No you/they haven't. This thread started off with you linking an article by a fitness consultant describing what "really" causes atherosclerosis. Among other things, he claims no association exists between serum LDL levels and atherosclerosis. He doesn't know what he's talking about, and if you did, you wouldn't have ever posted that.
You could pick any number of details out of the links I posted and take issue with them. I would, too. As I specifically said to you in another thread days ago,
I believe there is a
weak association between high LDL and CVD. But high LDL can mean different things, depending on what types of LDL we're talking about, and what the other conditions in the body are.
All of this misses the big picture. Why did I post that link? Several reasons:
-To get people away from the "bacon grease congealing in pan" idea of atherosclerosis
-To remind people that cholesterol actually has important functions in our bodies
-To get people thinking about what
types of cholesterol are problematic--yes, LDL, but more specifically, VLDL.
-Under what conditions that cholesterol is problematic
-To introduce the idea of epithelial injury, with regards to plaque formation.
-To provoke discussion about oxidation and inflammation, as it relates to these matters.
For those purposes, the first article is a great starting point.
Do I agree with everything, that every author says, and the way they say it, in every link I posted? Of course not. But you're missing the forest for the trees.
Finally, to keep coming back to that article, one out of 15 or so links, is to straw-man my argument. Why not take issue with any of the stuff there that was the work of doctors? Such links account for about half of the total.