International Brexit News & Discussion v7: British Parliament Rejects Theresa May's Brexit Deal (Again)

Whatever is agreed it's going to be an omnishambles for a while .
 
Sooo...what’s new with Brexit?

Well, current state would be that the EU has made an offer to the UK.
The UK has to say they accept it or not or what else they want.
But they are staling because they are unable to solve the Irish boarder situation.
 
Gosh damn, the Brits are too busy choking each others' throats to get anything done.

 
Irish Government gives Theresa May two weeks to solve Border issue

British prime minister Theresa May has two weeks to table written proposals on how to solve the Irish Border issue in order to avoid a Brexit crisis at a crucial EU summit later this month, the Government has said.

Tánaiste Simon Coveney says the European Union taskforce, led by Michel Barnier, must receive detailed proposals in writing from the British government within a fortnight.

This would allow time to debate and discuss the proposals ahead of the European Council meeting on June 28th and 29th. The Government has said substantial progress on the Border, including the so-called “backstop”, must be made by this summit.

“In the next two weeks, we need to see written proposals,” Mr Coveney told The Irish Times. “It needs to happen two weeks from the summit.”

Mr Coveney’s warning reflects increasing exasperation in Dublin and Brusselsthat no firm proposals have emerged from London, with just weeks until the summit.

https://www.irishtimes.com/news/ire...may-two-weeks-to-solve-border-issue-1.3516829

Tick tock !
 
Irish Government gives Theresa May two weeks to solve Border issue

Tick tock !

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Its like they want to have their cake and eat it too. I fully support this "bullying" by the EU, why should they treat the UK with kids gloves if they wanted out?
 
And we worry about russian meddling.
I just like how anything about subversive Soros is treated like a tinfoil ct by leftists but then remain quiet when links are presented. More recent Soros:

Hungarian Prime Minister Viktor Orban proposed the new 'Stop Soros' bill
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...time-people-trying-help-illegal-migrants.html

The bill suggests that individuals or organizations that help migrants submit requests for asylum when they are not entitled to protection be punished with up to a year in prison.

I bet leftists revisionist history wiki omisses loads about Soros never mentioning things like this. But this is going off topic so that's for another thread.
 
Revealed: plans for Doomsday Brexit

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/revealed-plans-for-doomsday-no-deal-brexit-02mld2jg2

It's behind a Paywall here is the whole thing:

Britain would be hit with shortages of medicine, fuel and food within a fortnight if the UK tries to leave the European Union without a deal, according to a Doomsday Brexit scenario drawn up by senior civil servants for David Davis.


Whitehall has begun contingency planning for the port of Dover to collapse “on day one” if Britain crashes out of the EU, leading to critical shortages of supplies.


Last month officials in Davis’s Brexit department and the departments of health and transport drew up scenarios for a no-deal Brexit — a mild one, a severe one and one dubbed “Armageddon”.


A source said: “In the second scenario, not even the worst, the port of Dover will collapse on day one. The supermarkets in Cornwall and Scotland will run out of food within a couple of days, and hospitals will run out of medicines within two weeks.”


Officials would have to charter aircraft, or use the RAF to ferry supplies to the furthest corners of the UK. “You would have to medevac medicine into Britain, and at the end of week two we would be running out of petrol as well,” the source said.


Concern about chaos at Dover was behind a decision by Highways England to announce plans last month to build “one or more lorry holding areas” in Kent “to reduce the congestion caused by cross-Channel disruption”.


It is understood that the papers were prepared for the so-called Inter-Ministerial Group on Preparedness, which meets weekly when parliament is sitting. One official said the scenarios are so explosive they have only been shared with a handful of ministers and are “locked in a safe”.


A spokesman for the Brexit department confirmed the discussions had taken place, but said it was “completely false” that the doomsday scenario would unfold: “A significant amount of work and decision-making has gone into our no-deal plans, especially where it relates to ports, and we know that none of this would come to pass.”


But the details were leaked by officials who believe Brexiteers are still too bullish about the prospect of walking away and trading on World Trade Organisation terms.


Brexiteers accused the civil service of peddling a new version of “Project Fear”. Iain Duncan Smith, the former Tory leader, said: “They are frozen in the headlights. They should be planning for what happens if there is no deal, not scaring the pants off each other. We need people with imagination and courage, not frightened rabbits.”


The government has said it would in effect throw open Britain’s borders in the event of a no-deal Brexit. But officials fear the EU, particularly the French, would not do the same.


A senior official said: “We are entirely dependent on Europe reciprocating our posture that we will do nothing to impede the flow of goods into the UK. If, for whatever reason, Europe decides to slow that supply down, then we’re screwed.”


Disrupting trade would lead to “reciprocal jeopardy”, with the French also running short of medicines, but officials believe that would take six months to have an effect. “The French are militant about borders,” a source added.


Davis has sought to persuade civic leaders in key ports such as Calais and Antwerp to tell their central governments that goods must keep flowing.


Layla Moran, a Liberal Democrat who speaks for the pro-remain group Best for Britain, called on the government to publish the documents. “We can now see that the government are driving us all towards disaster. What is worse is that they know it too,” she said.


In a detailed analysis of the state of the Brexit negotiations today, The Sunday Times also reveals:


■ Davis and Theresa May clashed last week over the publication of a white paper on Brexit, with the prime minister blocking its release until after the next EU summit on June 28. Davis wanted it released by June 14


■ UK officials said the June summit was heading for a “car crash” because “no progress has been made since March” to devise plans for a long-term deal


■ The 150-page white paper still contains large areas of red ink where the cabinet is yet to agree a plan


■ The prime minister’s preferred customs plan has been ditched as unworkable


■ EU officials have warned May’s negotiator Oliver Robbins that they will embarrass her before the Tory party conference unless she solves the issue of Northern Ireland’s border by the end of the summer


■ The French president Emmanuel Macron snubbed the PM when she tried to strike a security deal with the EU at a recent summit


■ Remain-backing MPs plan to apply for judicial reviews of ministerial directives on Brexit and to use an obscure parliamentary device to force debates on aspects of the withdrawal bill to delay Brexit


■ Tory MPs who support Brexit are calling on party bosses to axe any colleagues who vote to stay in a customs union, saying they have broken manifesto pledges.


Put Gove in No 10, says Tory donor The Tory donor Crispin Odey has called for Michael Gove to take over as prime minister, claiming Theresa May “cannot carry Brexit through any more”.


Odey, a hedge fund manager, said Gove, the environment secretary, was “very aware he has to appeal not just to the wealthy, but also more broadly”.

Sounds a bit harsh but I guess it is better to be prepared.
 
So I just read on Spiegel Online that the British Justice Minister is proposing to use inmates to replace the workforce from Eastern Europe that is increasingly missing. What a trainwreck.
 
So I just read on Spiegel Online that the British Justice Minister is proposing to use inmates to replace the workforce from Eastern Europe that is increasingly missing. What a trainwreck.

It’s like they didn’t have a plan for it.
 
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