Valentina didn't technically lose to Liz Carmouche. Liz hit valentina with an illegal upkick, which caused a cut. Dr stopped the fight. Liz was now has a win on her record instead of a DQ/NC.
Source:https://www.reddit.com/r/MuayThai/comments/3whs1v/heres_some_info_and_breaking_down_her_technique/
Jesus, you are dense. Nick Montano beat a who's who in her division in TUF to get the belt. Rose beat someone who was on a hot streak versus a who's who of her division. Rose's last win is better than any of Cyborg's, ever. Ladies featherweight is a garbage division, always has been. Cyborg's resume is trash. Her best win in years is against someone who was 1-3 in her last four.Yeah cuz every 135 women and 125 women signed has a 10 and 0 undefeated record i forgot lmao..isnt the new 125 champ like 3 and 2 or some shit isnt rose like 6 and 3? And shes champ... stop making excuses or finding ways to dimish what shes accomplished 21 fight unbeaten streak thats hard for any fighter in any sport..in any division..
According to this list theres over 40+ current 145ers..some have shit records some are valid fighters...others maybe not ready just yet to face her but have them fight each other and get better..cyborg doesnt have to fight every 3 months..so let them battle abit and get better ..natural order and the rules of competition have proven throughout history that as long as there a division viable contenders will form and rise up..how do you think ronda lost? Or aldo? ..or silva?..
https://www.tapology.com/rankings/1265-top-women-featherweight-fighters
Jesus, you are dense. Nick Montano beat a who's who in her division in TUF to get the belt. Rose beat someone who was on a hot streak versus a who's who of her division. Rose's last win is better than any of Cyborg's, ever. Ladies featherweight is a garbage division, always has been. Cyborg's resume is trash. Her best win in years is against someone who was 1-3 in her last four.
Jesus, you are dense. Nick Montano beat a who's who in her division in TUF to get the belt. Rose beat someone who was on a hot streak versus a who's who of her division. Rose's last win is better than any of Cyborg's, ever. Ladies featherweight is a garbage division, always has been. Cyborg's resume is trash. Her best win in years is against someone who was 1-3 in her last four.
Well, I was talking more about Rose, but yes, Nico Montano has better wins on her resume than Cyborg, as well. Nice hasn't spent her relatively short career calling smaller fighters cowards for not fighting her, and has fought higher ranked opponents than Cyborg has. Goodbye. I'll take @Eater of Souls advice.So nick montano is better then cyborg is what your saying because she won the tuf show?..thats your reasoning?.. your the dense one who cant appreciate a fighter like cyborg .. its crazy to me that anyone who still doubts this women..the fact that randmie whos a muay thai champ in the 145 divison multiple times flat out refused to fight her shows how legit she is and here you are minimizing her to the level of nick montano??? Lmao
Well, I was talking more about Rose, but yes, Nico Montano has better wins on her resume than Cyborg, as well. Nice hasn't spent her relatively short career calling smaller fighters cowards for not fighting her, and has fought higher ranked opponents than Cyborg has. Goodbye. I'll take @Eater of Souls advice.
The competition ronda fought is still available but now Pennington is a top contender lol rounding out my ass
The competition ronda fought beat everybody that beat her & many other past greats so their was no rounding out
The only outlier to all this is valentina who actually has a loss to liz carmouche but who knows what happen in that fight at the same time she has been fighting since 03 around the same time coenan & megumi started
Coenan move down won the title but lost & almost lost defending vs the great liz carmouche
Nunes moved down with hype after knocking out budd & lost embarrassingly in her debut than lost again & again she obviously just wasnt good enough
Ronda moved down destroyed everybody & it wasnt even close there was no hype train the ufc jumped on her train the hype was that she was the train
If by rounding out you mean rondas presence made women train harder & camps started concentrating more on female fighters & trying build the next ronda rousey or even joanna then yes women definitely got more focused
Holm didnt round out shit tho shes not a good grappler at all fortunately for her ronda started koing her opponents & started believing in her hands & power & turned into clubber lang looking for the ko & holm took full advantage
Even vs nunes ronda went straight to her throwing punches like she did vs bethe looking to land the right hand
You'll literally been shitting on ronda for rounding out her game & attempting to test it vs so called elite strikers & it didn't work out so what
All that mess you talking is dumb cyborg has the voice, facial features & body type of a man, used steroids while feasting on regular women mostly small women she gets no passes like most men because they fight other men & alot of the time have no physical advantages over those men
Well, I was talking more about Rose, but yes, Nico Montano has better wins on her resume than Cyborg, as well. Nice hasn't spent her relatively short career calling smaller fighters cowards for not fighting her, and has fought higher ranked opponents than Cyborg has. Goodbye. I'll take @Eater of Souls advice.
I never said that Holly became a grappler. I said that she learned enough keep the fight where she was good. She learned to stop Ronda's trick. People can learn enough wrestling to recover or have good takedown defence without really becoming wrestlers. You are basing this off the one fight with Miesha. A fight Miesha was losing.
Nunes would have stopped her also, the world saw her flaws get exposed and her decision to try and become a striker, lol.
She should have been working on enough striking to set up take downs and put the fights back to where she can actually do more than be a punching bag. But hey she ran away so it does not really matter, and all the other women are still there. Your hype job was misguided by a stupid coach and mentally weak.
She's avoiding Gabi. And Nunes.
She only started about developing the division when they gave her an opponent who has punching power and skill in Nunes. Then all f a sudden it went from "but, muh Brazil" to "develop my division. Give me Pam Sorenson."Shes not ducking them lol. Easy fights for her. She wants her own weight class to be developped. Completely different from Conor ducking khabib and such
there's nothing to develop. what does developing entail? signing shitty fighters hoping they will improve while fans suffer watching?Shes not ducking them lol. Easy fights for her. She wants her own weight class to be developped. Completely different from Conor ducking khabib and such
She wants McGregor to fight Jacare, a guy almost three toimes his size? Makes no sense. It's also a bit disrespectful towards Aldo/Mendes/Alvarez to say he hasn't fought tough guys. It would however be great to see him fight Khabib and/or Ferguson.
1. Of course they did it to make money. And their plan to make money was to feature Cyborg fighting.
2. She wasn't the first to fight at FW. But she was the first person the UFC asked to fight at FW. She just couldn't make that weight on short to mid term notice.
3. There have always been relatively few female FWs. Who do you think they should sign? They need at least seven more fighters just to have a top ten.
Oh please holm hardly laid a glove on tate & got totally dominated in rd 2 all tate had to do was get it to the ground again & she was done
Yes ronda had a shitty coach & still beat females in record times by ko & armbar
Imagine holm or nunes with dude as a coach lol
Its kinda great to be able to lose alot & then find better coaching & training so you can at least become a champion once & feel like you accomplished something ronda didnt need better coaching tho
But until holm, nunes & any other female you want to mention can sell more ppvs, make more money & break the barriors & many records she broke or even her ufc title defenses none of the shit you talking matters
Both women should be kissin rondas ass forever anyway & for many reasons
Ronda could've literally just not fought them especially holm nobody wanted to see that fight she couldve easily chose tate
Mentally weak??? Ronda was brave enough to came back after a yr lay off & a heartbreaking ko loss to get her title back vs a peaking nunes that doesnt seem mentally weak to me
Ronda ran??? Ran to another bag of money lol