China's Xinjiang region legalizes Muslim concentration camps to educate and transform extremists

[TheGreatA]

Western countries' stats on such matters are relatively honest. Can anyone say the same thing about China?

Their incarceration rate is still not small by any means (an estimated 160 out of 100,000) when taking into account the people included in these "re-education camps". By comparison my country has 52 people incarcerated out of 100,000 people.

It's just that America's incarceration rate sits at an absurd 650 per every 100,000 citizens. If China were locking people up at that rate, they would have around or over 10 million prisoners (which would be twice the population of my country).

 

[bushman505]

What about you reply to this post I already qouted you in?



It has nothing to do with being liberal or conservative.

I have absolutely zero reasons to believe anybody in this thread has a better idea of what’s going on than the Chinese. Not saying I trust the Chinese government but I am saying nobody here in this thread has a clue other than typical reactionary bs.

 

[bushman505]

You won't find me agreeing on how America treats their prisoners (not to mention the private prisons) is a good thing. I find it abhorrent, and one could argue that at least in the 3rd world prisons the prisoners can at least "socialise" with other prisoners than being locked up in a small room confined to a complete solitary existence is a better alternative.

Like some of those 3rd world countries where you don’t eat unless somebody rings you food from the outside and people starve to death daily. Sounds soooo much better.

 

[all caps]

I have absolutely zero reasons to believe anybody in this thread has a better idea of what’s going on than the Chinese. Not saying I trust the Chinese government but I am saying nobody here in this thread has a clue other than typical reactionary bs.

You are shilling for a government doing whatever they want to normal people. No matter who those people are, do you see the problem?

 

[Sano]

I have absolutely zero reasons to believe anybody in this thread has a better idea of what’s going on than the Chinese. Not saying I trust the Chinese government but I am saying nobody here in this thread has a clue other than typical reactionary bs.

Again. 1) Do you believe that the 1 million of Urighurs and Kazhaks put in concentration camps during the last 12 months are extremists/terrorists? 2) Are you a free speech absolutist?

 

[bushman505]

You are shilling for a government doing whatever they want to normal people. No matter who those people are, do you see the problem?

Nope, I’m just not mindlessly arguing with everything I see on the internet like you and most others here.

 

[MicroBrew]

Their incarceration rate is still not small by any means (an estimated 160 out of 100,000) when taking into account the people included in these "re-education camps". By comparison my country has 52 people incarcerated out of 100,000 people.

It's just that America's incarceration rate sits at an absurd 650 per every 100,000 citizens. If China were locking people up at that rate, they would have around or over 10 million prisoners (which would be twice the population of my country).

I just take their claimed numbers with a grain of salt, because of the secretive and authoritarian nature of the Chinese regime.

 

[Orgasmo]

Yeah, Turkey and Muslim countries streets are littered with the blood of western tourists cause they're not Muslims, mhm.
Brilliant logic there mate. Also nice insult, throwing the usual pedophile argument and that Muslims worship a man and not a God. You sure do know what you're talking about. Can I subscribe to your newsletter? Which one is it? Religionofpeace, AnsweringIslam or Jihadwatch? Or do you get it from one of the many brilliant youtubers?

Egypt treats their tourist well too, but does that mean it's not a shithole? Fun fact: you get treated well when you're a spending tourist. Sounds amazing right? Now try to challenge the religious institutions and see how fast you end up getting tortured in prison.

Muslims believe that Muhammad was the perfect human being as he was the prophet of Allah. As such, his actions and thoughts are to be emulated. Don't know about you fools, but I can't find the appetite to accept pedophilia, slavery, forced conversions and mass killings to be examples of a role model.

 

[TheGreatA]

I just take their claimed numbers with a grain of salt, because of the secretive and authoritarian nature of the Chinese regime.

You could probably add a few million there, but their incarceration rates would still be lower than America's.

Part of that is probably because China hasn't yet been able to whip itself in prime totalitarian shape, though. I would expect the numbers to increase once they perfect their "surveillance state".

 

[Orgasmo]

You could probably add a few million there, but their incarceration rates would still be lower than America's.

Part of that is probably because China hasn't yet been able to whip itself in prime totalitarian shape, though. I would expect the numbers to increase once they perfect their "surveillance state".

Or incarceration rate could go down from a drop in crime and dissident activities because the population would be scared shitless.

 

[TheGreatA]

Or incarceration rate could go down from a drop in crime and dissident activities because the population would be scared shitless.

Eventually it might. But I imagine that in the beginning, you'd see a lot more arrests due to more and more people getting caught for mundane crimes that previously never saw daylight.

From what I know the Chinese youth smoke cannabis increasingly frequently, but not once the government has its say.

 

[Limbo Pete]

Concentration camps are bad mmmmkay

 

[bushman505]

Again. 1) Do you believe that the 1 million of Urighurs and Kazhaks put in concentration camps during the last 12 months are extremists/terrorists? 2) Are you a free speech absolutist?

If the government deems them to be extremists and I have no evidence otherwise then why should I argue against it?

 

[Culombo]

Stormfront I lurke there from time to time

 

[bushman505]

Again. 1) Do you believe that the 1 million of Urighurs and Kazhaks put in concentration camps during the last 12 months are extremists/terrorists? 2) Are you a free speech absolutist?

I do t believe they are or aren’t, I have zero inside information or details to answer that question.

Free speech absolutist, yes I am but free speech dosent protect actions and plots. If there were Muslims in the USA just “speaking” about carrying out atrocities (which obviously there are) then I’d be all for locking them up as well.

Sorry man, I have absolutely no issue with countries cracking down on radical Islam there’s a lot of different ways to skin a cat and I see no obvious evidence that what China is doing is wrong, not saying it’s right but there is not enough info to condemn it unless you’re a limp wristed liberal piece of shit.

 

[Ruprecht]

The thread title says "extremists". It is not difficult to understand why many people might not have too much sympathy for them. There are, at the end of the day, people who have lost people that they knew as a result of such extremists, and people who have even fought against them in war.

Seeing one big bad (China) taking on another big bad (jihadists), brings a smile to the face of people who have no love for either.

However, the angle here is whether these people are truly extremists, or just people who practise their religion in a more fundamental (yet non-violent) manner. That's something which I would question due to China being involved.

We all know that the notion of "being extreme" is quite different in China, than here in the West. Wearing a different color shirt might be seen as being too radical.

They also use the term "extremists" for Falun Gong, Christian House Churches and the Dalai Lama.
No doubt Tim is a threat (formerly ETIM), but if the numbers being reported are even remotely true that's not who's being interned.

 

[Kframe]

You are a halfwit...do you even know what countries are located on China's boarder? Do you actually think Mongolia can stop China from shoving people out? LOL...god damn bro, the stupid is awe inspiring.

Yes the stupidity you are displaying is truly awe-inspiring.

 

[EradiatedHaggis]

Yes the stupidity you are displaying is truly awe-inspiring.

Says the person that believes Mongolia can prevent China from doing anything...lol...

 

[NoSmilez]

Suppose say Hawaii decides to secede; what do you think the US govt will do?

 

[Islam Imamate]

You'd think mass incarceration in reeducation camps is something we could all agree is wrong but sadly I guess not. A lot of folks revealed themselves to be amoral scumbags ITT, we even have one halfwit trying to spin this into an anti-Bernie angle.