Chris Weidman Had The Perfect Chance To Be The Undisputed GOAT

[TheRassler]

Undisputed Fluke King

 

[Sapp]

So you're saying he could have been GOAT if he'd gone up two weight classes and thrashed their dominant champions? Who would have thought?

 

[thelittleman]

Only if he never threw that kick....

I screamed out "What is he doing?!?

Chris was well on his way to being considered the best MW of all-time. That all stopped after he through that kick!!

 

[Carsormyr]

Man.. if Cody Mckenzie never lost to anyone and got a titleshot against Jon Jones and beat him the first round, then moved up to Heavyweight and beat Stipe in a 5 round war he would be the GOAT.

You see how stupid you sound?

 

[LockardTheGOAT]

Man.. if Cody Mckenzie never lost to anyone and got a titleshot against Jon Jones and beat him the first round, then moved up to Heavyweight and beat Stipe in a 5 round war he would be the GOAT.

You see how stupid you sound?

Well, you can make anyone's words sound stupid when you distort what they said.

 

[Carsormyr]

Well, you can make anyone's words sound stupid when you distort what they said.

The OP quoted 5 fighters in his division, a champ in the weightclass above and GOAT candidate for that division, a top 3 GOAT candidate in GSP, the entire heavyweight roster and the current WW champ. How am I distorting things? Is this your alt account TS?

 

[LockardTheGOAT]

The OP quoted 5 fighters in his division, a champ in the weightclass above and GOAT candidate for that division, a top 3 GOAT candidate in GSP, the entire heavyweight roster and the current WW champ. How am I distorting things? Is this your alt account TS?

I never said some bizarre shit like knocking Jon Jones out in one round.

And the thing with Weidman is is that all these opponents were there right in his path. If he had just kept winning, they all would have happened organically without him even going out of his way for them.

 

[HootyMcBoob]

Back when he was still undefeated, he dethroned Middleweight King Anderson Silva and beat him twice. He then beat Belfort and Machida before going on a three fight losing streak.

Had he never lost to Rockhold, and had he been a GOAT caliber fighter, he could have beaten him, Mousasi, Bisping, Romero, maybe Jacare somewhere in there, and perhaps GSP himself (chances are GSP would have never come back to make a run for the MW Title if someone like this held it, but let's pretend.) Maybe even a fight with the Welterweight Champ himself Tyron Woodley in a super fight where Woodley moved up to take a crack at the MW Title as well.

Around this same time, he could have moved up to LHW and defeated Daniel Cormier for the title and been there waiting for when Jon Jones himself returned. He could have moved up to HW and beaten the likes of Stipe, Ngannou, Cain, a returning Lesnar as well, etc.

Never before has a fighter fell into the perfect position where the stars aligned to the point where they could have had the undisputed GOAT MMA career. Too bad he just wasn't good enough.

Wait a minute, so what you are saying is that if Chris Weidman was the GOAT instead of not being the GOAT, he would be the GOAT? That's some deep stuff right there.

 

[BawzMcGee]

Just because he shot Jesse James, it doesn't make him Jesse James.

Stole that from somewhere. Probably Reddit.

 

[HootyMcBoob]

I'm tellin you guys, had Cody Mckenzie been a better fighter and gone on to beat Aldo, Conor, Edgar, Mendes, Swanson and then moved up to beat Bendo, Melendez, Alvarez. He could have been the GOAT. The chance was right there in front of him.

 

[ostlerrage]

Back when he was still undefeated, he dethroned Middleweight King Anderson Silva and beat him twice. He then beat Belfort and Machida before going on a three fight losing streak.

Had he never lost to Rockhold, and had he been a GOAT caliber fighter, he could have beaten him, Mousasi, Bisping, Romero, maybe Jacare somewhere in there, and perhaps GSP himself (chances are GSP would have never come back to make a run for the MW Title if someone like this held it, but let's pretend.) Maybe even a fight with the Welterweight Champ himself Tyron Woodley in a super fight where Woodley moved up to take a crack at the MW Title as well.

Around this same time, he could have moved up to LHW and defeated Daniel Cormier for the title and been there waiting for when Jon Jones himself returned. He could have moved up to HW and beaten the likes of Stipe, Ngannou, Cain, a returning Lesnar as well, etc.

Never before has a fighter fell into the perfect position where the stars aligned to the point where they could have had the undisputed GOAT MMA career. Too bad he just wasn't good enough.

He got two fluke wins vs andy. Got to fight unroided grandpa in belfort and struggled against machida. finally he got exposed by rockhold and romero, etc.
so no.

 

[spannered]

I never said some bizarre shit like knocking Jon Jones out in one round.

And the thing with Weidman is is that all these opponents were there right in his path. If he had just kept winning, they all would have happened organically without him even going out of his way for them.

What? Lol

"If he just kept winning" well, obviously. You can say that about literally any fighter. It's not like he needed one more win to be a GOAT candidate, you picked 6 or 7 fighters, some of whom have beaten him already, and one of which is ignorantly optimistic (DC).

"If it happened organically" what does that even mean?

I'd almost bet TS came up with this thought, 'if only Weidman didn't throw that spinning back kick against Rockhold, he could have won!', and then proceeded to start a thread, not realizing his thought became more and more ridiculous the further he fleshed it out to GOAT status.

 

[Zefram Cochrane]

 

[Large Hound 77]

If only my Aunty had a cock she could have been my Uncle

 

[Robert Clarke]

Buh bye Chris !

 

[ortizgnp]

He was lucky beating Silva twice, fought some men out of their prime and got exposed by fighting men better than him is a better summary

Yea, winning every minute and beating the shit out of someone twice is "lucky".

 

[blaseblah]

It's not just that he could have retired with an unbeaten record, you noobs. It's that the closest thing to a perfect resume of opponents would have fallen conveniently into his lap. We're talking Anderson Silva, GSP, AND Jon Jones. That's GOAT shit. Cormier, too. Then you can add the likes of Romero, Mousasi, Rockhold, Stipe, Bisping, etc. as well.

Lmao. You're reaching HARD. He was never in a position to fight GSP, Jones, Cormier or Stipe. Then you're jumping to the conclusion that he would've beaten 2 guys he already definitively lost to plus Bisping, who frankly wouldn't even have been a contender without a last minute injury.

Basically you're saying he could've been GOAT if he fought and beat four fighters outside of his weight class who he was never even in a position to fight, beat two guys who finished him, and and also happened to fight and beat Bisping due to a freak injury and last minute replacement. This is one of the least likely scenarios in mma history and is fucking retarded to even bring up.

 

[moreorless87]

Ultimately I think he just matched up well with Anderson and Lyoto, counter fighters who didn't like being on their backs.

Against guys like Rockhold and Mousasi who weren't afraid of being taken down and had a high output standing his stalking style got him beaten up.

Don't think he would have done well against any of the big names at LHW, I mean yeah its Rumble so if he gets taken down iot could be over but still more likely a KO before that and Jones, Cormier and Gus are all bad fights for him IMHO.

 

[LockardTheGOAT]

What? Lol

"If he just kept winning" well, obviously. You can say that about literally any fighter. It's not like he needed one more win to be a GOAT candidate, you picked 6 or 7 fighters, some of whom have beaten him already, and one of which is ignorantly optimistic (DC).

"If it happened organically" what does that even mean?

I'd almost bet TS came up with this thought, 'if only Weidman didn't throw that spinning back kick against Rockhold, he could have won!', and then proceeded to start a thread, not realizing his thought became more and more ridiculous the further he fleshed it out to GOAT status.

Of course you could say it about any fighter. My entire point of the thread is that you could say it the best about Chris Weidman if you look at the top fighters in or around his weight class (MW, LHW, HW) from the time he topped Anderson Silva till now. Silva, GSP, Jones, Stipe, Cormier, Rockhold, Romero, Mousasi, Bisping, Whittaker, Jacare, etc. You'd have three out of the top four contenders for GOAT fighter (Jones, GSP, Silva) all in this one resume alone.

 

[Fedor>Cain]

Back when he was still undefeated, he dethroned Middleweight King Anderson Silva and beat him twice. He then beat Belfort and Machida before going on a three fight losing streak.

Had he never lost to Rockhold, and had he been a GOAT caliber fighter, he could have beaten him, Mousasi, Bisping, Romero, maybe Jacare somewhere in there, and perhaps GSP himself (chances are GSP would have never come back to make a run for the MW Title if someone like this held it, but let's pretend.) Maybe even a fight with the Welterweight Champ himself Tyron Woodley in a super fight where Woodley moved up to take a crack at the MW Title as well.

Around this same time, he could have moved up to LHW and defeated Daniel Cormier for the title and been there waiting for when Jon Jones himself returned. He could have moved up to HW and beaten the likes of Stipe, Ngannou, Cain, a returning Lesnar as well, etc.

Never before has a fighter fell into the perfect position where the stars aligned to the point where they could have had the undisputed GOAT MMA career. Too bad he just wasn't good enough.

Everybody has the chance to be the undisputed goat when they are undefeated...

The truth is that Weidman never had the chance to be the undisputed goat because he isn't even the best fighter at his weight class.

Weidman is a good fighter, but nothing groundbreaking.