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Edgar is used to itWTF? How is this a fair fight. Looks like a man vs a child. Is Edgar even gonna be able to reach his opponents chin?
Edgar is used to itWTF? How is this a fair fight. Looks like a man vs a child. Is Edgar even gonna be able to reach his opponents chin?
You realize that frankie spent a lot of his career outgrappling elite BJJ guys and good wrestlers, the majority of whom were taller and bigger than frankie, right?
They aren't but Edgar still gets dwarfed bad.Fuck it. Are these real proportions? At first glance I thought they put Jon Jones next to Edgar.
I don't see him landing the better strikes on the feet to win a decision. i don't think he'll be able to get and keep max down enough to win a decision. but i don't know. Frankie murdered Yair, but Yair is a few steps behind max.Or he wins that decision. Frankie is pace guy and he can rack up points quick
I don't see him landing the better strikes on the feet to win a decision. i don't think he'll be able to get and keep max down enough to win a decision. but i don't know. Frankie murdered Yair, but Yair is a few steps behind max.
The post i replied to had one point. You later added several caveats and cop outs, aka moving the goal post, in order to save face after I proved your point to be moot in the case of frankie Edgar. I don't follow people once they change their arguments and add caveats.
It isn't at all. Being taller in grappling exchanges provides just as many benefits as it would standing. Have you ever tried shooting in on someone taller than you compared to someone who is shorter than you? That's not to mention the advantages that he already has from being larger or heavier in general. And keep in mind he doesn't have to be a better grappler than Frankie to do well. He just has to keep him off, which requires considerably less skill. This is the comment someone would make or like if they've never grappled in their life.
Either they're smaller than Max, have lesser TDD, weren't afraid to go there, were wrestlers themselves, or some combination of the four. And again, this doesn't disprove the advantage being there at all. Because Frankie has overcome a certain obstacle in the past doesn't make it not an obstacle. I'm sure he would have had an easier time if these opponents were smaller.
being shorter is definitely a advantage if you're ontop taller guys can play a better guard.
Also there's many takedowns which work better on taller fighters then guys who are shorter with lower hips, can't generalize and say " you ever shot on a tall guy" because everybody's leverages and strengths are different.
Frankie's not too short "to do anything with max on the ground" only someone who's never grappled would say that.
You may fit that description
Aldo has incredible take down defense which counters Frankie’s style well. Can’t say the same about the guy who hasn’t really been tested in the wrestling department since the mcgregor fight which is saying something.I actually think Holloway will dominate him and put Edgar away. Seeing how easy it was for Aldo to counter him, I see Holloway doing the same, but hurt him more and keep him at the range.
Edgar is good, but Holloway should win pretty handily.
Of course there are exceptions. But generally speaking, being tall is an advantage in every area a fight can take place in, especially when the difference is as large as it is between Frankie and Max.
"Frankie being too short to do anything with Max on the ground" was not my point at all. If it gets to the ground, all things considered, Edgar should be able to make up for the disparity in physical attributes with his skill. My thing is, it won't get there. Why? Not necessarily because Max is anymore skilled than Edgar's other opponents technique wise in defending takedowns (although you could argue he is). But because he's longer, larger and rangier - and on top of that has the footwork to keep Edgar out of the position he likes to shoot from.
Edgar is going to get picked apart imo.
It's that for sure. Gonna be very interesting to see.That' why it' an amazing fight