Conspiracy is a Gates-way drug (New flip+guilty plea +++WOW+++): Investigation v. 14

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It's Thursday.

Mueller Subpoenas Trump Organization, Demanding Documents About Russia
It was not clear why the special counsel, Robert S. Mueller III, issued the subpoena instead of simply asking for the documents from the company.Doug Mills/The New York Times


By Michael S. Schmidt and Maggie Haberman

March 15, 2018
WASHINGTON — The special counsel, Robert S. Mueller III, has subpoenaed the Trump Organization to turn over documents, including some related to Russia, according to two people briefed on the matter. The order is the first known time that the special counsel demanded documents directly related to President Trump’s businesses, bringing the investigation closer to the president.

The breadth of the subpoena was not clear, nor was it clear why Mr. Mueller issued it instead of simply asking for the documents from the company, an umbrella organization that oversees Mr. Trump’s business ventures. In the subpoena, delivered in recent weeks, Mr. Mueller ordered the Trump Organization to hand over all documents related to Russia and other topics he is investigating, the people said.

The subpoena is the latest indication that the investigation, which Mr. Trump’s lawyers once regularly assured him would be completed by now, will drag on for at least several more months. Word of the subpoena comes as Mr. Mueller appears to be broadening his investigation to examine the role foreign money may have played in funding Mr. Trump’s political activities. In recent weeks, Mr. Mueller’s investigators have questioned witnesses, including an adviser to the United Arab Emirates, about the flow of Emirati money into the United States.

Neither White House officials nor Alan S. Futerfas, a lawyer representing the Trump Organization, immediately responded to requests for comment. The Trump Organization has typically complied with requests from congressional investigators for documents for their own inquiries into Russian election interference, and there was no indication the company planned to fight Mr. Mueller about it.

emailed Mr. Trump’s lawyer Michael Cohen at his Trump Organization account claiming he had ties to President Vladimir V. Putin of Russia and said that building a Trump Tower in Moscow would help Mr. Trump’s presidential campaign.

Mr. Trump signed a nonbinding “letter of intent” for the project in 2015 and discussed it three times with Mr. Cohen.

Mr. Mueller could run afoul of a red line the president has warned him not to cross. Though it is not clear how much of the subpoena is related to Mr. Trump’s business beyond ties to Russia, Mr. Trump said in an interview with The New York Times in July that the special counsel would be crossing a “red line” if he looked into his family’s finances beyond any relationship with Russia. The president declined to say how he would respond if he concluded that the special counsel had crossed that line.

have advised Mr. Trump to refuse an interview but the president wants to do it, as he believes he has done nothing wrong and can easily answer investigators’ questions.

At the same time, Mr. Trump is considering whether to bring on a new lawyer help represent him in the special counsel’s investigation. Last week, Mr. Trump spoke with Emmet Flood, a longtime Washington lawyer who represented former President Bill Clinton during the impeachment process, about coming into the White House to deal with the inquiry.

Michael S. Schmidt reported from Washington, and Maggie Haberman from New York.
 
I read a few days ago the dems in the intel committee say they have info that trump org was looking into doing business with sanctioned russia during the election.
 
so what happens if trump refuses, hides or even destroys docs that are subpoenaed?
 
Well...

It's Thursday.

Mueller Subpoenas Trump Organization, Demanding Documents About Russia
It was not clear why the special counsel, Robert S. Mueller III, issued the subpoena instead of simply asking for the documents from the company.Doug Mills/The New York Times


By Michael S. Schmidt and Maggie Haberman

March 15, 2018
WASHINGTON — The special counsel, Robert S. Mueller III, has subpoenaed the Trump Organization to turn over documents, including some related to Russia, according to two people briefed on the matter. The order is the first known time that the special counsel demanded documents directly related to President Trump’s businesses, bringing the investigation closer to the president.

The breadth of the subpoena was not clear, nor was it clear why Mr. Mueller issued it instead of simply asking for the documents from the company, an umbrella organization that oversees Mr. Trump’s business ventures. In the subpoena, delivered in recent weeks, Mr. Mueller ordered the Trump Organization to hand over all documents related to Russia and other topics he is investigating, the people said.

The subpoena is the latest indication that the investigation, which Mr. Trump’s lawyers once regularly assured him would be completed by now, will drag on for at least several more months. Word of the subpoena comes as Mr. Mueller appears to be broadening his investigation to examine the role foreign money may have played in funding Mr. Trump’s political activities. In recent weeks, Mr. Mueller’s investigators have questioned witnesses, including an adviser to the United Arab Emirates, about the flow of Emirati money into the United States.

Neither White House officials nor Alan S. Futerfas, a lawyer representing the Trump Organization, immediately responded to requests for comment. The Trump Organization has typically complied with requests from congressional investigators for documents for their own inquiries into Russian election interference, and there was no indication the company planned to fight Mr. Mueller about it.

emailed Mr. Trump’s lawyer Michael Cohen at his Trump Organization account claiming he had ties to President Vladimir V. Putin of Russia and said that building a Trump Tower in Moscow would help Mr. Trump’s presidential campaign.

Mr. Trump signed a nonbinding “letter of intent” for the project in 2015 and discussed it three times with Mr. Cohen.

Mr. Mueller could run afoul of a red line the president has warned him not to cross. Though it is not clear how much of the subpoena is related to Mr. Trump’s business beyond ties to Russia, Mr. Trump said in an interview with The New York Times in July that the special counsel would be crossing a “red line” if he looked into his family’s finances beyond any relationship with Russia. The president declined to say how he would respond if he concluded that the special counsel had crossed that line.

have advised Mr. Trump to refuse an interview but the president wants to do it, as he believes he has done nothing wrong and can easily answer investigators’ questions.

At the same time, Mr. Trump is considering whether to bring on a new lawyer help represent him in the special counsel’s investigation. Last week, Mr. Trump spoke with Emmet Flood, a longtime Washington lawyer who represented former President Bill Clinton during the impeachment process, about coming into the White House to deal with the inquiry.

Michael S. Schmidt reported from Washington, and Maggie Haberman from New York.
And this is where Trump goes full Nixon.
 
so what happens if trump refuses, hides or even destroys docs that are subpoenaed?
Destroying subpoenaed documents would be a monumentally bad idea. That would be serious trouble. Not that this whole thing isn't serious, of course. He'd be truly getting into Nixon territory, though, at that point.
 
Finally a #Thisisit that actually means something.

I was getting worried Mueller had slowed down but it looks like he's still hot on the case.

Expected Trump twitter tantrum in 3,2,1....

He'll probably fire Sessions to let off some steam.
 
Well...

It's Thursday.

Mueller Subpoenas Trump Organization, Demanding Documents About Russia
It was not clear why the special counsel, Robert S. Mueller III, issued the subpoena instead of simply asking for the documents from the company.Doug Mills/The New York Times


By Michael S. Schmidt and Maggie Haberman

March 15, 2018
WASHINGTON — The special counsel, Robert S. Mueller III, has subpoenaed the Trump Organization to turn over documents, including some related to Russia, according to two people briefed on the matter. The order is the first known time that the special counsel demanded documents directly related to President Trump’s businesses, bringing the investigation closer to the president.

The breadth of the subpoena was not clear, nor was it clear why Mr. Mueller issued it instead of simply asking for the documents from the company, an umbrella organization that oversees Mr. Trump’s business ventures. In the subpoena, delivered in recent weeks, Mr. Mueller ordered the Trump Organization to hand over all documents related to Russia and other topics he is investigating, the people said.

The subpoena is the latest indication that the investigation, which Mr. Trump’s lawyers once regularly assured him would be completed by now, will drag on for at least several more months. Word of the subpoena comes as Mr. Mueller appears to be broadening his investigation to examine the role foreign money may have played in funding Mr. Trump’s political activities. In recent weeks, Mr. Mueller’s investigators have questioned witnesses, including an adviser to the United Arab Emirates, about the flow of Emirati money into the United States.

Neither White House officials nor Alan S. Futerfas, a lawyer representing the Trump Organization, immediately responded to requests for comment. The Trump Organization has typically complied with requests from congressional investigators for documents for their own inquiries into Russian election interference, and there was no indication the company planned to fight Mr. Mueller about it.

emailed Mr. Trump’s lawyer Michael Cohen at his Trump Organization account claiming he had ties to President Vladimir V. Putin of Russia and said that building a Trump Tower in Moscow would help Mr. Trump’s presidential campaign.

Mr. Trump signed a nonbinding “letter of intent” for the project in 2015 and discussed it three times with Mr. Cohen.

Mr. Mueller could run afoul of a red line the president has warned him not to cross. Though it is not clear how much of the subpoena is related to Mr. Trump’s business beyond ties to Russia, Mr. Trump said in an interview with The New York Times in July that the special counsel would be crossing a “red line” if he looked into his family’s finances beyond any relationship with Russia. The president declined to say how he would respond if he concluded that the special counsel had crossed that line.

have advised Mr. Trump to refuse an interview but the president wants to do it, as he believes he has done nothing wrong and can easily answer investigators’ questions.

At the same time, Mr. Trump is considering whether to bring on a new lawyer help represent him in the special counsel’s investigation. Last week, Mr. Trump spoke with Emmet Flood, a longtime Washington lawyer who represented former President Bill Clinton during the impeachment process, about coming into the White House to deal with the inquiry.

Michael S. Schmidt reported from Washington, and Maggie Haberman from New York.


This is a perfect start for version 15 @Quipling
 
Finally a #Thisisit that actually means something.

I was getting worried Mueller had slowed down but it looks like he's still hot on the case.

Expected Trump twitter tantrum in 3,2,1....

He'll probably fire Sessions to let off some steam.

I've seen rumors and rumblings that Mueller has wrapped up his obstruction case and is moving on to bigger and better crimes. Widening the scope of the investigation
 
I read a few days ago the dems in the intel committee say they have info that trump org was looking into doing business with sanctioned russia during the election.


Quite the overt message that "If Trump wins, the sanctions will go away".
 
Quite the overt message that "If Trump wins, the sanctions will go away".

The timing of this rumbling around and Trump suddenly going "HEY LOOK EVERYONE I'M SANCTIONING RUSSIA!" is surely a giant coincidence.

Smells like something's almost done in the kitchen and it's definitely not nothingburger.....
 
The timing of this rumbling around and Trump suddenly going "HEY LOOK EVERYONE I'M SANCTIONING RUSSIA!" is surely a giant coincidence.

Smells like something's almost done in the kitchen and it's definitely not nothingburger.....

Aaah the moment the nothingburger becomes real.

This reminds me of this scene.

 
Well...

It's Thursday.

Mueller Subpoenas Trump Organization, Demanding Documents About Russia
It was not clear why the special counsel, Robert S. Mueller III, issued the subpoena instead of simply asking for the documents from the company.Doug Mills/The New York Times


By Michael S. Schmidt and Maggie Haberman

March 15, 2018
WASHINGTON — The special counsel, Robert S. Mueller III, has subpoenaed the Trump Organization to turn over documents, including some related to Russia, according to two people briefed on the matter. The order is the first known time that the special counsel demanded documents directly related to President Trump’s businesses, bringing the investigation closer to the president.

The breadth of the subpoena was not clear, nor was it clear why Mr. Mueller issued it instead of simply asking for the documents from the company, an umbrella organization that oversees Mr. Trump’s business ventures. In the subpoena, delivered in recent weeks, Mr. Mueller ordered the Trump Organization to hand over all documents related to Russia and other topics he is investigating, the people said.

The subpoena is the latest indication that the investigation, which Mr. Trump’s lawyers once regularly assured him would be completed by now, will drag on for at least several more months. Word of the subpoena comes as Mr. Mueller appears to be broadening his investigation to examine the role foreign money may have played in funding Mr. Trump’s political activities. In recent weeks, Mr. Mueller’s investigators have questioned witnesses, including an adviser to the United Arab Emirates, about the flow of Emirati money into the United States.

Neither White House officials nor Alan S. Futerfas, a lawyer representing the Trump Organization, immediately responded to requests for comment. The Trump Organization has typically complied with requests from congressional investigators for documents for their own inquiries into Russian election interference, and there was no indication the company planned to fight Mr. Mueller about it.

emailed Mr. Trump’s lawyer Michael Cohen at his Trump Organization account claiming he had ties to President Vladimir V. Putin of Russia and said that building a Trump Tower in Moscow would help Mr. Trump’s presidential campaign.

Mr. Trump signed a nonbinding “letter of intent” for the project in 2015 and discussed it three times with Mr. Cohen.

Mr. Mueller could run afoul of a red line the president has warned him not to cross. Though it is not clear how much of the subpoena is related to Mr. Trump’s business beyond ties to Russia, Mr. Trump said in an interview with The New York Times in July that the special counsel would be crossing a “red line” if he looked into his family’s finances beyond any relationship with Russia. The president declined to say how he would respond if he concluded that the special counsel had crossed that line.

have advised Mr. Trump to refuse an interview but the president wants to do it, as he believes he has done nothing wrong and can easily answer investigators’ questions.

At the same time, Mr. Trump is considering whether to bring on a new lawyer help represent him in the special counsel’s investigation. Last week, Mr. Trump spoke with Emmet Flood, a longtime Washington lawyer who represented former President Bill Clinton during the impeachment process, about coming into the White House to deal with the inquiry.

Michael S. Schmidt reported from Washington, and Maggie Haberman from New York.

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so what happens if trump refuses, hides or even destroys docs that are subpoenaed?

@PolishHeadlock in post 1013 had a great link that goes over this, among a lot of other questions:

If documents are destroyed, that could be obstruction of justice. For example, former Hollinger tycoon Conrad Black was convicted of obstruction of justice for hiding documents.
But it is often the case that the defense withholds documents due to privilege issues and the government disagrees with the scope of the privilege asserted by the defense. That sort of legal fight could arise in the months to come.

Doesn't sound like Mueller wants the WH's deal to end the probe anytime soon.<20>
 
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Trump is corrupt. Just to make it thread related.
 
I read a few days ago the dems in the intel committee say they have info that trump org was looking into doing business with sanctioned russia during the election.


Site cannot be reached. Seems like a DOS attack.
 
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