Buakaw skin color

[SRN]

A dark skinned guy can get a tan too, you know? It's not just for whites.

 

[Yodsanan]

I'm sure i'm not the only

i'm sure i'm not the only one who thinks this

On a more serious note. there are tons of different ethnicities throughout asia, especially thailand is super mixed. Buakaw is probably of Khmer descent like many people in Surin, and they tend to be darker skinned.

 

[nino]

On a more serious note. there are tons of different ethnicities throughout asia, especially thailand is super mixed. Buakaw is probably of Khmer descent like many people in Surin, and they tend to be darker skinned.

Thank you for ur serious answer

 

[SuperLuigi]

On a more serious note. there are tons of different ethnicities throughout asia, especially thailand is super mixed. Buakaw is probably of Khmer descent like many people in Surin, and they tend to be darker skinned.

Someone was saying that he is Kui/Gui descent and that when he first came to Bangkok he could barely speak Thai. It was from a thread years ago.

 

[Yodsanan]

Someone was saying that he is Kui/Gui descent and that when he first came to Bangkok he could barely speak Thai. It was from a thread years ago.

Oh you're right. was going after many cambodians that said he's Khmer, but I guess they claim every dark skinned thai as khmer.

 

[Yodsanan]

is the fb post showing or is sherdog fucking up?

 

[oyvindt]

Someone was saying that he is Kui/Gui descent and that when he first came to Bangkok he could barely speak Thai. It was from a thread years ago.

his manager mentioned something similar last year but i don't remember.
he posted a video of buakaw speaking a different language/dialect with some very old lady in his village in surin and his thai fans were asking what he was saying as they couldn't understand a word.

 

[Cath32017]

He is Kui/Kuy descent, so he's an ethnic minority of Thailand whose ancestors have lived in Thailand, Laos, and Cambodia for thousands of years. (Majority now reside in Thailand) The ethnic language of this group is a Mon-Khmer language, thus it is related to Khmer, so this may be why many claim Khmer as his descent. The majority of SE Asians consider this group as the aboriginal inhabitants of the region straddling three different countries, aka "ancient Khmer," "jungle Khmer people." https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kuy_people

I believe his fb page also had this information posted back in 2015, confirming his ethnicity to this group.

I don't know what language he speaks at home, but he could be bi or trilingual. Wonder if he can even speak the aboriginal Khmer related language of his ethnic group?

 

[Yodsanan]

guess the link I posted is not showing. that's from the banchamek facebook page from 2015:

Buakaw's ethnic group - Suay, also called Kui, Kuy or Kuoy

In Thailand, no other ethnic group has such a long and strong relationship with elephants as the KUI people. Since the dawn of history, they have lived in the territory where the southern part of today’s northeastern Thailand (called ISSAN) meets northen Cambodia and southern Laos. For centuries they were the dominant settlers of the region. Their ancestors settled in the area several thousand years BC, well before the first Tai-speaking people arrived in Southeast Asia and well before Thai people established their first kingdom at Sukhothai in the thirteenth century AD.
The KUI language is an oral language and has no script. Therefore there are no historical records. All historical events have to be transmitted by month from generation to generation.

Today, about 200,000 KUI live in Thailand. Though the KUI have adopted many features from their Thai , Lao and Khmer neighbors , they have also preserved many of their traditions and customs. At home they speak a Katuic dialect of the Mon-Khmer language group. They belong to several subgroups, such as the M’ai, Yor, Ml’oa, Hot and Kandra, all distinguished by their different dialects. Today they are of course bilingual or even trilingual, speaking, besides their mother tongue, also the Thai and Lao language. They call themselves KUI, meaning men. They pronounce the “K” in their group’s name with a hard “G”.
The Thai, however , call the KUI people Souai (or Suei or Suai). The reason for this designation is that in the early Siamese armies the lowest military rank was the souai. The people of this rank were Khas or ethnic Mon-Khmer-speaking people from northeastern Thailand and Laos, including So and Kaleung and also many ethnic KUI from the area of today’s southern ISSAN region. The people in the rank of souai served as virtual slaves and had to perform the most lowly work and tasks that no Siamese would deign to undertake. Within the rank of souai there were several subdivisions, to each of which was allocated a specific task. A very important subdivision within the souai rank was the taponje, which had the responsibility to cut the grass to be fed to the army’s elephants. Most people of this subdivision were ethnic KUI people and even since that time the Thai people have called the KUI people, through the association with their military souai rank, Souai.

The KUI have one of the longest traditions as elephant keepers in Thailand. It is possible , although there is no proof, that the KUI may have domesticated elephants as early as 1000 BC. KUI mahouts were also very important elephant trainers in the elephant stables of the Siam aristocracy and to this day KUI mahouts are the keepers of the Royal White Elephants. The KUI are considered the most skilled mahouts in Thailand and regarded by other elephant-keeping ethnic groups as very gentle trainers. Kui mahouts usually did not work in the logging industry and had uses for their animals that were less stressful. The exceptions are those Kui who take their elephants to the congested streets of Bangkok for begging.

The KUI have conserved more ancient elephant traditions than any other group in Southeast Asia. And many adult KUI mahouts still follow those customs. The KUI are very spiritual people who want not only to be in harmony with Buddhist principles but also to have a good relationship with the spirits of the forests, including the spirits associated with elephants.
Today, most KUI elephant keepers live in Surin province, the predominant elephant province of Thailand. It is said that during the region of King Mongkut (Rama IV; 1851-1868) a white elephant disappeared from the royal stables. A group of KUI elephant catchers finally manage to recapture the white elephant and brought it back to Bangkok. King Mongkut was so pleased with the return of his beloved animal that he gave the leader of the hunt the title “PHRA SURIN” and established the independent province of Surin for him as governor.

In ancient times, Kui’s economy was centered on iron mining and iron making. Many artifacts excavated from the area proved that the Kui were skilled iron miners and excellent iron and bronze smiths. The quality of Kui’s fine workmanship was appreciated by the kings of the Khmer empire. Further, the Kui are wet rice agriculturalists with extensive paddies around their villages and breed a great number of domesticated animals such as buffaloes, cows, goats, pigs, chicken and ducks.
For centuries, the Kui followed an elephant-capturing tradition characterized by the use of mela-shikar, a wide range of shared rites, shared taboos and the use of a special language –the “forest spirit language”—when capturing wild elephants.

The training of the captured elephants was basic and their training methods lacked firm routine. The Kui kept khoonkie elephants for their own use and they were not very interested in training captured wild elephants other than to break their will and walk them back home.

The reason that the Kui were never masters in the training of elephants is that they had little use for trained elephants, except for khoonkie elephants. Traditionally , they never used them in work processes , such as logging teak wood or as beasts for burden for transporting people and goods over vast distances, as was the practice among other ethnic groups. For centuries elephants were the only means of transportation in Thailand’s northeast and in adjacent Laos and Cambodia during the rainy seasons.
But the KUI people never traveled far from home , except to capture elephants.

Since the total deforestation of their habitat ,the economic importance of elephant hunting has decreased. The KUI say that they captured the last wild elephant in Surin province in 1961.

The KUI , like almost all other ethnic groups of the region , are very spirit-conscious people. Though they adopted Buddhism from the Khmers several centuries ago, they also believe in the existence of a great array of spirits in their surroundings , such as the guardian spirit, the spirit of the tree, forest , mountain, water and earth , to name only a few. They also venerate the spirits of their ancestors (phi paw and phi mae). Not only do the Kui regard their elephants—called a giaong in the Kui language—as member of the family but they also honor and venerate the phi pakham, the lasso or rope with which they capture wild elephants.

The most important celebration to honor the phi pakham is the annual Elephant Festival –called na a giaong in Kui language—which is held in Surin in the third weekend in November.

Since ancient times the mahout has held a high status in Kui society. All Kui mahouts are proud of their jobs and love their elephants.

 

[oyvindt]

guess the link I posted is not showing. that's from the banchamek facebook page from 2015:

yes thanks.
it's showing only now for me and that's what i was ref to.

 

[SuperLuigi]

guess the link I posted is not showing. that's from the banchamek facebook page from 2015:

I cant see any of the facebook links in the Thailand thread but I can see the link you posted here perfectly for some reason.

 

[JkMMA]

South East Asians r usually tan, but buakaw is extra dark tan because it's always sunny in Thailand so I'm guessing they train outside all day. Not only that, I've heard he grew up in a farm.

 

[KBE6EKCTAH_CCP]

Well I just learned something. Apparently Tony Jaa is Kuy as well.

As someone who doesn't know anything about Thailand, I have often noticed that Thais look very, very diverse to me.

I find that say, Sangmanee, Buakaw, Saeksan, Sam-A and Bangpleenoi don't look at all as is they come from the same country.

 

[Snubnoze707]

I had some random guy try to tell me about Tony Jaa fighting some Chinese guy and knocking him out to use as evidence of Muay Thai's supperiority. I quickly cut him off with "that shits fake" and he attempted to argue that Tony Jaa was a champion fighting in Thailand citing his Thai girlfriend (with three kids that weren't his) as reference for his knowledge. I swiftly destroyed him with a @Cocakillbana list of Thai fighter names and he immediately conceded.

 

[Joe Buck]

I saw a sparring video between Buakaw and Simon Marcus, but Buakaw is darker than Marcus. How?

Maybe because he is asian. No?

 

[Joe Buck]

First of all, Thai is huge cultural, spread from East India, South China, South East Asia.


Back in the days,

FUNAN (Thailand) was an ancient multi ethnic country. Chinese describe them as People that have dark skin as well.

Siam (Thailand) was a multi ethnic country also.

Modern day, Thailand is still a multi ethnic country, but Thai from north of Thailand and South China are way more represented.

 

[AbeRudder]

I had some random guy try to tell me about Tony Jaa fighting some Chinese guy and knocking him out to use as evidence of Muay Thai's supperiority. I quickly cut him off with "that shits fake" and he attempted to argue that Tony Jaa was a champion fighting in Thailand citing his Thai girlfriend (with three kids that weren't his) as reference for his knowledge. I swiftly destroyed him with a @Cocakillbana list of Thai fighter names and he immediately conceded.

Nah bro tony is just that good, he also cross trained in kung fu for ong bak 2. Somrak tried to fuck with Jet Li and got embarrassed, Jet's movement was simply too much. There are levels to this shit.

 

[Sanchoy]

Him Thai? Him good! >somrak ok

 

[bad seed]

how is Masato darker than Andre Ward?

 

[SuperLuigi]

Wasn't there a conspiracy theory going around that Masato was Thai or half Thai? lol