Francis Ford Copolla - great director or not?

Gotardo J. said:
overrated. hes best movie is apocalypso now, solid start but then the movie starts to falling quickly and crashes hard. never finished the movie. godfather is for wannabes. off the top of my head i could probably name 15 better directors.
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Enlighten us all then please.
 
definitely bang his daughter doe, Sofia Copolla would get it
 
Gotardo J. said:
overrated. hes best movie is apocalypso now, solid start but then the movie starts to falling quickly and crashes hard. never finished the movie. godfather is for wannabes. off the top of my head i could probably name 15 better directors.
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gotardo is italian for go full retard
 
Copolla has done the best remake of Bram Stoker's Dracula. He opted to use optical effects which in the 90s many were using digital effects since Industrial Light and Magic could easily offer it since Star Wars.
 
GolovkinGOAT said:
Copolla has done the best remake of Bram Stoker's Dracula. He opted to use optical effects which in the 90s many were using digital effects since Industrial Light and Magic could easily offer it since Star Wars.
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it does definitely have that going for it I'd agree, looks a lot better than a lot of blockbusters made in that kind of era or shortly afterwards.

I would argue he was really the big name most hurt by the shift to blockbuster cinema, some other new Hollywood era directors successfully shifted across but his attempts just ended up being pretty bland, not actually bad but you wouldn't really know a great director was making Mary Sue Got Married. A lot of those films I suspect he was doing either to fund his own projects like Rumblefish or Dracula or to get funding for films he was producing.
 
Apocalypse now is his only artful film that I've seen imo. I enjoyed the first two god fathers tho.
 
I mean- you could call him great on the basis of 4 movies alone- The Godfather, Godfather Part II, Apocalypse Now, and The Conversation- three of which are absolute classics of American cinema and the fourth of which is a very ahead-of-its-time, creepy, intelligent thriller.

His three most-loved films give him cachet for life and basically give him a better canon than the vast majority of filmmakers of the past fifty years. Guys like Spielberg and Scorsese surpassed him with many good to great films over longer spans of time but Coppola is legit.

Any subsequent missteps (and there were certainly those) do not negate the achievements.
 
mrsenor said:
sofia coppola
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Holy hell! I remember how much I fancied her in godfather 3!! Didn't realise they were related.

Hope she was legal during that movie cos I fancied her rotten! Bit similar looking to Dua Lipa.
 
JabToucher said:
Holy hell! I remember how much I fancied her in godfather 3!! Didn't realise they were related.

Hope she was legal during that movie cos I fancied her rotten! Bit similar looking to Dua Lipa.
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Nick Cage is his nephew as well not nepotism has its positives.
 
Godfather 1 & 2 are both considered top 5 films of all time and he made Apocalypse Now as well. Of course he is great. This is almost as dumb as the Steven Spielberg is overrated thread a few months back.
 
JabToucher said:
Thanks. It was harder to fap to him though.
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Diane Lane is his niece three times removed.

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moreorless87 said:
it does definitely have that going for it I'd agree, looks a lot better than a lot of blockbusters made in that kind of era or shortly afterwards.

I would argue he was really the big name most hurt by the shift to blockbuster cinema, some other new Hollywood era directors successfully shifted across but his attempts just ended up being pretty bland, not actually bad but you wouldn't really know a great director was making Mary Sue Got Married. A lot of those films I suspect he was doing either to fund his own projects like Rumblefish or Dracula or to get funding for films he was producing.
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Peggy Sue ain’t a bad flick. Man I remember that from back in the day. Makes sense only with family oriented films could Nicholas “Cage” do some decent roles. In fact in some styles is where Cage does surprisingly well for his type cast.

Preferably I would like to have seen Cage in porn fantasies banging big bubbly black women and Sofia Coppola plays the detective. I think Francis would have grea camera angles and excellent lens choices.
 
GolovkinGOAT said:
Peggy Sue ain’t a bad flick. Man I remember that from back in the day. Makes sense only with family oriented films could Nicholas “Cage” do some decent roles. In fact in some styles is where Cage does surprisingly well for his type cast.

Preferably I would like to have seen Cage in porn fantasies banging big bubbly black women and Sofia Coppola plays the detective. I think Francis would have grea camera angles and excellent lens choices.
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Yeah I said I didn't think it was bad(although I'v not seen it in along time) but equally it doesn't feel like a film made by a great director to me, just a competent take a a decent comedy drama script. You compare that to say Ridley Scott and whilst his films did become more straight forward by the late 80's I would say there was still a bit more of a sense of ambition to them where as Coppola by the 80's onwards seemed to turn that off and on more. Without his name of the credits I would not have guessed his involvement in that kind of film were as something like say Black Rain I could guess Scotts involvement.
 
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Gotardo J. said:
hes best movie is apocalypso now
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Damn. Now I kinda want to see a movie where Marlon Brando ritualistically sacrifices people atop a Mayan pyramid while Dennis Hopper dances around spouting gibberish
 
Seriously? His list is insane
 
You could add as well that he co-wrote Patton and supposedly had a significant influence on the director for example convincing him that the opening scene would work.

 
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