International Germany's Multicultural Experiment: 45% of Migrants Failed German Integration Courses

Europe's experiment with "Multiculturalism" rather than adopting North America's "Melting Pot" is...

  • Destined to succeed eventually! Do not give up!!!

    Votes: 18 6.3%

  • Doomed to fail from the start! Shut it down now!!!

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covenant said:
bit worried germans might vote in nazis so its best she doesnt run again ?

remember how i said bavaria will be the first to go.....
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What Nazis?
It's a play ground invented by AMERICAN people.
 
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Cologne takes a stand against deportation
16.09.2018

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Some 12,000 people took to the streets in Cologne, Dortmund and Gelsenkirchen on Sunday to demand the German government cease deportations to countries like Iraq and Afghanistan.

Opponents of the policy say both nations are too dangerous for individuals to be deported to, and that they should be allowed to stay in Germany instead.

Cologne's conservative mayor Henriette Reker, who was famously stabbed by an anti-immigration extremist, was among those who took part in the "Cologne takes a stand!" demonstration.

The marchers also wanted to protest racism and xenophobia in the wake of right-wing violence in the eastern city of Chemnitz earlier in September.

Their signs bore slogans such as "sea rescues are a duty," and "nationalism is a mistake."

The decision by the German government to declare parts of conflict-ridden nations like Aghanistan "safe countries of origin," has proven extremely controversial. This was most recently highlighted by the case of an Afghan man committing suicide upon return to Kabul, one day after conservative Interior Minister Horst Seehofer bragged about having carried out 69 deportations in time for his 69th birthday.

Germans also often protest at airports ahead of deportations being carried out.

"Cologne takes a stand!" was less of a tense political standoff, and more the air of a community festival, in keeping with the peaceful message of the demonstration.

https://www.dw.com/en/cologne-takes-a-stand-against-deportation/a-45511596
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LOL at fucking Cologne of all places to still being this level of cuck
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Year's_Eve_sexual_assaults_in_Germany
 
Arkain2K said:
Germans upbeat about immigration, study finds
Sept 17, 2018​

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Despite gloomy headlines about the asylum policy debate, a majority view life with their immigrant and non-immigrant neighbors positively. The study still noted an East-West split, as well as a divide on headscarves.

People living in Germany continue to view the country's multicultural society positively, according to a new study published by the Expert Council of German Foundations on Integration and Migration (SVR).

The "Integration Barometer 2018" is the first representative study on the matter to come out since the start of the so-called refugee crisis in 2015, which saw hundreds of thousands of people escaping war and poverty in their home countries enter Europe.

Despite refugees and immigration policy dominating the news and politician's speaking points in Germany, the study found that most people still think that life with their immigrant or non-immigrant neighbors is going well.

Main takeaways

  • Some 63.8 percent of local Germans — people described as not having an immigrant background — view the integration situation positively, down marginally from the 65.4 percent logged in 2015. Residents with immigrant backgrounds viewed the integration situation even more positively, rating it at 68.9 percent.
  • The study found a particular divide between the eastern and western states, with 66 percent of western Germans satisfied with the status of immigration, while eastern Germans rated it at 55 percent.
  • The study found that areas where fewer migrants live, such as in the eastern German states, there are more reservations about immigration and integration.
  • Men viewed the status of integration in Germany more negatively than women.

Solution to tensions in education

Researchers noted that skepticism about immigrants can be overcome by having more "personal encounters."

"The everyday experiences are significantly better than what the [media] discourse would suggest," researchers wrote in the study.

Germany's integration commissioner, Annette Widmann-Mauz, said the study's results were "a good sign" and that it's important to support schools and other places where people have more opportunities to come into contact with their neighbors. She noted that the attitudes about integration are most positive "wherever there are direct contacts in the neighborhoods, among friends or at work."

Majority want to help refugees

Attitudes towards refugees were largely positive from both people with and without immigrant backgrounds in Germany. Around 60 percent of local Germans support continuing to take in refugees, also if Germany were the only country accepting asylum-seekers in the European Union. However, a majority of them also want to curb refugee arrivals.

Split on headscarf bans

Around 80 percent of Muslims questioned in the study supported women and girls being allowed to wear headscarves to school. Only 41 percent of Christians, on the other hand, thought that headscarves should be allowed in schools. Local Germans were more open to allowing headscarves in public authorities, with 52 percent backing the idea.

Muslim women living in Germany were specifically asked in the SVR study about their opinions on headscarf bans. Out of the 29 percent of women who said they wear a head covering, a majority backed measures for them to be allowed at school and public authorities. Around 66 percent of Muslim women who don't wear head coverings said they should be allowed.

https://www.dw.com/en/germans-upbeat-about-immigration-study-finds/a-45519655
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so now germans are upbeat. since when are those krauts upbeat about anything.

germans still havent addressed family reunification laws when it comes to the untold number of refugees they actually let in.
 
covenant said:
so now germans are upbeat. since when are those krauts upbeat about anything.

germans still havent addressed family reunification laws when it comes to the untold number of refugees they actually let in.
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I always hear globalists saying that "old Europe" needs young blood , but then they go and let in loads of older third world immigrants.
Confirmation its nothing more than state sponsored population replacement .

as for these clowns protesting!
imagine protesting something that is not even happening. Their corrupt government are more interested in punishing / cracking down on Germans who protest against violence by immigrants..
branding them "nazi's" .
 
I guess the people not liking the rape and killings are sour krauts
 
From the land that gave us shit-eating porn.

Germany, you are forgiven. Stop hurting yourself to show remorse.
 
You can tell these people are badly brainwashed. Look at the leftist posters in the war room from all over the world. They all act and think exactly alike. There are millions of people brainwashed with the leftist ideology in multiple countries. All carbon copy drones.

Seriously lol at thinking there can be integration with mass immigration. The Turks haven't even integrated yet. No where in the world is there integration with mass immigration.
 
Mutti Merkel's influence is getting weaker and weaker...

Merkel Ally Loses Vote as Lawmakers Push Back
Leader’s right hand fails to regain leadership of conservatives in parliament

BERLIN—Angela Merkel’s grip on power took a severe blow on Tuesday when her party’s lawmakers ousted a close ally of the German chancellor as their parliamentary leader and replaced him with a candidate she had refused to endorse.

The affront—Ms. Merkel’s protégé had been the conservatives’ parliamentary floor leader for all 13 years of her successive terms—is the latest and most telling sign of the erosion in the chancellor’s authority since she delivered her party’s worst performance in seven decades at last year’s general election.

Volker Kauder, who was voted out as leader of Ms. Merkel’s conservative bloc in parliament, had been a key instrument of the chancellor’s rule. Appointed a day before she first became chancellor in 2005, he was responsible for marshaling majorities ahead of important legislative votes and defusing rebellions among conservative lawmakers, including over the bailouts of Greece during the eurozone crisis and the chancellor’s open-door refugee policy of 2015-16.

As the chancellor shifted toward the center after her first successful election, abolishing compulsory military service, accelerating a phaseout of nuclear power, lowering retirement age for some workers and paving the way for same-sex marriages, Mr. Kauder was the man to keep her troops in line.

“Merkel’s power basis is melting away and she is severely weakened,” said Thorsten Benner, director of the Global Public Policy Institute, a leading Berlin-based political think tank. “Legislators clearly no longer want to be silent supporters of Merkel’s agenda and they have decided to end the consensus.”
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https://www.wsj.com/articles/merkel-ally-loses-vote-as-lawmakers-push-back-1537890501
 
Son of Jamin said:
Mutti Merkel's influence is getting weaker and weaker...



https://www.wsj.com/articles/merkel-ally-loses-vote-as-lawmakers-push-back-1537890501
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That's another reason why you need term limits. Merkel has been in power so long that her decisions in her 4th term now become a farce.
Too many bridges burned and political opponents silence that it becomes very stale.

That also applies to Europe. Where can Merkel still go now and start something new?
And that is not really due to the political decisions she has made. Most of those were 50:50 issue.
If she would have closed the borders there would be people blaming her for that.
Or if she would have Greece get bankrupt there would have been as many people criticising her for that decision that are now criticising her for rescuing it.

Many of EU decisions are 50:50. No matter what decisions you take you will have people disliking it.
Now to start a new course you would need a fresh German leader that still has political capital.
After 14 years of difficult decisions that is simply gone.

Especially in Germany. Because German people don't like change. Merkel would probably win another term if she runs again.
Also in her defense, she has done a lot of good as well.
 
snakedafunky said:
That's another reason why you need term limits. Merkel has been in power so long that her decisions in her 4th term now become a farce.
Too many bridges burned and political opponents silence that it becomes very stale.

That also applies to Europe. Where can Merkel still go now and start something new?
And that is not really due to the political decisions she has made. Most of those were 50:50 issue.
If she would have closed the borders there would be people blaming her for that.
Or if she would have Greece get bankrupt there would have been as many people criticising her for that decision that are now criticising her for rescuing it.

Many of EU decisions are 50:50. No matter what decisions you take you will have people disliking it.
Now to start a new course you would need a fresh German leader that still has political capital.
After 14 years of difficult decisions that is simply gone.

Especially in Germany. Because German people don't like change. Merkel would probably win another term if she runs again.
Also in her defense, she has done a lot of good as well.
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I'd have to admit, I finds the patience that the German people have for Merkel to be extraordinary.

Any other world leader would have already resigned or lose their job after Cologne's New Year Countdown 2016.
 
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Germany's CSU and CDU want 'values' taught to refugee children in schools
07.05.2018

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German conservatives are set to push for new lessons that would teach both German language and values to children of refugees, the Rheinische Post newspaper reported in its Monday edition.

According to the report, senior lawmakers from the ruling CDU and CSU parties have prepared a draft document on the so-called "values lessons" in schools. The children would learn about issues such as the rule of law, gender equality, and the state monopoly on the use of force.

"The integration of those who can stay in Germany is a priority issue, not least in order to preserve peace in our society," says the draft report cited by the paper. "The goal of these lessons should be to allow refugees to learn about our values and the rule of law, and, at the same time, teach them the limits and duties of our legal system."

The paper is due to be presented in Frankfurt on Monday, where the heads of the parliamentary groups of the CSU and CDU in Germany's state and federal legislatures are set to meet.

German Chancellor Angela Merkel is also expected to attend.

Values over culture and religion

The values to be discussed in the proposed classes, such as gender equality, press freedom, and protection of human dignity should "stand as indispensable values above divergent cultural or religious views," the draft says.

The idea of "values lessons" was floated last month by Bavarian Premier Markus Söder from the CSU and by his Hesse counterpart, Volker Bouffier, from the CDU. Talking to the German Spiegel magazine, Bouffier said that a similar integration project has been employed in refugee centers for the last two years.

"The project is very successful," he told the magazine. "That is why we want to use this experience and expand the classes in the upcoming legislative term."

Both Bavaria and Hesse are set to hold state elections in October.

https://www.dw.com/en/germanys-csu-...refugee-children-in-schools-report/a-43678759
 
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Migrants fail German tests in increasing numbers
By Nicole Goebel | 22.03.2019

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Around 45 percent of migrants taking part in language and integration courses in Germany do not pass, according to media reports citing the response to a request for information by the far-right AfD party.

Of the roughly 202,000 people taking a course in 2018, 93,500 failed, according to government data cited in the Neue Osnabrücker Zeitung daily. One in four failed even after doing additional classes.

In 2017, the percentage of those who failed was 40 percent.

The course is aimed at teaching participants a lower to intermediate level of German, classified as B1. It also requires people to sit an exam titled "Life in Germany."

According to figures quoted in daily Die Welt nearly 40,000 of those taking part last year were Syrians, followed by Afghans, Iraqis, Romanians, Turks and Bulgarians.

Nearly 45,000 participants were illiterate when they started their classes.

Migration office under fire

Germany's Federal Office for Migration and Refugees (BAMF) has been criticized for the quality of the courses, with inspections stepped up.

Media reports say that BAMF ran checks on nearly 90 percent of course providers in 2018, which was one reason for an increase in the office funds despite the number of course participants remaining roughly the same as the year before.

Some providers sued

Welt reported Friday that some providers are being sued by the BAMF for fraud and the falsifying of documents. The paper says one course provider is even suspected of aiding and abetting the subreption of citizenship by letting participants pass without the required language skills.

The report says 16 providers had seen their license revoked or not renewed last year. BAMF is to publish definitive figures in May, the paper states.

The report says one issue is that no clear guidelines have been set to assess what constitutes "orderly, regular attendance" of courses, leaving it up to the individual teacher to decide if a participant has attended often enough to pass.

https://www.dw.com/en/migrants-fail-german-tests-in-increasing-numbers/a-48018342
 
U.S. should learn from Germany’s failings with immigration and refugees assimilation
By Jackie Gingrich Cushman | October 26, 2019

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German Chancellor Angela Merkel acknowledged that more should have been done to make immigration and refugee assimilation successful. “Germany’s attempt to create a multicultural society has ‘utterly failed,’ ” she told members of the Christian Democratic Union party in a speech in 2010, Reuters reported at the time.

Some blamed Merkel’s shift in tone to pressure from her political right. Whatever the reason, those of us who live across the pond would be wise to give her message the deliberation it deserves.

Merkel didn’t say that immigrants are bad or that Germany shouldn’t accept refugees; she said the current experience in Germany of “allowing people of different cultural backgrounds to live side by side without integrating had not worked,” Reuters reporter Sabine Siebold wrote.

Merkel first took office as chancellor in 2005. Until last year, she was also the head of the Christian Democratic Union party. Faced with a declining German population, Merkel championed immigration and opening German borders to refugees.

In 2015, when the European Union required refugees to return to the country in which they had registered upon entry into the union, Merkel began allowing Syrian refugees who had already registered in another EU country to enter Germany and stay there.

Soon after, Merkel opened Germany’s border with Hungary and allowed thousands of refugees to pass through. Merkel promised to spend $6.8 billion for housing, care and training for the refugees. Based on her actions in 2015, she must have either given into Germany’s failings or decided that they were not failing all that badly.

“This crisis will change our nation,” Merkel said in an address to her nation that year. “But I think we are up for the challenge.”

“This (multicultural) approach has failed, utterly failed,” Merkel said, according to Reuters. Siebold continues, “(Merkel) said too little had been required of immigrants in the past and repeated her usual line that they should learn German in order to get by in school and have opportunities on the labor market.” Today there are still assimilation issues, but not only in Germany. The same is true for enclaves in our country.

Merkel stressed that it is important for immigrants to integrate into society and adopt the culture and values of their host country. If migrants are preparing and planning to return to their home country, then, possibly, distinctly separate communities makes sense — temporarily. But to move into a community permanently is different. Either the immigrants change to fit into the current culture and ethos, or they bring their culture, values and beliefs and reject those of the home country. The best result happens when both grow together, taking the best of both and creating a better future together.

In our country, the debate about immigration and asylum has become politically charged. While we want to be welcoming, we have to agree on what those who enter our country as guests will be required to do. And whether they are required to adhere to the rule of law.

Last August, a Wall Street Journal/ NBC News poll showed hard work remained on top of values supported by majorities of Americans, at 89%, but from there the differences reflect a seismic shift of values — one that was driven by the responses of those under 50.

The other top values were tolerance for others at 80%, financial security at 79% and self-fulfillment at 64%. Of the key American values from two decades earlier, patriotism came in at 61%; religion at 48%; and having children at 43%.

The pollsters then asked about “changes in American society and the country becoming more diverse and tolerant of different lifestyles, languages, cultures and race,” and whether these changes are a step forward, a step backward, or “some of both.” The answers were 40% for “a step forward,” 14% for “a step back” and 43% for “some of both.”

While the media often frames issues as yes or no, the reality is more often encapsulated in the majority response above and in Merkel’s confession of failure in Germany. In our country, immigrants also make up about 15% of our population. To avoid Germany’s utter failure, we should heed Merkel’s advice, even if she didn’t, that shared values and culture are critical.

https://www.bostonherald.com/2019/10/26/u-s-should-learn-from-germanys-immigration-failings/
 
Sweden, England and Germany have all but admitted that mass immigration doesn't work. They won't integrate and they won't add to society in any meaningful way. Now you're stuck with shitty people who won't follow the law and won't do anything that helps the country as a whole. Way to go idiots trying to shore up social security
 
ElKarlo said:
Sweden, England and Germany have all but admitted that mass immigration doesn't work. They won't integrate and they won't add to society in any meaningful way. Now you're stuck with shitty people who won't follow the law and won't do anything that helps the country as a whole. Way to go idiots trying to shore up social security
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I don't think thats 100% true, the considerable immigration to England from the 50's to maybe the 90's can be seen a somewhat successful, it all turned to shit after that imo, keyword in your post is ''shitty people''
 
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