darce..how do you like to finish?

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back in the day people use to finish by sprawling hard on the shoulder to help push it into there neck deeper then guys started to try to hip switch hook a leg or mount to finish , then i saw joe rogan do something weird where he switched the other way

it seems like theres alot of ideas on best way to finish it and guess depend son your body type and your opponents since he can bow out his shoulders makes it not so bland and white on howto get the tap
 
I've seen guys finish by going to north-south now, too.

I think the highest percentage choke though is actually stepping over into a mounted guillotine.
 
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I've seen guys finish by going to north-south now, too.

I think the highest percentage choke though is actually stepping over into a mounted guillotine.


yeah i dont have long arms though i use to finish it alot but as guys over the years have gotten better at defense getting there shoulders pushed in to get a good lick is hard the way im doing it

i need to find a good solid way i like to see all the dif types of ways and figure which work best for me
 
Hook leg and sit to hip - nerve crank
Step over to mount - take away blood
 
Versus turtle buy sliding in with the choking knuckles facing the ceiling and walk into them with your figure four on top to trap the legs and finish.

From the top by stepping over to the mount and finish or the DSS style by trapping a leg and rolling all the way over like this

 
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back in the day people use to finish by sprawling hard on the shoulder to help push it into there neck deeper then guys started to try to hip switch hook a leg or mount to finish , then i saw joe rogan do something weird where he switched the other way

it seems like theres alot of ideas on best way to finish it and guess depend son your body type and your opponents since he can bow out his shoulders makes it not so bland and white on howto get the tap
Honestly it depends right? Do you want to just be decent with it or a specialist?

I'd say there are 4 or 5 pretty common angles to finish the technique. If you just want to be decent at the technique then maybe pick one or two of those finishing angles that you like and get good at those. The cool thing about this sub is is basically works from any angle as long as you keep it locked up and keep trying to keeps your hips facing theirs. So drill it like this. Lock it up just hard enough to hold it in place and tell your partner to move around to try to escape it and follow him around and try to make it so your belt knots are facing each other. On top, on bottom, on your side, mounted, guard, doesn't matter. Just keep that angle and then you'll be able to finish it anywhere they go.

In general the top finishes tend to put a little more crank on their neck and the bottom finishes tend to be cleaner chokes. So I think it's smart to be good at at least one top angle finish and one bottom angle finish.

With this sub as well as the guillotine choke (especially the high elbow) this is what you must do to maximize it to its full potential. The best darce choke and guillotine choke guys rarely try to force just one position to finish. They lock it up and they may prefer a certain way but if the opponent moves around then they are ready to move with it and take it wherever it goes.
 
Hook leg and sit to hip - nerve crank
Step over to mount - take away blood
yeah people use to hook the leg alot back in 2010 then started to mount with it more and drive across as much as possible but getting it locked with guys with wide shoulders who bow them out is the thing

i can get to the position all day but getting them broken down to get my hands locked is the thing
 
Honestly it depends right? Do you want to just be decent with it or a specialist?

I'd say there are 4 or 5 pretty common angles to finish the technique. If you just want to be decent at the technique then maybe pick one or two of those finishing angles that you like and get good at those. The cool thing about this sub is is basically works from any angle as long as you keep it locked up and keep trying to keeps your hips facing theirs. So drill it like this. Lock it up just hard enough to hold it in place and tell your partner to move around to try to escape it and follow him around and try to make it so your belt knots are facing each other. On top, on bottom, on your side, mounted, guard, doesn't matter. Just keep that angle and then you'll be able to finish it anywhere they go.

In general the top finishes tend to put a little more crank on their neck and the bottom finishes tend to be cleaner chokes. So I think it's smart to be good at at least one top angle finish and one bottom angle finish.

With this sub as well as the guillotine choke (especially the high elbow) this is what you must do to maximize it to its full potential. The best darce choke and guillotine choke guys rarely try to force just one position to finish. They lock it up and they may prefer a certain way but if the opponent moves around then they are ready to move with it and take it wherever it goes.


yeah all moves need a series like armbar triangle omoplata i have a really good head and arm guillotine i wana compliment better with a darce
 
yeah all moves need a series like armbar triangle omoplata i have a really good head and arm guillotine i wana compliment better with a darce
That's good! They chain so well together. Working on each one should make you better at the other.
 
The only position I can reliably finish the d'arce from is bottom side control. Embarrassing.
 
I've found grip details to be very important to get a clean choke instead of crank. Reach deep for the tricep and rotate the non choking arm outward.
 
what do you think of finish it from half? i use to never do it from half but seems alot of guys are doing it now but have a different way of doing it vs sidecontrol

i like to do subs that is till have top position even if i fail im not big on doing subs that i have to lose top position thats why i dont go for armbars as much anymore from top i prefer guillotines, arm triangles, darces, rnc and i wana get really solid at crucifix but tis hard to find alot of details with it the baret way
 
yeah people use to hook the leg alot back in 2010 then started to mount with it more and drive across as much as possible but getting it locked with guys with wide shoulders who bow them out is the thing

i can get to the position all day but getting them broken down to get my hands locked is the thing
Break them down with a 3/4 stack or Necktie grip, then slide it in and lock.
 
what do you think of finish it from half?

It's a good finish. Anytime you have the darce locked up from either the top or the bottom, you can step your leg into half guard and then use your legs to put some extra bite on the choke. It's like Rafa Mendes says: Lock it up and then just run towards their half guard and if they try to put you in the half guard then they're doing your job for you.
 
I finish it the same way I finish all no-gi chokes. I try to put uke in the fetal position and drive his chin down into his chest. If you can break spinal alignment and drive that chin down you can finish with very little effort. It's no accident that many defenses to the Darce involve either bracing your chin with your hand or framing the hips to prevent tori from collapsing into you and breaking your spinal alignment.
 
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