Economy 12 Years and $34 Billion Later, Canada's Trans Mountain Pipeline Expansion Is Set To Complete.

The Federal Court of Appeal has quashed the government's approvals to build the Trans Mountain expansion project:




Alberta Premier Rachel Notley speaks after the Federal Court of Appeal has quashed construction approvals to build the Trans Mountain pipeline expansion project during a news conference at the Alberta Legislature in Edmonton:




The Trans Mountain pipeline expansion is still critically important for Canada, says Finance Minister Bill Morneau:





Former Foreign Affairs Minister Peter MacKay on the court ruling on the Trans Mountain pipeline:




Conservative Leader Andrew Scheer reacts to the Trans Mountain pipeline decision:

 
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Summary of the fall-outs from the bombshell dropped yesterday by the Canadian Federal Court:

 
Do you think Alberta has the guts to shut off it's oil to B.C. like they threatened before?

I hope so, it seems like the kind of interesting thing that i’d Like to live through, but BC will survive as they will freely import by sea oil produced under far less stringent environmental and worker protection laws from countries with governments whose positions on nearly everything is directly contrary to every value that Province would claim to hold.
 
People have already died shipping the oil by rail, right? Wasn't there some nasty explosions up there?

The pipeline is so logical, and for numerous reasons. Canada, are you trying to get a little slice of Venezuela pie? Get your shit together.



A section of a town was absolutely levelled, and people died.

And more will die. And more spills will occur, and shipping by rail is a terrible plan on every front compared to pipeline, but the actual position of those opposing this are not doing so on a reasonable “minimal harm” position, but on a “zero use” poaition, which is clearly not a real thing, and supported by their hypocritical use of oil from other places.
 
CBC:

Trans Mountain court ruling a 'blow' to Trudeau's credibility, experts say

A federal court ruling suspending the expansion of the Trans Mountain project undermines the prime minister's reliability and underscores the missteps made by the Liberal government in its handling of the file, some experts say.

"It's a big blow to Justin Trudeau's credibility because he's said repeatedly this pipeline will be built," said UBC political science professor Kathryn Harrison, who studies climate and energy policy.


"Although this decision doesn't necessarily mean it won't be built, it sure casts a lot of doubt on the prime minister's certainty," she said.

Harrison said the ruling calls into question the wisdom of the government's decision in May to invest $4.5 billion in taxpayer funding to buy the existing pipeline and billions more to build a new pipeline for which the government doesn't have a valid permit.

The ruling reinforced the notion that Trudeau's government has tried to pretend "we can have it all," said Harrison.

"On the one hand, we can state our commitment to reconciliation with First Nations and on the other hand we can push through a pipeline over the objections of a very large number of First Nations along the route, apparently without fulfilling the government's duty to meaningful consultation," she said.

"There are all these contradictions in the Trudeau government's policies. And I think … they're coming home to roost."

Sunny Ways, indeed.
 
The Federal Court of Appeal has quashed the government's approvals to build the Trans Mountain expansion project:




Alberta Premier Rachel Notley speaks after the Federal Court of Appeal has quashed construction approvals to build the Trans Mountain pipeline expansion project during a news conference at the Alberta Legislature in Edmonton:




The Trans Mountain pipeline expansion is still critically important for Canada, says Finance Minister Bill Morneau:





Former Foreign Affairs Minister Peter MacKay on the court ruling on the Trans Mountain pipeline:




Conservative Leader Andrew Scheer reacts to the Trans Mountain pipeline decision:



Trudeau is screwing Canada over. He just cannot get a deal done that benefits Canada. He blew it with this pipeline and now the taxpayers will pay billions to foot the bill and he is in a terrible take it or leave it situation with NAFTA where Trump is bending him over because Trudeau was taking personal days, calling people racists at BBQs and attending gay parades while Trump was getting deals done. Sad.

Trudeau is going to need super-human levels of virtue signalling, platitudes, selfies, gay parades and blaming the conservatives to get back in favour with his declining number of supporters. It has been one blunder after another with this government.
 
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Thousands of Canadians will soon be out of a job, with billions in lost income for Canada. Sounds like a victory worth celebrating in BC!





 
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Trudeau is screwing Canada over. He just cannot get a deal done that benefits Canada. He blew it with this pipeline and now the taxpayers will pay billions to foot the bill and he is in a terrible take it or leave it situation with NAFTA where Trump is bending him over because Trudeau was taking personal days, calling people racists at BBQs and attending gay parades while Trump was getting deals done. Sad.

Trudeau is going to need super-human levels of virtue signalling, platitudes, selfies, gay parades and blaming the conservatives to get back in favour with his declining number of supporters. It has been one blunder after another with this government.
I find it odd that a court ruling is being attributed to Trudeau. Just like with the financial settlement case.

Edit: OK. it's not odd, it's bloody stupid.
 
Trudeau is screwing Canada over. He just cannot get a deal done that benefits Canada. He blew it with this pipeline and now the taxpayers will pay billions to foot the bill and he is in a terrible take it or leave it situation with NAFTA where Trump is bending him over because Trudeau was taking personal days, calling people racists at BBQs and attending gay parades while Trump was getting deals done. Sad.

Trudeau is going to need super-human levels of virtue signalling, platitudes, selfies, gay parades and blaming the conservatives to get back in favour with his declining number of supporters. It has been one blunder after another with this government.
This post is so bloody ridiculous, I really wonder what motivates you, but it's pathetic whatever the reason.
Please go ahead and tell me about Trump personally being there and negotiating with the Mexican contingent while Trudeau was campaigning. I'm sure he's personally involved in all the talks.

Canada has far more leverage over the US than this, as I demonstrated in that other thread I ran you out of.

And please tell me again why publicly calling a racist a racist is a bad thing.

Even better, just zip it if you can't stick to reality instead of making shit up or misrepresenting things. How many times am I going to be forced to expose your bullshit? You can't seem to make a single post without resorting to it.
 
Federal minister cautions Alberta against withdrawing from national climate plan
'We can't go back to the old days of ignoring the environment,' says Amarjeet Sohi
CBC News · Posted: Aug 31, 2018

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Alberta's decision to pull out of the national climate-change plan to protest a federal court ruling that quashed the Trans Mountain pipeline expansion will only serve to further endanger the project's regulatory future, says the federal resources minister.

Edmonton MP Amarjeet Sohi said the courts have made it clear — an effective climate strategy is critical for the approval of major natural resources projects under federal jurisdiction.

Alberta's withdrawal from the national climate change strategy may hurt the pipeline in the long run, he said.

"In order to build a large project such as a pipeline, you need to have a very effective climate action plan and you need to be mindful of your obligations to consult Indigenous peoples," Sohi said in an interview Friday with CBC Radio's Edmonton AM.

"Without those, you will not get a pipeline built."

Premier Rachel Notley has called on Ottawa to immediately take Thursday's Federal Court of Appeal ruling to the Supreme Court of Canada, and for Prime Minister Justin Trudeau to call an emergency session of Parliament to fix the process so the pipeline can be built.

The province will remain outside the federal climate plan until that happens, Notley said.

The Alberta premier made the stunning announcement in a Thursday evening news conference, hours after the Court of Appeal effectively suspended the contentious Trans Mountain expansion.

The appellate court cited lack of consultation with Indigenous nations and that the regulator, the National Energy Board, failed to address the impact on marine traffic.

Notley said she and Albertans are angry the province has been let down after doing everything right.

She said her NDP government remains committed to environmental stewardship, but won't sign on to a national strategy if it isn't able to get the pipeline built and get a "fair value for our resources."

She stood her ground while speaking Friday on Edmonton AM.

"We have said very clearly that responsible action on climate change must be paired with the kind of economic growth that makes sure that working people are able to prosper ... you can't do one without the other," Notley said.

"We're not prepared to go any further on this until the federal government figures out how to get this ridiculousness fixed."

Notley said it's become "virtually impossible" for Alberta to build a pipeline to tidewater.

"Our energy industry drives our national economy and it is utterly ridiculous that we can only sell it through the United States," she said. "It's just got to stop."

The premier said the court decision Thursday has no impact on Alberta's own climate change plan, or on the provincial carbon tax, but her declaration takes proposed federal carbon tax increases off the table.

'Fixing the broken system'

While Sohi said he empathizes with Notley's "frustration," her declaration ignores the increasing demands of the regulatory process.

The Trans Mountain proposal is the second major pipeline expansion that has been quashed by the courts, and Sohi fears federal judges won't look kindly upon Alberta's withdrawal from the national climate plan.

Sohi blamed the federal Conservatives, under Stephen Harper, for creating a flawed regulatory system that fails to fully account for the duty to consult and environmental risks.

"The courts have been very clear," said Sohi. "This is the second ruling that we've had from the federal court where decisions have been overturned.

"We can't go back to the old days of ignoring the environment or ignoring the consultations with Indigenous peoples.

"That is not how pipelines will be built in the future, and we need to make sure that we're fixing the broken system that we inherited."

Sohi said the federal government is reviewing the court decision and intends to push forward with the project.

"We cannot have a situation where we continue to rely on a single customer to whom we sell 99 per cent of our oil," he said "As an Albertan, I feel frustrated that Alberta's oil is landlocked.

"We are attempting to diversify our markets and yes, we need to do it the right way, but the courts have given us a path forward and we are going to follow that path forward."

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/edmonton/alberta-trans-mountain-pipeline-notley-sohi-1.4806281
 
'This really hurt': Trudeau tells Notley that Ottawa is seeking solutions on Trans Mountain project
Clare Clancy & Janet French | September 6, 2018

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Prime Minister Justin Trudeau had reassuring words for Albertans as he met with Premier Rachel Notley Wednesday to discuss the turbulent Trans Mountain pipeline expansion.

But while the two joined forces and promised to find a solution to the ongoing saga, Trudeau fell short of agreeing to the demands laid out by Notley following the recent court ruling that cast the project into doubt.

“Albertans were disappointed, as were many Canadians, with the decision. It was a hard blow to a province that has come through a difficult time,” said Trudeau during a brief photo opportunity with media ahead of the meeting. “This really hit hard.”

Last Thursday, the Federal Court of Appeal found fault with the National Energy Board review that Ottawa used to approve the pipeline expansion in 2016. The federal government also failed in its duty to engage in meaningful consultations with First Nations, said the written ruling.

The decision marked a triumph for Indigenous groups and environmentalists who opposed the project and spurred Kinder Morgan Canada Ltd. to halt construction-related activities to twin the existing pipeline from Strathcona County to Burnaby, B.C.

At the Hotel Macdonald, Trudeau and Notley shared a polite handshake and touted the project’s importance.

But Notley said the court ruling alone won’t lead to a solution.

“It’s probably not going to get us there,” she told reporters.

Last week, Notley spelled out three demands in light of the unexpected delay — an immediate appeal of the court ruling to the Supreme Court, a recall of Parliament to address the issue and better consultation with Indigenous groups.

On Wednesday, Trudeau didn’t specify whether Ottawa would accede to those demands and said his government is considering its options, including legislation and an appeal.

“We are also looking at what it would take to actually go through the steps that the court has laid out,” he told reporters at a morning news conference at NAIT.

“I understand how, after difficult years because of oil prices and the beginning of optimism about getting this important pipeline expansion built, this really hurt.”

Trudeau’s curated Edmonton tour included pit stops relevant to the oil and gas industry. At NAIT, he used a pipette while speaking with researchers about bitumen extraction processes before unveiling the school’s new Productivity and Innovation Centre.

Later he visited CanmetENERGY’s Devon Research Centre, a government facility working to develop cleaner oilsands processes and technology. He spoke to a researcher developing a potentially more efficient method to prepare oil for pipeline transport.

Last week, Notley pulled her support from Trudeau’s pan-Canadian climate change plan just hours after the court ruling was released.

“Without Alberta, that plan isn’t worth the paper it’s written on,” she told reporters at the time, adding the move sent a clear message to Ottawa to get its act together.

On Wednesday she wouldn’t specify what she thinks is the best move for the federal government now, but did say it has legislative powers it could use.

“We absolutely cannot be held hostage to a regulatory merry-go-round that never ends,” she said at the opening of a new K-9 school in Spruce Grove.

She said she wants to speak with Trudeau about the best way to fulfil the need for additional consultations while getting the people who are building the pipeline back to work.

Meaningful consultation with parties affected by the pipeline should accommodate their concerns, not give them veto power over the project, she said.

“I reject a scenario that has us talking until everybody says ‘yes.’ That’s not how it can work.”

In response to a question from media about what meaningful consultation would involve, Trudeau hinted at further discussions with Indigenous groups along the pipeline route.

“Are there proposals around shifting the route a bit, around mitigating possible impacts that do make it a better process?” he said.

Trudeau said the court ruling is about more than just one pipeline, and showed the need for better environmental assessments and Indigenous engagement. He also touted his record compared to Conservative governments.

“Can you imagine what the court ruling would have said if Stephen Harper had still been prime minister?” he said.

The Trans Mountain pipeline was at a dead-end until Ottawa stepped in, he said. “If that project expansion was still in private hands, that court of appeal ruling would have killed it.”

Both Trudeau and Notley repeated that they believe the expansion will get built.

The federal government’s $4.5-billion investment to purchase the existing Trans Mountain pipeline should give citizens confidence the government is committed to seeing the expansion completed, Notley said. Ottawa also committed to invest an additional $7.4 billion for the expansion.

Just 30 minutes after the court decision last week, Kinder Morgan shareholders voted 99 per cent in favour of the sale.

“We would like to see shovels in the ground as quickly as possible,” Trudeau said.

https://edmontonjournal.com/news/lo...ourt-deals-setback-to-trans-mountain-pipeline
 
No level of “consultation” will be enough unless their is a fully articulated explanation of what constitutes the fulfilment of that duty.

I would not be shocked if Determining that will like years. If it becomes tied into every other “indigenous” issue it’s a hole that will never be dig out of, and any other result will be seen as the government’s abandoning of it’s promises to improve relations with these populations.
 
How much more can Canadians ask Alberta to take?
By Rex Murphy | August 31, 2018



If cars and trains and planes could run on green sanctimony, in the age of Justin Trudeau, Canada would be Kuwait. But of course they don’t. And in Save the Auto Pact week, which is how I would characterize Chrystia Freeland’s frantic return from Europe and Ukraine to Washington, to answer Mr. Trump’s summons and catch up with her Mexican “partners,” who would have guessed that a federal court would shoot a thunderbolt at the industry that allows all those cars to do what cars do in the first place?

Poor battered Fort McMurray — what’s left for them after fire, flood, world prices and a court’s curt quash? A plague of frogs and locusts and perhaps an eclipse of the sun, just for variety.

This careless government has careened from one bungle and self-manufactured crisis to another. From India, to Saudi Arabia, to Washington this week, it’s either catch-up, incompetence or peacock risibility. And as Ms. Freeland and her team pulled sophomore “all-nighters” to save free trade and appease the angry god in the White House, dear Alberta learned there was no way they will be able to trade their oil whatever way NAFTA goes.

For the pipeline, the pipeline we had to buy because Canadians didn’t support it correctly in the first place, is now on hold, which is Liberalese for “you will not see this in your lifetime.” Finance Minister Bill Morneau extended the novel explanation that the decision was a good thing, which raised questions on just which asteroid he was reporting from. Catherine McKenna, minister of climate change, still on the straw crusade, had less or nothing to say, apart from a dart at Doug Ford — which is her latest Twitter hobby — even as a much disappointed Rachel Notley (finally) in principle abandoned co-operation with federal carbon plans.

Ms. Freeland may or may not save the Canadian bacon in Washington — it’s unclear as I write. But the mess that has fallen on Canadian politics, and provincial relations, emphatically those with Alberta, though other provinces are closely involved, as a result of the guillotining of the Trans Mountain pipeline, will not swiftly or easily be repaired. It is a massive fail. The strains and contests it will inspire within this happy Confederation will be compelling as any distempers with deal-maker Trump.

How was it then, that Alberta got shafted once again? And how many of the “slings and arrows of outrageous” greenism can or will Alberta take?

To begin at the beginning, you cannot placate the implacable. The dynamic between those who want an oil and gas industry, and the groups ideologically possessed to oppose one, is that the latter have one position and one position only: to end oil and gas in Canada. Whenever greens or their myriad fronts offer a mid-point position, a compromise, it is merely mouth-work, a moving of the lips for tactical reasons or spurious manoeuvre.

Those who harbour (or once did — Rachel Notley) the idea that there is a middle ground with green and global warming totalism, their dead-ender commitment to world-scale, Paris-stamped, UN-mustered global greenism — have simply not been watching or listening. Green environmentalism is fundamentalist. The government in Ottawa, both by disposition and ideologically, is far more to the green side of the world than it is or ever will be to its own and Alberta’s oil and gas industry. Paris before Calgary, “as it was in the beginning, is now, and ever shall be.”

From the first day in office, to the present minute, when has there been just one full speech in any national or international forum when Mr. Trudeau, with that great dramatic gravity of his, made the real case for Canada’s oil and gas? Where have been the delegations led by him to showcase the Fort McMurray oil sands, to highlight the advanced technology, praise the engineering, sit down with the workers, meet the municipal leaders? In all the causes he really supports, he leads the parade and adds the precious glitter of his presence.

The consequence of all this nothing — nothing is a force — is that the demonstrations and protests and international gang-ups on Fort McMurray and the oilsands have been unanswered. That an atmosphere has been produced in which the case for Alberta has to be made, every time afresh, and from an established negative baseline. The “antis” have had the stage unopposed, indeed given tacit sanction, the negatives allowed to snowball. Indigenous opposition blares in every press report. Indigenous support an afterthought and a whisper.

These are the atmospherics in which decisions are made: a structured and long-nourished hostility toward the idea of oil and gas energy; an unexamined moral supremacy afforded opposition to energy projects; an eagerness to display concert with those “fighting” for Nature and all her handiworks; an embedded predisposing to overlook the “mundane” concern for jobs and those who haven’t got them; a total indisposition to inquire into either the funding or motivation of organizations whose raison d’etre is protest and obstruction coupled with an overwhelming disposition to see only greed and rapacity on the industry side. This in the mindset, the mentality, in which current progressive thought is fixed, and it is in the ascendant. It is, most fatally, the mindset of the Trudeau government, whose concern for its environmentalist credentials and its thirst for the admiration of global progressive voices is its deepest political emotion.

What chance has a hinterland town like Fort McMurray against this array? Those who think that “environmental review” is about reviewing the environment have lost the plot. In our new green world the purpose of environmental review is to extend the time and space for opposition to invent new objections, and invite fresh protests. The process, as it is lovingly called, is always more important than the project. The thing reviewed is always less significant than the review itself.

The infatuation with process and the counterfeit search for social licence — the theatre of moralist environmentalism — will always trump the plain common sense of the demands of a purposeful national economy. It will always give glancing afterthought to the common experience of people working or looking to do so, to projects that vitalize communities, and keep alive the spirit of individual and collective enterprise that has always attended “doing an honest day’s work for an honest dollar.”

Thus this week’s court decision was neither singular nor defining. It was just one more stammer in a long pattern of stammering, the latest rock on the road, one fortified by the mentality that governs the long-prevalent bias against this one industry, the dismissal of “Albertan” concerns as always secondary to more “principled” ones, and just another thread in an extremely well-woven tapestry.

Underwriting this suffocating octopus of intervention and delay is the famous axiom uttered by a yet-to-be prime minister: “Governments can grant permits; only communities can grant permission.” That line, like so many other of his mini-thoughts on complex issues, has brought a harvest of faction, and offers a straight line to the latest bad news for Alberta this week.

https://nationalpost.com/opinion/rex-murphy-how-much-more-can-canadians-ask-alberta-to-take
 
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