Can we please stop pretending there is such a thing as a "UFC title"?

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  1. Get_that_yayo

    Get_that_yayo Brown Belt

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    Full Contact Fighter article from 2004.

    BJ Penn sued to get his "title" back from the UFC in 2004, and lost the lawsuit because the "title" is just a marketing gimmick. Its a trophy that the UFC creates and can take away. By White's own words the "title" is "purely ceremonial" There are no sanctioning bodies forcing you to defend the belt, no set rules on what keeps you champion or can get you stripped...nothing. Under any circumstance the UFC could award or strip the "title" in question to anyone they feel like. Why are we even discussing this "purely ceremonial" trophy if multiple guys won't even defend it?
     
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    Ok, we'll stop for you TS.
     
  3. tehJameson

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    How about no. Ceremonial or not it raises the stakes and gives fighters more to fight for.
     
  4. Frankie Baby!

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    Can we please stop pretending that 'How I Met Your Mother' isn't the greatest show of all time?
     
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    If fighters get paid more for having one it matters to them. If it matters to them and they all want one, it means that in theory the best of them should have one. If the best of them have titles, then the titles are a pretty good way of determining who the best fighter in each weightclass is.

    So if you care about who the best fighter is, it matters.
     
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  7. Ever Watchful

    Ever Watchful There is evil there that does not sleep Platinum Member

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    People care about the gimmick, so they won't be shutting up about it any time soon.
     
  8. Franc Mittelo

    Franc Mittelo Banned Banned

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    Something can still be bullshit, even though people have been convinced to risk their lives for it. There is no mutual exclusivity.

    We should all know the UFC title is bullshit. I mean, Eddie Alvarez was a champion with a 3-1 record. Max and Tony had to fight twice as many times (and win) before they were given the opportunity.

    So, not every UFC champion is worth his weight in gold, that is strong evidence of a bullshit commodity.
     
  9. NoContest

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    The belt is a construct, a spook, a concept in our minds that's only kept alive by our belief in it.

    Like money, private property, the state, the law, hierarchy.

    I take UFC belts more seriously than those other things though.
     
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    Belts depending on the division context have importance but some guys buy too much into thinking it means the holder is the best of the division - sometimes he is, sometimes not.
     
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    Now a 125 lb championship bout with a hack like Paige Van Zant makes more sense
     
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    It's just an ugly piece of jewelry that is suppose to represent the current best fighter in the world who consistently fights top contenders in the division. Nowadays, unfortunately, it is just an ugly piece of jewelry.
     
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    Alvarez was 28-4 ...UFC recognises fights that take place outside their trademark octagon, and rightfully so.
     
  14. IBeLurkin

    IBeLurkin I see you've come to this battle of wits unarmed

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    It's a "ceremonial" title representing the best fighter in the UFC in that division. The holder of that title (almost) always faces the top contenders the UFC has to offer.

    Considering the UFC has the best fighters, I'd say it's working fine.
     
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    Askren beats Woodley
     
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    Yeah we should have more threads discussing something real like p4p, and goat.
     
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    I don't understand TS' point, but I've been telling you guys for years, the belt is a gimmick. Ranking are story lines.

    It's all about fighter value. The sport is not what most of you pretend it is.
     
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    Just a ceremonial trophy....
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