday ordered the military to take control of public security in the state.

It is the first federal intervention in a state since Brazil’s return to democracy in the 1980s, and it is seen by some as a bid by the president, Michel Temer, to improve his favorability ratings rather than as a measure to tackle crime.

The decree signed by Mr. Temer on Friday afternoon falls short of a full intervention in the state government. While the military will take control of security, Gov. Luiz Fernando Pezão will continue to run the state government of Rio de Janeiro.

“This decision is motivated more by politics than sound public administration,” said Kennedy Alencar, a political commentator and blogger in Brasília, Brazil’s capital. “Now the focus of news will be on the president’s federal intervention to address an issue that concerns the whole country.”

The decision was made two days after the end of Carnival, when about 1.5 million tourists descended on Rio, Brazil’s second-largest city, for the annual parades and partying. But this year the festivities were marred by mass robberies, the looting of stores and shootouts between the police and drug gangs.

The decree confers broad authority on the military to restore order. It also places police forces, which have had shortages of personnel and equipment, under the command of a general, Walter Souza Braga Netto, who oversees military operations in the eastern part of the country.

“Together, the police and the armed forces will combat and confront those who have kidnapped our cities,” Mr. Temer said at the signing ceremony in Brasília. “Prison cells will no longer be thieves’ personal offices. Public squares will no longer be the reception halls for organized crime.”

Experts questioned the timing and motivation of the decision. It comes as Mr. Temer, who took office after his predecessor was impeached in 2016, has been weighing whether he has a chance of being elected president in October, despite his single-digit approval numbers.

According to a poll last month, 38 percent of Brazilians said public security was a major concern as they considered whom to vote for. In Rio de Janeiro, violent crime, after gradually declining for almost a decade, has surged in the past two years.

In 2017, there were 6,731 violent deaths in the state of Rio, or 40 per 100,000 residents — the highest level in eight years. Carjackings, robberies of cellphones and kidnappings also increased.

The decree not only shows Mr. Temer being tough on crime, it also delays a vote on an unpopular legislative proposal on pensions that looked increasingly doomed to failure. Under the Constitution, Brazilian lawmakers are barred from making broad legal changes during a military intervention imposed by decree.

“On the political level, Temer might be killing two birds with one stone,” said Christopher Harig, an expert on civilian-military relations in Brazil at King’s College London. “At the same time he creates an excuse for not being able to pass the social security reform.”

Mr. Temer, who announced that he would travel to Rio on Saturday for a meeting on security, insisted that the pension overhaul could still be voted on by temporarily lifting the decree.

Brazil’s military leaders have expressed deep concern as the federal government has increasingly turned to the armed forces to quell outbreaks of violence around the country.

Gen. Eduardo Villas Bôas, the country’s top military commander, said recently that the armed forces could not be expected to solve a security crisis rooted in longstanding problems that other government agencies had failed to meaningfully address.

“Combating organized crime requires effective action by the government in economic and social spheres, in order to make drug trafficking less appealing in areas where a large segment of the population is grappling with unemployment,” General Bôas wrote in an email.

“Even as the military has been called to act in different areas, sometimes for lengthy periods,” he added, “we don’t observe considerable changes due to lack of engagement by government agencies responsible for other areas.”

After Brazil was selected to host the 2014 World Cup and the 2016 Olympics, officials adopted an ambitious plan to transform poor districts that had long been hubs for drug gangs by adopting a community policing model that was supposed to pave the way for better schools, sanitation, health care and jobs.

Those plans fell short amid pervasive corruption, and Brazil entered a long recession that left the state of Rio de Janeiro bankrupt.

General Bôas also warned that permanently deploying military personnel to the front lines of Rio’s drug wars increased the risk that soldiers might become complicit in organized crime.

“These criminal structures, especially those linked to drug trafficking with international ties, make it far more likely that institutions will become tainted,” he said in his email. “There’s a possibility that troops could become tainted.”

In Mexico, the use of the military to fight organized crime has produced mixed results. Since 2006, when Felipe Calderón, then the president, first authorized the use of the military, more than 200,000 people have been killed in drug-related violence, according to official statistics, prompting the United Nations to declare that “there is an urgent need to decrease the involvement of the military in policing.”

In Rio, as the police have lost control of large areas, well-armed drug gangs have acted as the de facto authority in several teeming communities known as favelas. Critics accuse the police of using heavy-handed tactics, limiting their effectiveness, and say some members of the force have colluded with criminal organizations.

For Rita de Cassia Santos de Silva, a 53-year-old street cleaner, the military would be an improvement over the police.

“I’m afraid of the police,” she said. “They go in and take whatever they want. I think people really only obey the army.”

But Raquel da Silva, a newspaper vendor, said she did not have high expectations. “The situation is out of control,” she said. “People are getting killed for a cellphone. But it’s not up to the police or the army — the problem lies much higher up. For us in poor communities, it’s just going to get worse.”

This is the first time such a decree has been issued since the Constitution was formed in 1988, at the end of Brazil’s military dictatorship, although the armed forces have become something of a fixture in Rio. They have been called in to support the police during special events like the Summer Olympics in 2016, when more than 80,000 officers, soldiers, traffic officers and firefighters provided security for the Games.

“We have seen the effect of using military to police Rio,” said Jurema Werneck, executive director of Amnesty International Brazil. “There was a significant increase in human rights violations, especially in the case of young black men.”

Under the Constitution, military intervention in a state can be decreed for a number of reasons, including when a foreign country invades Brazil, when the government wants to prevent secession or when there is a “serious” threat to public order.

Over the past few days, Brazilian television stations have broadcast images of bloody shootouts in the city’s favelas, and of Carnival tourists being chased down Ipanema Beach and beaten by robbers.

Governor Pezão acknowledged that the deployment of 17,000 police officers was not enough. “We weren’t prepared,” he told TV Globo.

The decree will be sent to Congress and requires approval by a simple majority in both houses within 10 days before it can be implemented. According to news media reports, the armed forces will be in charge of security until Dec. 31.

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/02/16/...-security.html?smid=tw-nytimesworld&smtyp=cur
 
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Is this the first step towards a dictatorship?

It's slapping a bandaid on a staph infection.

Sending in the troops does absolutely nothing in addressing the root cause for the recent surge in crimes, as the country is in turmoil politically and economically.

According to a poll last month, 38 percent of Brazilians said public security was a major concern as they considered whom to vote for. In Rio de Janeiro, violent crime, after gradually declining for almost a decade, has surged in the past two years.

In 2017, there were 6,731 violent deaths in the state of Rio, or 40 per 100,000 residents — the highest level in eight years. Carjackings, robberies of cellphones and kidnappings also increased.
 
It's slapping a bandaid on a staph infection.

Sending in the troops does absolutely nothing in addressing the root cause for the recent surge in crimes, as the country is in turmoil politically and economically.





What I noticed from my time living in Brazil is that those with possessions worth stealing are the ones who typically vote in favour of harsh penalties for theft, robbery, etc.

Those with nothing to lose seem to be the ones who vote for more lenient measures.



Since there are more poor than there are rich, oftentimes the wrong leaders/policies are implemented.




How do you think the problem of crime surges and political and economic turmoil should be addressed?
 
What I noticed from my time living in Brazil is that those with possessions worth stealing are the ones who typically vote in favour of harsh penalties for theft, robbery, etc.

Those with nothing to lose seem to be the ones who vote for more lenient measures.



Since there are more poor than there are rich, oftentimes the wrong leaders/policies are implemented.




How do you think the problem of crime surges and political and economic turmoil should be addressed?
sharia.

Inshallah.
 
Crime-ridden Brazil gets off to a bloody start in 2018
Carola Solé, Agence France-Presse | Feb 04 2018​

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Residents walk past a bus burnt after violent clashes between Police and drug dealers in Rocinha slum in Rio de Janeiro, Brazil, January 25, 2018.

RIO DE JANEIRO - The year was just a few hours old when a prison riot near the capital Brasilia left 9 inmates dead -- 2 of them decapitated -- and set the stage for what is proving to be a deadly 2018 in Brazil.

Since then, the country has seen a wave of violence that prompted Defense Minister Raul Jungmann this week to declare that "the security system is broken."

There have been 688 shooting incidents reported in Rio de Janeiro state in January, many of them focused in the same few sprawling, poor neighborhoods known as favelas where police are barely in control.

Then came the massacre of 14 people at a nightclub in the north-eastern city of Fortaleza, followed by the deaths of 10 people in clashes at a prison nearby.

While Brazil has long suffered high crime and Rio in particular is beset by drug gang wars, there was dismay this week in the "Marvelous City" at television footage of drivers on a main artery being forced to stop and hide behind their cars because of shooting between police and traffickers nearby.

CORRUPTION IN THE RANKS

Jungmann told Globo television that urgent change is needed.

"We have to take the necessary measures before it's too late and we find ourselves on the trajectory of other countries," he said, referring especially to Mexico.

But the task of taming criminal gangs and adequately training the police continues to elude politicians, partly because the root of the chaos stretch far beyond security and into poverty, poor education, poor municipal services, racism and deep inequality.

Drug trafficking gangs, meanwhile, have ever better weapons and operate often with impunity in favelas, while their leaders issue orders from prisons that the authorities only partially control.

On the other side are police forces -- notably in Rio -- crippled by corruption, poor funding, and a military style training that does not necessarily work in modern policing.

Jungmann said "penetration of crime throughout the police has to be combated."

HISTORIC ROOTS

Some trace Brazil's seemingly insoluble crime problems to the 1988 constitution, written at the end of a 2-decades long military dictatorship. This gave almost all budgetary and strategic responsibility for security to individual state governments.

"Public security was like the stepchild. We were coming out of a dictatorship and no one wanted to talk about public security," said Jose Mariano Beltrame, Rio's former security secretary.

"Why were health and education put under the federal government? Because they were considered important, they won votes. Today we're paying for that."

Arthur Trinidade, a former security chief for the capital and now at the University of Brasilia, told AFP "there is no doubt that Brazil needs a new federal agreement. Public security has to be a federal matter."

Trinidade said the national security body is understaffed, and that the police do not even have their own system for collecting reliable statistical data.

Organizations like the Brazilian Public Security Forum fill the gap when it comes to data. According to the non-governmental group's latest report, there were 61,619 homicides nationwide in 2016, or 7 an hour.

That means in terms of body counts that Brazil is already deadlier than Mexico, with 29.9 homicides per 100,000 people, compared to 21.

Ignacio Cano, an expert at Rio's state university, said the latest trend is for violence to grow in the far-flung regions of the north and north-east. He doesn't have much faith in the authorities' response.

"The federal government is on the defensive and makes bombastic declarations instead of taking measures, as a way of avoiding their responsibility," he said.
http://news.abs-cbn.com/overseas/02/04/18/crime-ridden-brazil-gets-off-to-a-bloody-start-in-2018
 
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What I noticed from my time living in Brazil is that those with possessions worth stealing are the ones who typically vote in favour of harsh penalties for theft, robbery, etc.

Those with nothing to lose seem to be the ones who vote for more lenient measures.



Since there are more poor than there are rich, oftentimes the wrong leaders/policies are implemented.




How do you think the problem of crime surges and political and economic turmoil should be addressed?

First step is to not voting for corrupted fucks to run the country in the upcoming election.

If a house has a leaky roof full of holes, ofcourse the carpet below would be rotten and the basement is flooded.
 
First step is to not voting for corrupted fucks to run the country.


Who isn't corrupt in Brazilian politics?
How does anyone know who is clean?

Compare it with the last election in USA. They had quite possibly the absolute two worst candidates in the history of elections in Clinton and Trump. Great choice there.
 
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As someone who knows and understands Brazil, its people and daily life better than you guys I would like to offer my point of view on this.

First it's important to understand that Rio de Janeiro is a beautiful city with a perhaps unsolvable problem. And that Rio is a perfect exemple of what Brazil is, only worse. Crime and violence are everywhere and all the time, it's constant and affects everyone. It doesn't give you a break, no matter where you live. You're a constant victim of it. From millionaire to poor.... the experience differs a lot but it's never a good one. In Brazil corruption, crime and violence is so common that it became part of live. Is normal. And of course the police is severely underpaid, badly trained and overworked. And often part of the problem.

The violence in Rio has civil war numbers and is mostly caused by drug lords. And they are always going at war with each other. The police (both military and civilian police) can't handle that level of aggression and violence. The morros, favelas are seen as territories by these drug lords and they don't ever allow the police to get there without a fight. Police officers die all the time trying to do their jobs. Honest people die all the time. Or are hurt by a gun shot. It's actually common to hear AK47 shots in Rio. This is not your typical urban violence. They have a fucking army trying to take over the city, it's not a fair fight for the police.

This is not a step towards another dictatorship it's simply a much needed acknowledgement that things have gone too far and that it needs to end. People have been asking for that for years now and I'm sure a lot are finally happy. Imagine living in a place where you're constantly in fear? I hope they do a good job and help the people in the favelas to finally have a some peace. Fuck Rio man, they have as much beauty as they have tragedy.
 
As someone who knows and understands Brazil, its people and daily life better than you guys I would like to offer my point of view on this.

First it's important to understand that Rio de Janeiro is a beautiful city with a perhaps unsolvable problem. And that Rio is a perfect exemple of what Brazil is, only worse. Crime and violence are everywhere and all the time, it's constant and affects everyone. It doesn't give you a break, no matter where you live. You're a constant victim of it. From millionaire to poor.... the experience differs a lot but it's never a good one. In Brazil corruption, crime and violence is so common that it became part of live. Is normal. And of course the police is severely underpaid, badly trained and overworked. And often part of the problem.

The violence in Rio has civil war numbers and is mostly caused by drug lords. And they are always going at war with each other. The police (both military and civilian police) can't handle that level of aggression and violence. The morros, favelas are seen as territories by these drug lords and they don't ever allow the police to get there without a fight. Police officers die all the time trying to do their jobs. Honest people die all the time. Or are hurt by a gun shot. It's actually common to hear AK47 shots in Rio. This is not your typical urban violence. They have a fucking army trying to take over the city, it's not a fair fight for the police.

This is not a step towards another dictatorship it's simply a much needed acknowledgement that things have gone too far and that it needs to end. People have been asking for that for years now and I'm sure a lot are finally happy. Imagine living in a place where you're constantly in fear? I hope they do a good job and help the people in the favelas to finally have a some peace. Fuck Rio man, they have as much beauty as they have tragedy.

I think Brazil is heading towards the same place as the Philippines: first they take their democracy for granted, kept voting for corrupted politicians, and accept violence as normal. Then when it becomes unbearable, they would vote for a dictator, hoping that he'll clean up the mess.

Bolsonaro, the Brazilian version of Duterte, is ready for prime time. Unless Brazilians decide to vote for rotten Lula for a third term:


Leftist Lion and Far-Right Provocateur Vie for Brazil Presidency

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SÃO PAULO, Brazil — The contest to replace President Michel Temer in October is shaping up to be a turbulent, bitter affair, with Brazilian voters confronting starkly different choices.

The two leading candidates are on opposite sides of the political spectrum, and both bring heaps of political baggage to the race.

The front-runner, Luiz Inácio Lula da Silva, a transformational figure of Latin America’s left who governed from 2003 to 2011, is vying to return for a third term, which would represent a dramatic comeback for his Workers’ Party after the 2016 impeachment of President Dilma Rousseff.

Mr. da Silva’s main predicament: In the coming days, an appeals court could render him ineligible to run for office, by upholding a conviction and nearly 10-year prison sentence for corruption and money laundering that was handed down in July.

Lagging behind him in second place is Representative Jair Bolsonaro, a far-right lawmaker with a long history of incendiary, crude remarks belittling women, blacks and gays.

Mr. Bolsonaro’s rise has stunned Brazilians, some of whom regard him as a symptom of just how troubled the world’s fourth largest democracy has become. A base of fervent supporters, however, views the brash former military officer as the radical solution needed to turn around the fortunes of a nation troubled by soaring violence, an epidemic of graft and an uneven recovery from a prolonged economic recession.

For voters looking for middle ground, the options are limited.

Centrists have struggled for months to prop up a viable moderate candidate, with several establishment figures having been tarnished by corruption scandals.

Outsiders with a plausible shot at the presidency, meanwhile, are wary of taking the reins of a political system many Brazilians regard as rotten to the core.

https://mobile.nytimes.com/2018/01/20/world/americas/brazil-lula-bolsonaro-election.html?referer=
 
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What I noticed from my time living in Brazil is that those with possessions worth stealing are the ones who typically vote in favour of harsh penalties for theft, robbery, etc.

Does these harsh penalties extend to white collar crimes?
 
Does these harsh penalties extend to white collar crimes?



Absolutely, for example, I think blatant corruption by government officials should be dealt with via death penalty.

There should also be no white collar prisons either, everyone in the same.
 
I think Brazil is heading towards the same place as the Philippines: first they take their democracy for granted, kept voting for corrupted politicians, and accept violence as normal. Then when it becomes unbearable, they would vote for a dictator, hoping that he'll clean up the mess.

Bolsonaro, the Brazilian version of Duterte, is ready for prime time. Unless Brazilians decide to vote for rotten Lula for a third term:


Leftist Lion and Far-Right Provocateur Vie for Brazil Presidency

merlin_126007430_de9061ed-16f6-4949-b239-73885d347d6a-jumbo.jpg

SÃO PAULO, Brazil — The contest to replace President Michel Temer in October is shaping up to be a turbulent, bitter affair, with Brazilian voters confronting starkly different choices.

The two leading candidates are on opposite sides of the political spectrum, and both bring heaps of political baggage to the race.

The front-runner, Luiz Inácio Lula da Silva, a transformational figure of Latin America’s left who governed from 2003 to 2011, is vying to return for a third term, which would represent a dramatic comeback for his Workers’ Party after the 2016 impeachment of President Dilma Rousseff.

Mr. da Silva’s main predicament: In the coming days, an appeals court could render him ineligible to run for office, by upholding a conviction and nearly 10-year prison sentence for corruption and money laundering that was handed down in July.

Lagging behind him in second place is Representative Jair Bolsonaro, a far-right lawmaker with a long history of incendiary, crude remarks belittling women, blacks and gays.

Mr. Bolsonaro’s rise has stunned Brazilians, some of whom regard him as a symptom of just how troubled the world’s fourth largest democracy has become. A base of fervent supporters, however, views the brash former military officer as the radical solution needed to turn around the fortunes of a nation troubled by soaring violence, an epidemic of graft and an uneven recovery from a prolonged economic recession.

For voters looking for middle ground, the options are limited.

Centrists have struggled for months to prop up a viable moderate candidate, with several establishment figures having been tarnished by corruption scandals.

Outsiders with a plausible shot at the presidency, meanwhile, are wary of taking the reins of a political system many Brazilians regard as rotten to the core.

https://mobile.nytimes.com/2018/01/20/world/americas/brazil-lula-bolsonaro-election.html?referer=

Hope Bolsonaro wins! he is way smarter and polish then Trump. but at same time i think Trump smarter than what he says since he is worth billions and seem to be good at business.

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I think Brazil is heading towards the same place as the Philippines: first they take their democracy for granted, kept voting for corrupted politicians, and accept violence as normal. Then when it becomes unbearable, they would vote for a dictator, hoping that he'll clean up the mess.

I think there is a big difference. Duterte became so brash i think mainly due to China having his back.

Brazil is a big country on its own.
 
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