Classism in Liberal News Comedy

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  1. JudoThrowFiasco

    JudoThrowFiasco Charming Quark Platinum Member

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    @Trotsky really does not have a grasp on Canadian politics, at least not from that post you are quoting.
     
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  2. Devout Pessimist

    Devout Pessimist Tragic Vision

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    I fully realize that most Canadians are liberal sissies. Sadly, Trudeau is pretty close to your average Canadian. A smug, self-righteous, virtue-signalling, coddled, spoiled-brat.
     
  3. Kafir-kun

    Kafir-kun not-so-grand mufti of Sherdog

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    I consider myself a leftist. Its true I agree with the right at times but that's generally when I feel they've offered valid criticisms of leftist policies. However, that doesn't mean I give up on the left but rather I go back to the leftist drawing board so to speak.
     
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    Have you read criticisms about construct validity of racial resentment? It's a big question what does racial resentment scale actually measures.
     
  5. Gandhi

    Gandhi War Room Deep State Platinum Member

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    Yeah go figure, all those horrible policies that landed Canada with functioning and cheaper health care, a banking system that did not come close to evaporating into dust during the GFC, and a tax system that does not massively favors upward wealth redistribution at a time when wealth inequality has already been on the rise for decades.

    Speaking of virtue signaling, here you are spouting off about govt funded left wing media then admitting its irrelevant while giving us a rant that is devoid of policy and guilty of the very signalling you are crying about.

    Is it time for another time out, Atheist?
     
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    Fluffernutter Black Belt

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    I know it's slightly off topic, but I always found that people who make fun of the "People Who Shop at Walmart" tend to be politically left of center.



    I get it, you buy your groceries at Whole Foods rather than a Walmart SuperCenter. But, that doesn't mean that those people need to be a source of your punchline.
     
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  7. Trotsky

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    It doesn't look like they've had a modern social democrat at the helm. And currently the NDP has 44 of 443 (<10%) congressional seats.

    Britain and the US have had soc dems elected to the presidency in the past too (FDR/Truman, James Callaghan). That doesn't change the fact that in the age of austerity social democrats like Corbyn and Sanders get put through the ringer by corporate media.

    Where are my presumptions off base here? @Gandhi

    EDIT: I mean....presuming you are Canadian, you do realize all the hand wringing here about how "far left" neoliberal Trudeau is, right?
     
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  8. JudoThrowFiasco

    JudoThrowFiasco Charming Quark Platinum Member

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    NDP was the 2nd major party in parliament until recently (we do not have congress) They hold premiership in two major provinces -- to your Truman/FDR we had MacKenzie King and held significant influence in coalitions in several federal elected governments.

    But, no -- neither Trudeau or Harper were GWB liked -- policy reflective of Clinton and Obama


    **Edit** Just saw your edit, yeah -- and Justin can be define as a far left panderer from a social issue standpoint. Economic policy not so much
     
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  9. Trotsky

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    Okay, so doesn't this confirm what I said? Your most recent social democratic leader, MacKenzie King I presume, reigned during the 1940s.

    That's 30 years before the onset of the neoliberal era of Reagan and Thatcher wherein the status quo, maintained by corporate media, became hostile to social democrats. It's during this time that figures like Sanders and Corbyn have been raked over the coals for sensible policy making.

    I was being facetious re GWB. But neither Trudeau, nor certainly Harper, are meaningfully economically progressive. To paint either as far leftists is laughable.
     
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    Countering your point that we havent had a socially democratic leader, we have.

    But in canada we havent been hostile to social democrats -- they have held premiership in multiple major provinces (and in canadian federalism that is a big deal) They have been the major minority party recently and and have formed coalitions.

    No, neither are "progressive" as you would view it.
     
  11. Trotsky

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    Did I make that statement? If I did, it was inadvertent. That would be absolutely ludicrous given that social democrats were ubiquitous in the West from the 1930s-1960s.
     
  12. JudoThrowFiasco

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    I may have misread an earlier post -- but the point remains we havent been hostile to social democrats. I sure as hell have but canada as a whole as not been
     
  13. Devout Pessimist

    Devout Pessimist Tragic Vision

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    The NDP in its current form is a SJW party lead by a Sikh separatist. That is why their support is in free-fall mode.
     
  14. Gandhi

    Gandhi War Room Deep State Platinum Member

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    They have never had one at the helm of the nation tue, but they have them lead major federal political parties (Liberals and NDP) as well as run provinces. Also you need to back up your presumption of bias. Not being elected at does not equal media bias. The Reform party could have made the exact same claim of bias against right candidates. The media does not have a conservative radio or fox news element in Canada. Yes I am Canadian and the hand wringing here over Trudeau is not representative of Canadians at all, and where it does exist largely due to identity politics, some of it retarded, some it Trudeau's own silly fault.
     
  15. floivanus

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    I’m in a union job, I go to work, get my base pay, plus an incentive plan, mine is load based (truck driving dontyaknow) and we’re coming up for negotiations soon, they’re pushing for an across the board equal incentive plan for everyone. My job being load based has me driving pedal down 8 hours straight everyday. Other jobs are far more relaxed.

    In the name of equality, they say
     

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