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so basically the point of all these articles is that merkel is evil because she let all these unwashed brown people into the country, but she will not lose an election because majority of people are something something democracy is fail something something
if regular people in germany were so mad about this immigration crisis they would vote her out with a quickness, whatever you do in a voting booth is private, may be this 'crisis' is not as big as it seems?
if regular people in germany were so mad about this immigration crisis they would vote her out with a quickness, whatever you do in a voting booth is private, may be this 'crisis' is not as big as it seems?
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Who knows probably rigged but when terrorists lay a smackddown on Germany ala Vegas or Beslan style and it turns out to be one of those unwashed brown people perhaps your smug attitude will change.
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This just seems like Theresa May 2.0
Merkel's lost a very significant amount of support since 2015, and I don't think people will flock to her in greater numbers now. A lack of leadership on her part is being blamed for the failure to form a government. If she calls for new elections, it may be best to resign and let someone else take the reigns.
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Its a bit early to make predictions. But this has the handwriting of Merkel written all over.
Merkel's political strategy was always. Ignoring and waiting so that when its time for a decision there is only one action possible without her looking wrong for doing it. She is trying the same here.
I bet the outcome here will be either a CDU/FDP coalition (ideal for Merkel) or a CDU/SPD (not bad for her).
She wanted to form a great coalition with the SPD again anyway. If she was serious about a coalition with the Green Party she could have just offered the FDP more to agree to it.
She had the power because the CDU has most of the seats in a CDU/Green/FDP coalition.
I think she is speculating on either this will bring the SPD to form a coalition again now. Or she will get enough votes back with a turn to the right to get the preferred CDU/FDP coalition.
Also, the SPD will be forced to form a coalition after the next vote. Because Merkel will just say she is willing to make a coalition with anyone.
And I have not voted for her and won't vote if there is a new vote. But people underestimated what skilled political player Merkel is.
She can play the game with the best. As the 2015 migrant crisis has shown. Letting them int was a political move from Merkel.
Because not letting them in would have opened her from the left with the possibility to actually lose the election. But there is no credible thread on the right.
And she was able to pull that purely political move off. Without people criticising it for it. They criticise her for the wrong decision but not for the strictly political motive behind it.
It possible she has to resign over this, but that's very slim.
My feeling tells me at the end of all this Merkel will be the winner. The other people just don't have the same political skills.
they'll get rid of schulz now and form a big coalition again. that's her move behind the failed talks with the fdp/green.
also i wouldn't say she is that skilled, but she can simply play the dumb voter of germany.
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Germany’s deeply divided Social Democrats are starting to face up to political reality.
Confronted with a crucial vote this weekend on whether to enter formal coalition talks with Angela Merkel’s bloc or cast themselves into the wilderness to rebuild the party, many SPD members are coming to the conclusion that a return to government carries the lesser risk.
Senior party officials said the option of spending another four years governing with Merkel in a so-called grand coalition poses less of an existential threat than the most likely alternative: a snap election that polls suggest could see the SPD vote drop from a postwar low, cost the party its leadership and extend Germany’s political stalemate to all Europe.
“Of course there’s big resistance to a grand coalition, since the SPD emerged weakened each time,” said Hans Eichel, German finance minister from 1999 to 2005 under then-Chancellor Gerhard Schroeder. Europe faces a crucial year and the party “needs to enter into a grand coalition” in order to move forward the reform agenda with French President Emmanuel Macron, Eichel said in an interview.
After securing a 28-page draft in marathon exploratory talks last week, Social Democratic leader Martin Schulz is crisscrossing the country to shore up support to move on to formal negotiations on a common platform for government. Six-hundred SPD delegates from Germany’s 16 states will gather on Sunday in the former capital Bonn for the vote, with the party’s youth organization leading calls to oppose another term with Merkel’s Christian Democratic Union-led bloc.
All states have divisions over the party’s direction, but the key swing votes will come down to the membership-heavy western German industrial states of North-Rhine Westphalia, Baden-Wuerttemberg and Bavaria, according to Axel Schaefer, a former SPD deputy caucus leader in the lower house of parliament who now speaks on European affairs.
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/arti...dium=social&cmpid==socialflow-facebook-brexit
