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Too much running takes its toll on joints
Too much running takes its toll on joints
Can running be replaced by a different type of cardio?
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conor mcgregor was doing all that stupid shit and he gassed out so fast it was a shame. Just run, for those of you complaining about joint problems, this is going to sound harsh but maybe you shouldn't even train because everything you do comes at a price. One thing I notice is that the younger people seem to injure a lot easier, whether that's due to low pain tolerance or some other issue such as weak tendons and bones I have no clue but it's wierd seeing kids run around in ice packs and crutches playing non-contact sports. As I've said, I've never had problems from running, if anything, all the training, be it running, hitting/kicking the bag, it has just seemed to toughen most of my bones and ligaments, i've taken a lot of nasty falls the kind where I get up and look for bones to be sticking out and i'm fine five minutes later. Some people would end up in the er with some of the spills i've taken.
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I did a ten hour grueling move last sunday, the man who i was helping said he had two dislocated knees from soccer, he seemed fine lifting all that furnitrue, he had surgery on his knees some time ago. I thought dislocated knees were the type of shit mma guys had, doesn't look easy to come back from but he didn't have any problem, he did mention pain when the weather changes but I actually always had that even before I had any injuries.yea i have 5 fingers shoes but it doesnt work for me,i dont feel comfortable at all,i need quality shoes for running(i payed for them 100 euros), it doesnt hurt me when i run at all,and i dont run on my heels,i dont know what idiot doesthe bad thing is when the weather changes i go nuts as hell,for some reason my knees hurt as hell,also with fucking soccer,but when i spar i can go 12 rounds no problem,not once did my knees hurt
also i do a lot of stability boards and proprioceptive training and that helped me a lot,also the gym(everything except the squat),and i take meds as well
i cant fucking imagine how can someone like shogun still fight with that kind of injured knees
ill check out your vids,but man i have seen and read tons of shit regarding knee injuries and joint problems
i know my cartillages wont ever heal,but i went to 3 ortopedist specialist and all said the same,that every sports person be amateur or profesional have knee problems at 29-30(im 28),being minor or major,on the last check up,i was worried that will have to quit boxing,and i was devasted,until doctor said that im stupid(fuck u doc) and that if its not hurting me as hell everytime i do something,then im alright,i will only have to go in 10-15 years do to arthroscopy and to even the surfaces
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Biking is a great choice for bad knees
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Conor will gas regardless. Everyone likes to blame it on him not running when in reality its much more than that.
Whats his rhr? Whats his heart rate recovery after high intensity session? Did he peak and taper off? Is he pacing himself? Did he even do enough steady state? Who is strength and conditioning coach? How reputable are they?
I was soley going off principles of Joel Jamieson who's demetrious's strength and conditioning coach.
Running isnt the be all or end all. At the end of the day it depends on the context of situation. If your goal is to fight, and you cannot run or dont want to run, then thats fine, have another supplement or keep it sport specific and in the appropriate heart rate ranges given adaptation you're trying obtain that given moment. Most importantly aslong the primary conditioning is the actual sport itself.
There's plenty of boxers who dont run and just keep it sport specific
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People ask this question all the time, if i can't do this and that, what can i do to replace it, well what do you do? they say Boxing.
The answer is Box longer rounds, do sparring even longer, first if your not kickboxing or doing MMA you don't need the legs like in Basketball and MMA also kickboxing, because in those sports you need your legs to hold up, but in boxing not so much, except for boxing like Muhammad Ali, then you need to Shadow box more with more movement and someone chasing you in the ring.
If your kickboxing, kick box more, if your doing MMA, roll longer and kick box longer.
Do the sport longer your trying to master and harder then before.
Your not running a marathon or doing Olympic track and field, your Boxing, so do the sport your body needs to get better at and leave the extra running to Olympic athletes, and leave the swimming to the swimmers, your a Boxer then Box and get better at what your in love with and leave everything else to the other athletes in their sports.
You don't see swimmers boxing and track and field boxing, because their to busy trying to master and get better at their own sports and don't have time trying out Boxing because it doesn't have anything to do with swimming.
You have people swimming and doing all this other crazy training camp stuff and the one thing there training for, their not mastering that sport, like Joshua he's in the swimming pool doing laps and i am asking, are you an Olympic swimmer or and professional Boxer because in the ring there's no water, you should be Boxing more rounds and doing more Boxing related exercise and conditioning and working on your craft, to actually get better at it.
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Your 100% correct.
Connor is gassing because he's not doing the Sport he's training for longer and harder and is to busy trying to life tires and swimming, when he should be doing 5, ten minute rounds doing MMA and kickboxing also Boxing and jujitsu or judi rolling for hours and strength training actually related to his sport like super set push ups and pull ups super set weight training and Isometric exercise and leave the swimming to the swimmers.
A swimmer spends hours at the pool swimming and not one hour swimming and an hour Boxing and then lifting tires or moving bags of bricks around, a swimmer is trying to get better at swimming because that's the sport they are training for, everything else they do is only related to swimming.
Connor is doing everything else except actually doing the sports he's training for and that's MMA kickboxing jujitsu and other martial arts and that's his problem.
My proof Floyd Mayweather never ever had any problem gassing, or even looking gassed, or spent, because he's putting in hours of constant gym work, actually Boxing and sparring, 12 rounds strait, with 4 different fresh sparring partners and doing his abdominal exercise, the correct way with intensity and getting the correct results and doing his strength program that's actually related to his Boxing, but Boxing and even more Boxing hours and hours of Boxing.
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Who's Joel I've probably met him not that that means anything one way or other. Edit Ya I remember him looked up a pic . Don't know if he's for real or not all I recall is that he had a gym a few doors down from my old mma gym and was ironically present the last time our gym owner tried to con me into fighting.
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Old timey boxers like Jack Dempsey did wrestling. It not only does cardio but builds strength.
Actually Michael Phelps added boxing to his training regimen. So did the tennis player Andy Murray.
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I'm not posting for the benefit of the thread starter because I'm assuming that he has in someway answered this question after 8 years.
However,
It is difficult to replace running with other cardio. You can, but roadwork is almost synonymous with boxing. Sugar Ray Leonard credits his roadwork for his success, even at the Olympics, he said his roadwork is what got him an edge on the competition.
Roadwork is not simply running. You are working boxing specific movements, and footwork to the point of not having to consciously think about it. You're also using a large percentage of your max heart rate, especially if you add in shadowboxing and interval work.
Swimming, and cycling could work for supplemental work outside of the gym. I think running is the most sport specific supplemental cardio training you can do for boxing.
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It is difficult to replace running with other cardio. You can, but roadwork is almost synonymous with boxing. Sugar Ray Leonard credits his roadwork for his success, even at the Olympics, he said his roadwork is what got him an edge on the competition.
Roadwork is not simply running. You are working boxing specific movements, and footwork to the point of not having to consciously think about it. You're also using a large percentage of your max heart rate, especially if you add in shadowboxing and interval work.
Swimming, and cycling could work for supplemental work outside of the gym. I think running is the most sport specific supplemental cardio training you can do for boxing.
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Exactly, when peaking for the actual sport itself, primarily nothing beats doing the sport itself to get the necessary adaptations for the compeition.
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Depending on were they are at with their training, lets say if they are peaking for a competition,
Im willing to be they' added it to supplement on top of their sport to give them the additional hours needed to add to their overall conditioning. One of the other reasons is that it also helps prevent staleness or monotonous training to their military style 2-3x a day 6x a week schedule.
Offseason or when competition isnt on their schedule, sure its a good way psychologicially to take a break from their sport while also maintaining their fitness
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Not sure if it has been mentioned, but Sergio Martinez was a great champ with amazing cardio. He mostly rode his bike for cardio (since he had a cycling background). He also had a background in soccer prior to cycling IIRC, so that also gave him a solid base.
