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Corporate Media’s About-Face on Ukraine’s Neo-Nazis
July 5, 2018 • 97 Comments


U.S. corporate media spent years dismissing the role of neo-Nazis in Ukraine’s 2014 coup but it is suddenly going through a conversion, as Daniel Lazare reports.

By Daniel Lazare
Special to Consortium News

Last month a freelance journalist named Joshua Cohen published an article in The Washington Post about the Ukraine’s growing neo-Nazi threat. Despite a gratuitous swipe at Russia for allegedly exaggerating the problem (which it hasn’t), the piece was fairly accurate.

Entitled “Ukraine’s ultra-right militias are challenging the government to a showdown,” it said that fascists have gone on a rampage while the ruling clique in Kiev closes its eyes for the most part and prays that the problem somehow goes away on its own.

Thus, a group calling itself C14 (for the fourteen-word ultra-right motto, “We must secure the existence of our people and a future for white children”) not only beat up a socialist politician and celebrated Hitler’s birthday by stabbing an antiwar activist, but bragged about it on its website. Other ultra-nationalists, Cohen says, have stormed the Lvov and Kiev city councils and “assaulted or disrupted” art exhibits, anti-fascist demos, peace and gay-rights events, and a Victory Day parade commemorating the victory over Hitler in 1945.

Yet nothing has happened to stop this. President Petro Poroshenko could order a crackdown, but hasn’t for reasons that should be obvious. The U.S.-backed “Euromaidan” uprising not only drove out former president Viktor Yanukovych in February 2014, who had won an OSCE-certified election, but tore the country in two, precisely because ultra-rightists like C14 were in the lead.

When resistance to the U.S.-backed coup broke out in Crimea and parts of the country’s largely Russian-speaking east, the base of Yanukovych voters, civil war ensued. But because the Ukrainian army had all but collapsed, the new, coup government had no one to rely on other than the neo-fascists who had helped propel it to power.

So an alliance was hatched between pro-western oligarchs at the top – Forbes puts Poroshenko’s net worth at a cool $1 billion – and neo-Nazi enforcers at the bottom. Fascists may not be popular. Indeed, Dmytro Yarosh, the fire-breathing leader of a white-power coalition known as Right Sector, received less than one percent of the vote when he ran for president in May 2014.

But the state is so weak and riddled with so many ultra-rightists in key positions – Andriy Parubiy, founder of the neo-Nazi Social-National Party of Ukraine, is speaker of the parliament, while ultra-rightist Arsen Avakov is minister of the interior – that the path before them is clear and unobstructed. As Cohen points out, the result is government passivity on one hand and a rising tide of ultra-right violence on the other. In the earlier stages of the civil war, for instance, the rightwing extremists burned more than 40 people alive in a labor union building in Odessa, a horrific incident downplayed by Western media.

https://consortiumnews.com/2018/07/05/corporate-medias-about-face-on-ukraines-neo-nazis/

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So let me be clear here. I see this like choosing between Assad, or ISIS. It isn't that I am a particular fan of Assad, it is just that it is insane to support ISIS being in charge of anything, and that was the choice, Assad or ISIS.

This to me is the exact same situation.

Do I support Putin, or neo-nazis?

Well, I reluctently support Putin.

Put all the BS to the side. The Crimea is Russian, and Democratic vote stuff is non-sense. Russia "liberated" Crimea for it's own strategic interests which have nothing to do with the actual people there.

But now there is a clear choice here. Do we want Putin or Neo-Nazi's running the Ukraine?

I personally choose Putin, if those are my choices, and they are.

Discuss........
 
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I agree. Not at all a fan of National Socialism. Or Social-Nationalism in this case I guess
 
There aren't neo-nazis everywhere. They certainly are no real threat as their heroes were. And we really need to stop fucking around with other peoples' countries and governments.
 
Just came back from Kiev... my favorite city.

Anyway one does not have to chose between Putin and Nazis. But right wingers in Kiev are the best people to defeat corruption. If they would start to fight the Ukrainian government I would support them.

Ps: Right sector are not Really nazis. They actually have Jews and Russians in their ranks.
 
the rightwing extremists burned more than 40 people alive in a labor union building in Odessa, a horrific incident downplayed by Western media.

 
the rightwing extremists burned more than 40 people alive in a labor union building in Odessa, a horrific incident downplayed by Western media.


Maybe you should read about the event it is not as black and white as you think.
But yeah the way western media treated the event was disgusting.
 
Maybe you should read about the event it is not as black and white as you think.
But yeah the way western media treated the event was disgusting.

Could you elaborate or point me in the direction of informative sources?
My interpretation of this event at the time was, I imagine, very similar to Viva's.
 
Viva, you tease Putin's dick so cruelly.
 
Don't worry I'm sure Antifa will take care of this, punch those Nazis right in the nose.
 
lol Crimea is not going back to Ukraine, no matter how much the West huffs and puffs about it.
 
Just came back from Kiev... my favorite city.

Anyway one does not have to chose between Putin and Nazis. But right wingers in Kiev are the best people to defeat corruption. If they would start to fight the Ukrainian government I would support them.

Ps: Right sector are not Really nazis. They actually have Jews and Russians in their ranks.

lol be honest its the 10$ pussy that is your real favorite.
 
WTF the Untermenschen are Nazis now?
Wenn das der führer wüßte!!!

Some people seem to forget quickly what side of the ovens they would have been on.

SAD.
 
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Could you elaborate or point me in the direction of informative sources?
My interpretation of this event at the time was, I imagine, very similar to Viva's.

Basically Odessa was on the way to be Donbass 2.0
There was violence on both sides, one side just went a step further.

lol be honest its the 10$ pussy that is your real favorite.

Yeah Kiev is now the Bankok of Europe. It's sad. I actually love the city, was there with my wife don't need a 10 USD vagina.

WTF the Untermenschen are Nazis now?
Wenn das der führer wüßte!!!

Some people seem to forget quickly what side of the ovens they would have been on.

SAD.

Ukrainians were on your side... how dare you!
 
Lol Crimea ain't going nowhere. Its safely in Russias hands.
 
I thought Putin took the Crimea. How Neo-Nazis going to rise with Putin there?
 
Ukraine's Prime Minister is Jewish and the chief of police is Armenian, I hope you and your "news" are aware of that
 
New leader is super corrupt. The new government is more corrupt tham the one deposed. Everyone knows it as welll.

Thanks for mentioning the crime of burning 40 people alive. That really kicked off the civil war. Who knew people don't like their votes being thrown in the trash and then pissed on. Then when they complain they get burnt alive.

The azov battalion is made up of literal nazis. I agree with poster that the super right wing would actually clean up the government there though.

Crimea went to Russia without a shot fired. Everyone think about that and then think of the nature of the conflict and who lives where
 
the rightwing extremists burned more than 40 people alive in a labor union building in Odessa, a horrific incident downplayed by Western media.


How about posting some sources?
Now, we have Marxists that have murdered around 100 million...

Corporate Media’s About-Face on Ukraine’s Neo-Nazis
July 5, 2018 • 97 Comments


U.S. corporate media spent years dismissing the role of neo-Nazis in Ukraine’s 2014 coup but it is suddenly going through a conversion, as Daniel Lazare reports.

By Daniel Lazare
Special to Consortium News

Last month a freelance journalist named Joshua Cohen published an article in The Washington Post about the Ukraine’s growing neo-Nazi threat. Despite a gratuitous swipe at Russia for allegedly exaggerating the problem (which it hasn’t), the piece was fairly accurate.

Entitled “Ukraine’s ultra-right militias are challenging the government to a showdown,” it said that fascists have gone on a rampage while the ruling clique in Kiev closes its eyes for the most part and prays that the problem somehow goes away on its own.

Thus, a group calling itself C14 (for the fourteen-word ultra-right motto, “We must secure the existence of our people and a future for white children”) not only beat up a socialist politician and celebrated Hitler’s birthday by stabbing an antiwar activist, but bragged about it on its website. Other ultra-nationalists, Cohen says, have stormed the Lvov and Kiev city councils and “assaulted or disrupted” art exhibits, anti-fascist demos, peace and gay-rights events, and a Victory Day parade commemorating the victory over Hitler in 1945.

Yet nothing has happened to stop this. President Petro Poroshenko could order a crackdown, but hasn’t for reasons that should be obvious. The U.S.-backed “Euromaidan” uprising not only drove out former president Viktor Yanukovych in February 2014, who had won an OSCE-certified election, but tore the country in two, precisely because ultra-rightists like C14 were in the lead.

When resistance to the U.S.-backed coup broke out in Crimea and parts of the country’s largely Russian-speaking east, the base of Yanukovych voters, civil war ensued. But because the Ukrainian army had all but collapsed, the new, coup government had no one to rely on other than the neo-fascists who had helped propel it to power.

So an alliance was hatched between pro-western oligarchs at the top – Forbes puts Poroshenko’s net worth at a cool $1 billion – and neo-Nazi enforcers at the bottom. Fascists may not be popular. Indeed, Dmytro Yarosh, the fire-breathing leader of a white-power coalition known as Right Sector, received less than one percent of the vote when he ran for president in May 2014.

But the state is so weak and riddled with so many ultra-rightists in key positions – Andriy Parubiy, founder of the neo-Nazi Social-National Party of Ukraine, is speaker of the parliament, while ultra-rightist Arsen Avakov is minister of the interior – that the path before them is clear and unobstructed. As Cohen points out, the result is government passivity on one hand and a rising tide of ultra-right violence on the other. In the earlier stages of the civil war, for instance, the rightwing extremists burned more than 40 people alive in a labor union building in Odessa, a horrific incident downplayed by Western media.

https://consortiumnews.com/2018/07/05/corporate-medias-about-face-on-ukraines-neo-nazis/

_______________________________________________

So let me be clear here. I see this like choosing between Assad, or ISIS. It isn't that I am a particular fan of Assad, it is just that it is insane to support ISIS being in charge of anything, and that was the choice, Assad or ISIS.

This to me is the exact same situation.

Do I support Putin, or neo-nazis?

Well, I reluctently support Putin.

Put all the BS to the side. The Crimea is Russian, and Democratic vote stuff is non-sense. Russia "liberated" Crimea for it's own strategic interests which have nothing to do with the actual people there.

But now there is a clear choice here. Do we want Putin or Neo-Nazi's running the Ukraine?

I personally choose Putin, if those are my choices, and they are.

Discuss........

Do you have a legitimate link? I mean, would you accept Breitbart? Because that is the level of WP.
 
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