Dark alley, night, girl in bikini should be safe, agree?

Quote: "A women should be able to walk down a dark alley, at night, in a bikini, and feel safe."

Do you agree with this statement?

Absolutely, yes.

The conservative in me would discourage the woman from doing that, as it is a poor decision. Walking down a dark alley at night, regardless of what a man or a woman is wearing, is not safe.

The liberal in me recognizes that the woman should be able to walk down a dark alley at night in a bikini and feel safe.

Sadly we live in a world where crime and sexual assault are sad facts of life.
 
Only safe is she has machine gun Jubblies.

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why shouldnt they be able to feel safe? realistically thats not gonna happen, but i am curious why you say they shouldnt be able.


Because Dark alley people have the right be rapey and super horny!
 
They should be safe. They probably won't be safe. If something happens, the perpetrator is still in the wrong and not the girl in the bikini.
 
So I was listening to the radio in the background, and a statement catches my ear.

Quote: "A women should be able to walk down a dark alley, at night, in a bikini, and feel safe."

Do you agree with this statement?

I dont agree, because I wouldn't feel safe walking down a dark alley, at night, wearing a bikini, or just pants too I guess.

Discuss......

In a perfect world yes. It depends on whether we live in a perfect world, or close to perfect it is.
 
It depends on the season. Frost bite is no joke. Extra layers help in the Winter.
 
An Israeli girl would feel safe.

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What is the story behind that? Off duty police still need to cary?
 
So I was listening to the radio in the background, and a statement catches my ear.

Quote: "A women should be able to walk down a dark alley, at night, in a bikini, and feel safe."

Do you agree with this statement?

I dont agree, because I wouldn't feel safe walking down a dark alley, at night, wearing a bikini, or just pants too I guess.

Discuss......
I'm gonna have to slut shame right here.
 
What should be, and what is, is very different..
 
So I was listening to the radio in the background, and a statement catches my ear.

Quote: "A women should be able to walk down a dark alley, at night, in a bikini, and feel safe."

Do you agree with this statement?

I dont agree, because I wouldn't feel safe walking down a dark alley, at night, wearing a bikini, or just pants too I guess.

Discuss......
Should be? Sure.

Is and ever will be? No. Of course not. There have been mentally ill degenerates since the beginning of mankind and always will be.

It may be taboo to say, but sometimes you really are asking for it, especially in the situation you describe.
 
I absolutely agree with that statement, however, reality is that there are alleys and areas that are not safe for anyone wearing anything. So I think that statement is unrealistic and currently, not possible until we make some changes

On that subject, I teach rape defense classes to women, free of charge. One of the things I teach is based upon a 1984 study by Morris stein and Betty Grayson, where they showed video of a busy intersection to rapists and other felons and asked them to pick targets. They were separated, but all chose the same victims. There were some less conservatively dressed women that were passed over because they seemed confident. Other more modestly dressed women were chosen because they seemed to have low confidence and were least likely to put up a fight.

However, with that in mind, wearing a bikini or a short skirt or heels would put the women at a tactical disadvantage because there is less ability to run(in heels) and easy access to the goods in a skirt or bikini.
 
A lot of things "should be" in an ideal world. Like girls being safe anywhere and Firefly being 9 seasons. Alas humans are assholes for the most part.
 
Should be, but I don't see why anyone would be doing it.

As a man, I don't feel like I should be walking in dark alleys half-naked, either. Not so much because of the danger, but because of general considerations towards other people and their comfort zone.

Keep your clothes on, unless you're in an environment where not wearing clothes is acceptable. It's not that difficult.
 
They should, but we can't trust men to be civilized.

And that my friends is why women should never go out in public alone and without a burqua.

It's kind of surprising just how similar these kind of arguments are to the ones that Islamist Immans make. 100 years ago people in the west were making the same arguments about why women shouldn't be going out by themselves without dresses below their knee's.
 
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