Communist candidate defeated in Colombia.

Too bad the lessons keep being forgotten or ignored by the people who think it will work as long as they are running things. Or on some level they don't really care and just want power for its own sake.
 
You get dumber by the day. Legit dumber.

Good on you for calling him out. You are such a smarter person and poster than he is. You don't say anything off color or insensitive, that makes you get all the pussy and be a better man at the same time.
 
Good on you for calling him out. You are such a smarter person and poster than he is. You don't say anything off color or insensitive, that makes you get all the pussy and be a better man at the same time.


That’s very nice of you to say. Thanks
 
People here are defending the under the the table sales of weapons to a terrorist state in the Middle East so we could secretly fund genocide in Latin America.


As if those people posed a threat to the u ied states of America during the 1980s.
 
Are we deliberately misusing communism and socialism for the thread schtick, or do I really need to point out that Venezuela wasn't a communist state?

They were state capitalists who hedged their entire economy on oil. They were closer to the middle eastern petrostates than they were to even the USSR.

Socialist, yes. Communist, no.

What is the difference between a 'state capitalist' and a communist in your view? Sounds like semantics to me, state run economy is exactly what communism is, no?
 
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What is the difference between a 'state capitalist' and a communist in your view? Sounds like semantics to me, state run economy is exactly what communism is, no?

No.

Capitalism and Communism are mutually exclusive. Words have meaning.
 
No.

Capitalism and Communism are mutually exclusive. Words have meaning.

You still didn't explain the difference. Do you think communist countries don't have economies? Do you think there are no markets or currency in communist countries? Sounds like you're talking about the fairytale communism that academics talk about and not the actual realities of communist systems.
 
You still didn't explain the difference. Do you think communist countries don't have economies? Do you think there are no markets or currency in communist countries? Sounds like you're talking about the fairytale communism that academics talk about and not the actual realities of communist systems.

So it sounds like the US is Fascist since Trump is an authoritarian dick and meanings of words don't matter.

<DisgustingHHH>
 
I really thought Trump's praise and high regard for Un was going to turn things around and make communist dictatorships cool and popular again. Sad!

Out of simple curiosity "why you would make such a stupid statement" Is what my sister said after reading this comment to her. lmao "These are the idiots that will help Trump stay in office." She is not a fan of our president but you make it hard for intelligent people to even entertain the progressive mantra it's so tainted, bitterly tainted.

Are you even aware of how ignorant you display your mentality to the public is?

God damn reality... It's a motherfucker ain't it?
 
Through hindsight? do you honestly think that right wing paramilitaries is what stopped FARC? no they didnt, they actually did exactly the same thing as FARC. Its almost as if you didnt even read the link i gave you.

Funny shit you mention the Cuban revolution, that wouldnt had happened if the US hadnt backed up Batista coup in the first place.
I said that the government of Colombia, an organization that was backed by the US, helped put down the guerillas.

And yet it was a small group of people hiding in the mountains that overthrew the government. So I guess small bands of terrorists can't change governments?
 
So we are lying now? cool.

Im calling a spade a spade, supporting genocide is supporting genocide.
Once again, you're the liar. You are seriously bitter and foaming at the mouth about American policy. What happened to you? Family member killed by the DEA or something?

Again, false dichotomy, at least @Greoric had the decency to back out when he realized that he was ignorant of the topic, you decide to double down on the American exceptionalism and then get surprised people dont take it lightly at people talking about murder and chaos so non-chalantly?

You do realize that gunboat diplomacy and the banana wars preceded the cold war right? Soviets just saw an opportunity, its not like they didnt exploited real grievances in the first place.
Your are such a melodramatic person. Saying "genocide" and "murder" doesn't make anything you're saying true, and you're proving once again that you're completely ignorant, as per usual. What I'm saying is that the situation in Latin America had a lot of actors in it and no good options. But all you can see is your own anger, which is why you continuously spout retarded stuff. It doesn't have to be this way though, but that would require putting aside your incredible ego and actually looking at the world from someone else's perspective. The fact that you can't is why you will always be in the position you're in today.

Ah, yes. Defend the actions of the Soviets. Strong move...
 
Out of simple curiosity "why you would make such a stupid statement" Is what my sister said after reading this comment to her. lmao "These are the idiots that will help Trump stay in office." She is not a fan of our president but you make it hard for intelligent people to even entertain the progressive mantra it's so tainted, bitterly tainted.

Are you even aware of how ignorant you display your mentality to the public is?

God damn reality... It's a motherfucker ain't it?

Sometimes humor is the most effective means of imparting underlying truths. Sorry if I rustled you or your loved ones.

Trump is a reprehensible incompetent immoral moron. It needs to be said clearly and consistently as a response to the 24/7 gaslighting coming from the administration.
 
I said that the government of Colombia, an organization that was backed by the US, helped put down the guerillas.

And yet it was a small group of people hiding in the mountains that overthrew the government. So I guess small bands of terrorists can't change governments?

Right, you were not excusing the creation of right wing paramilitaries and brutal dictators at all. Just talking about legitimate governments who asked for help.

Also read a bit about the Cuban revolution and the fall of Batista, the comparison is without merit.

Once again, you're the liar. You are seriously bitter and foaming at the mouth about American policy. What happened to you? Family member killed by the DEA or something?

Bitter? nope, pissed off at apologism? sure as hell.

It would be like me claiming that America deserved 9/11 and then get confused about Americans calling me out.

America acted like any other empire, thats pretty much it, there is nothing exceptional about America, they fucked with weaker nations because they could, no hard feelings about it from me. But dont try to rationalize it.
 
Good. Communist candidates should be defeated in every country. Always.
 
Your are such a melodramatic person. Saying "genocide" and "murder" doesn't make anything you're saying true, and you're proving once again that you're completely ignorant, as per usual.

But there was an actual genocide going on.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guatemalan_genocide

What I'm saying is that the situation in Latin America had a lot of actors in it and no good options.

And this is the crux of the issue, "Latin Americans are just too dumb to be able to create their own nations with their own goals, so a brutal dictatorship is better than a democracy that may or may not align with us".

There were TONS of good options, thats the whole issue im taking, saying that there is "no good options" in Latin America, is blatant apologism to the meddling the US did in the region.

But all you can see is your own anger, which is why you continuously spout retarded stuff. It doesn't have to be this way though, but that would require putting aside your incredible ego and actually looking at the world from someone else's perspective. The fact that you can't is why you will always be in the position you're in today.

Or maybe you ought to start seeing other people like humans who have the same wants and needs as you.

Freedom and well-being, tons of people were fighting over those.

Ah, yes. Defend the actions of the Soviets. Strong move...

You seem to be unaware what a false dichotomy is. I merely say that a lot of people saw opportunity on the rise of another global power to fight against what they felt was the "older" oppressor.

You are trying to paint a picture of US intervention being reactionary against communism, when it was the opposite, even JFK could see that.

I believe that there is no country in the world including any and all the countries under colonial domination, where economic colonization, humiliation and exploitation were worse than in Cuba, in part owing to my country's policies during the Batista regime. I approved the proclamation which Fidel Castro made in the Sierra Maestra, when he justifiably called for justice and especially yearned to rid Cuba of corruption. I will even go further: to some extent it is as though Batista was the incarnation of a number of sins on the part of the United States. Now we shall have to pay for those sins. In the matter of the Batista regime, I am in agreement with the first Cuban revolutionaries. That is perfectly clear.

— U.S. President John F. Kennedy, to Jean Daniel, October 24, 1963[61]


On October 6, 1960 Senator John F. Kennedy, in the midst of his campaign for the U.S. Presidency, decried Batista's relationship with the U.S. government and criticized the Eisenhower administration for supporting him:

Fulgencio Batista murdered 20,000 Cubans in seven years ... and he turned Democratic Cuba into a complete police state—destroying every individual liberty. Yet our aid to his regime, and the ineptness of our policies, enabled Batista to invoke the name of the United States in support of his reign of terror. Administration spokesmen publicly praised Batista—hailed him as a staunch ally and a good friend—at a time when Batista was murdering thousands, destroying the last vestiges of freedom, and stealing hundreds of millions of dollars from the Cuban people, and we failed to press for free elections.[47]
 
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