Death penalty for drug dealers? Trump approves.

you can release people that are locked up accidentally. you cant give them that time back, but you can make up for the mistake to some degree. how do you take back and execution, at all?

if executions led to crime deterrence, then the US wouldnt have the highest murder rate in the developed world. we're also the only developed country who still kills its citizens. this was the case before the appeals process drug out the execution process for years too.
Great point, however, as someone else mentioned earlier, why only lock up/execute people if it'll serve as a crime deterrent? Do it for justice!

As for your second point, it probably hasn't served as a great deterrent because how often do we actually execute someone? Maybe it'd be a solid deterrent if we didn't have hundreds, if not thousands, sitting on Death Row for DECADES.
 
There'll be a fucking French style revolution if he thinks he's going to rewrite the Bill of Rights.
And how are you planning on doing that without guns or militia to support that? You expecting law enforcement or the military to come to the rescue?
Maybe the UN will come to help ya.
 
He has no reason to lie, and if he ever was a drug fiend, you really think it would be hidden from the press for this long?

Sorry, but just because he wants drug dealers executed, you don't get to paint him as some coke fiend, so you can claim he's a hypocrite.
Actually there are rumors, hanging out at Studio 54 in the 70s, do the math.
 
that would me difficult to claim. we have no control group for crime rates without punishment of jail.

We have centuries of heinous crimes being committed with the threat of imprisonment and death. Neither have curbed heinous criminals from committing heinous crimes.

Doesn't mean that either method isn't a damn fine punishment, regardless. Which is my point. Why does it matter if the death PENALTY has deterred any crime? It's a punishment. If it doesn't deter anyone, that doesn't mean it shouldn't be enforced.
 
And how are you planning on doing that without guns or militia to support that? You expecting law enforcement or the military to come to the rescue?
Maybe the UN will come to help ya.
There would be an armed revolt the moment it was announced that the 2nd amendment had been effectively repealed, and like Ireland, there would be caches of weaponry stashed everywhere
 
Great point, however, as someone else mentioned earlier, why only lock up/execute people if it'll serve as a crime deterrent? Do it for justice!

why must someone die for justice? what happens if the family/government's desire for violent revenge on the accused results in the death of an innocent? does that make them guilty of manslaughter? why not?

As for your second point, it probably hasn't served as a great deterrent because how often do we actually execute someone? Maybe it'd be a solid deterrent if we didn't have hundreds, if not thousands, sitting on Death Row for DECADES.

even when we killed people, and lynched them, quickly, we still had an unusually high murder rate for a developed country.
 
We have centuries of heinous crimes being committed with the threat of imprisonment and death. Neither have curbed heinous criminals from committing heinous crimes.

you have to control group with which to claim this. have we ever had a time when criminals were not threatened with the possibility of prison/jail?

Doesn't mean that either method isn't a damn fine punishment, regardless. Which is my point. Why does it matter if the death PENALTY has deterred any crime? It's a punishment. If it doesn't deter anyone, that doesn't mean it shouldn't be enforced.

meh. what good is a punishment that just ends someone? they arent around to be punished.
 
However, I'm also certain innocent people have been locked up. Should we stop arresting people?


We should be finding ways to arrest a lot less of them not bolster the government to lock up and kill more people



Why are there so may people that seem to get really excited by the idea of bringing third world police state shit to our home ? You pass a law like that and its never the kingpins that get got they insulate themselves well and have an army of lawyers , or the pharma companies who are killin everyone they have government to back em up . You would get the old guy selling his pain meds to supplement his income and your kids friend in college that deals to the party kids and a whole buncha losers from the ghetto and trailer park . Its a great idea to kill drug dealers til you realize that drug dealers arent some nameless faceless entity lurking in the shadows or only in some other neighborhood they are people you know
 
why must someone die for justice? what happens if the family/government's desire for violent revenge on the accused results in the death of an innocent? does that make them guilty of manslaughter? why not?



even when we killed people, and lynched them, quickly, we still had an unusually high murder rate for a developed country.
Alright, Buddy, you're gonna have to start providing sources for all these assertions.
 
Alright, Buddy, you're gonna have to start providing sources for all these assertions.

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We kill more of our citizens than anyone for killing people. If executions are a deterrent, then we shouldnt see this.

and if you claim we should kill citizens just for the revenge of the victim's loved ones....im not sure thats a good motivation either.
 
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