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Democrats No Longer Pretending To Support Borders

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  1. GetTheseHands

    GetTheseHands 2 For 1 Deal Double Yellow Card

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    Progressive Democrats introduced a bill in the House Thursday that would shut down U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) within one year of enactment – part of a movement that has growing support but that's also getting criticized by moderate Democrats as well as Republicans.

    House Speaker Paul Ryan was incredulous: “They have really jumped the sharks on the left.”

    Rep. Mark Pocan, D-Wis., sponsored the legislation, along with Reps. Pramila Jayapal, D-Wash., and Adriano Espaillat D-N.Y., who are both themselves immigrants. All three have criticized the Trump administration’s “zero tolerance policy,” the immigration crackdown which has resulted in the separation of children and parents and the creation of makeshift tent cities and “tender age shelters” to house the recent influx of immigrants.

    The bill’s sponsors say they introduced the measure because they believe ICE is too corrupt to reform.

    The bill responds to a growing left-wing movement to abolish ICE, whose message has been amplified by Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, the Democratic Socialist candidate who gained national attention for her upset primary win in New York on a platform of economic and social justice.

    Both Republicans and skeptical Democrats have asked what would replace the agency, which, in addition to detaining and deporting undocumented immigrants, investigates criminal activity such as human smuggling and sex trafficking.

    https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/progressive-democrats-introduce-bill-abolish-ice/story?id=56537797









    You can't deport people who have been here for years, you can't deport people who just got here, you can't stop people from coming here who aren't here yet and now we need to get rid of immigration enforcement entirely...
     
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    HomerThompson Titanium Belt Platinum Member

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    Going back to INS and border patrol would work just fine. They're not calling for an end to policing the border.

    You thread title is lying garbage.
     
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    TheComebackKid Titanium Belt

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    The party of a open borders, gun control, high taxes, high regulation, trannies and bathrooms, racism, russian conspiracies, killing babies, and fuck the police lol. These people are legit insane.
     
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    lol shutting down ICE doesnt mean the elimination of borders or policing of borders :p
     
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    Even now, ICE doesn't patrol the borders. Crazy how dishonest the arguments here are.
     
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    Wait isn't that's ICE whole reason for existence lol? Em pretty high right now tho, so who knows maybe Im wrong.


    Anyways OP, plenty of democrats support borders, stop fucking lying because you saw one person express their opinion on TV.
     
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    Democrat for borders here.

    Democrat against lying piece of shit threadstarters in the WR here.
     
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    @HomerThompson

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    Jesus Christ this is bananas. Liberal protester screaming “You’re a ****** to the white man! You’re the white man’s ******!”
     
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    Rational Poster Scourge of the War Room

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    They're not dishonest, they're just stupid.

    It's different.

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    Some are one, and some are the other.
     
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    Not open borders maybe.

    However it looks like they support once you can get in you should get to stay even if you get or stay here illegaly.i

    So amnesty for everyone that makes it past border patrol.
     
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    Hey Struggle,

    Get back in here and defend your shit thread.
     
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    Based on what evidence have you come to this conclusion?
     
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    That's not what they're saying though. They want to abolish ICE, and start over with something that "works", and protects (illegal) immigrant families.

    "I believe we need to protect families that need help, and ICE isn't doing that. It has become a deportation force."

    Translation: No more deportations for illegals. Let them all stay.

    Whatever though. I await your unwavering support for it, when Dems go full retard and start literally calling for open borders.
     
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    By their words and actions.

    By the interdiction of this bill for example.
     
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    Wasnt ICE founded after 9/11 or something?

    How did borders worked back then?
     
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    You should change the title of the thread. Most people will equate ICE with CBP.
     
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    Oh, is that who @GetTheseHands is? I knew I smelled something stupid.
     
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    The title is correct, it's just focused on the wrong thing. The call to abolish ICE is not a call for open borders.

    The call for open borders is the "fix our broken immigration system".

    I listen to CNN and MSNBC when I commute and when I'm in the kitchen and I have heard nearly a dozen guests, some of whom are actual politicians talk about their thoughts on the immigration system and why it's broken.

    What it basically comes down to with them is that it is too hard to get citizenship and we need to make it easier. However, what you can tell they are intending is to put essentially no limits on who can come in. Obviously, they don't come out and say it directly, they are all smarter than that. But it's not difficult to see what they are pushing for. To them, the only "fair" immigration system is to let anyone willing to cross the border to be a citizen.

    Fuck that shit. I'm voting Trump again because of it. A billion people from 3rd world countries is not my idea of strengthening this country.
     

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