Did Elliot Rodger start a dark movement?

I blame internet porn. I think a lot of these guys are socially awkward because they grew up on internet porn and think they are expected to perform like that and thus they are scared as hell to have sex initially and then it becomes a huge issue that causes them to be more anxious and awkward around women. If you don't lose your virginity by late teens at the latest you're likely having sex with a much more experienced woman and you are going to be comparatively shit in bed and you know it. So you become more self-conscious and awkward, knowing you're going to be a bad lay that you try to over-compensate by really putting the woman you are fancying up on a pedestal and to women that is just weird and too try hard. Or these mid-20's types try to target younger (read teenaged) women who would be sexually inexperienced as they are - but the guys are shut down and seen as creepy.

I'd be willing to bet there is a lot of correlation between incels and early internet porn addiction.

Why not just practice the moves on escorts?

I with the opportunities of the internet, you can start a side business and get a cash flow coming your way and use it to practice the moves on escorts so you don't get tensed.

I mean what's with these guys not practicing their moves on women who do it for the money?

Because t.v. tells guys like him that if you're a loser with no social skills, a hot girl will bump into you, you'll drop your papers on the floor, lock eyes, and smile, and you'll live happily ever after.

He soon learned that in spite of how desirable you THINK you are, if you aren't out there putting in the work you're gonna be sitting with a bottle of lotion in front of your computer everyday. No one's gonna randomly walk up to you like on t.v.

He also had racist views there's always a correlation with that and those crazy shooters.

I couldn't agree more!

These guys think that real life is like the movies with the nerd getting the girl and her virginity. Like real life is twisted as fuck and it is painful.
 
i know some dudes who never get laid, and they arent murderers. this dude and eliot rogeres were just pieces of human shit, tahts it why they didnt get laid. as far as looks go both of them could have easily landed some snizz, but their perwsonalities are and were probably attrocuis

Yes and no, Elliot Rodgers could have easily gotten laid if he knew what to do. But this guy looks like shit! He is 25 years old and already looks like he could be a grandfather.

Elliot had it all, good looks, money, status, first class trip provided by rich parents. This guy was very unfortunate in the genetics department. In few short years, he went from:


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Dude you're not though. When they see your war room likes count you're so in.
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Yeah, for the first time in recorded history, women (in the first world at least) have the choice NOT to marry an inept guy like that.

For women, it's not about placing oneself on a pedestal and saying no to a 'lesser' guy, it's saying no to a lifetime of domestic abuse and all manner of creepiness and craziness.

Same reason Japanese women more and more opt out of traditional marriage, for anyone who was wondering about Japan.

great points but people like elliot and the guy in toronto, they had choices. the choice for self improvement in all aspects of their life and improve their worth, or the choice to LDAR. by improving themselves, they could have made themselves more marketable to women. instead, they LDAR'd and decided to take it out on the innocent
 
The "Supreme Gentleman" Elliot Rodger refers to men who get women "Chad's" and women who reject men such as himself "Stacies"

I wonder what name he would have come up with for his own group of social rejects. "Bort" sounds fitting.
 
'Old dude with lame comment' crew checking in. Growing up we all heard the stupid advice - the best revenge (after a relationship breakdown or rejection) is living well.

It's true.

Most westerners have the ability to better themselves and make themselves desirable to the opposite sex. Most are too stupid or just plain lazy to do it. It's so much easier to sit around and mope like a fucking victim and sadly there are places on the internet that enable the bullshit.

This place sometimes looks like a gateway for some of these extreme views, if we're being honest.
 
Yes and no, Elliot Rodgers could have easily gotten laid if he knew what to do. But this guy looks like shit! He is 25 years old and already looks like he could be a grandfather.

Elliot had it all, good looks, money, status, first class trip provided by rich parents. This guy was very unfortunate in the genetics department. In few short years, he went from:


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Unless he shrank to 5 foot 2 I don't see the problem.
 
what I'm talking about is pre-agricultural paleolithic period. Before history and writing. Things were VERY different back then and only with the advent of agriculture did humans defy our biological impulses and settle down with a mate and create families.

And that period is where 90% of male lines vanished because they could not secure mates.

Lionesses too live longer and leave more heirs than male lions because only a tiny percent of them can control a pride. And even then, their reigns are 2-3 years at most.

In terms of reproduction, yes, a successful male has it better than any female. But all females are better off than 99% of males because their genes will survive.

what is this childish "putting women on a pedestal" shit? Life isnt a redpill meme. The mathematics of biology simply make eggs more valuable than sperm.

You seem very well-versed in those topics. Where do you get your information (not related to this post specifically)?
 
People are encouraged to have the courage of their convictions when they find others that believe the same.

The Internet is providing that for them.



It is also providing us with the knowledge of such events when they happen. So a little of column A, little of column B.
 
I have a theory that apps like tinder are inflating women's ego and sexual market value and has caused an even higher upward distribution of women to top tier men and that this has put a squeeze on men of average and low attractiveness/desirability.

That reminded me of that study that found that women think 80% of men are below average looks-wise
 
Yeah, for the first time in recorded history, women (in the first world at least) have the choice NOT to marry an inept guy like that.

For women, it's not about placing oneself on a pedestal and saying no to a 'lesser' guy, it's saying no to a lifetime of domestic abuse and all manner of creepiness and craziness.

Same reason Japanese women more and more opt out of traditional marriage, for anyone who was wondering about Japan.

Woah woah woah there, easy. What recorded history shows us is that in the vast majority if cases women do indeed have choice in who they marry. The marriage as business model is a relatively new one and even in societies where men make the arrangements, the daughters wishes are often central.

If anything one could argue that the rise of single motherhood is related to the reduction of options for lame men,
 
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