International Germany's Multicultural Experiment: 45% of Migrants Failed German Integration Courses

[Bald1]

I think Merkel also discount this crucial detail when she opened that gate to Europe wide-open: the hundred thousands of frustrated and unidentifiable young Muslim males currently stuck in Europe with nowhere else to go are prime recruitment target by terror cells.

It would not surprise me if future terrorist attacks on German/European soils will be committed by failed asylum seekers that they're unable to deport who eventually got honeypotted by the tales of the 72 virgins.

Agreed, but how the hell did she have such a monumental brain fart? I just don't see how a state leader can open her mouth and invite the 3rd world to trample through Europe without giving it any thought 1st. Criminally negligent, I say.

I'm stopping there before I go off on anothet MCM rant. Lol

Hes a grade A Hero!

Naah, asshole. He did 2 things right though - getting the home brew exemption of palinka, and building the fence.

 

[seiger]

mischaracterising the situation in terms of numbers.

also acting like its an experiment that the west is free. it isnt. world wars were fought over it.

also mischaracterising the german economy. looks pretty healthy to me.

 

[Arkain2K]

Angela Merkel's sudden urge to deport failed asylum seekers shows the impact of the Berlin terrorist attack
Barbara Tasch
Jan. 9, 2017

Tunisians demonstrate against the return of jihadists fighting for extremist groups abroad, on Habib Bourguiba Avenue, in Tunis, Tunisia January 8, 2017.
The placard reads "Angela Merkel Tunisia is not the garbage of Germany." ​

Angela Merkel announced on Monday that she wants a "national effort" to deport people whose asylum claims have been rejected, the Frankfurter Allgemeine reports.

The discussion surrounding the deportation of failed asylum seekers in Germany has been a central one since the Berlin truck attack that killed 12 people last month.

The attacker, Anis Amri, was a failed Tunisian asylum seeker whose deportation stalled because Tunisia refused to take him back.

Merkel left no room for ambiguity on Monday, however. In a speech in Cologne, the German chancellor said: "Anyone who does not have a right of residence must be returned to their home country."

Merkel plans to speed up the deportation of those without the right to stay. She added that anyone with a residence permit has to be integrated properly. She admitted that both of these policies have "not been so seriously pursued" recently and it is the responsibility of the government and the public to take action.

Merkel also talked about finding "common solutions" to classify Algeria, Morocco, and Tunisia as secure states of origin, to enable German authorities to send back migrants coming from these countries more easily. The chancellor also emphasised that a deal with these countries had to be negotiated "respectfully."

Since the Christmas terror attack, German politicians have been urging the government to get tougher on deporting failed asylum seekers and on Sunday, threatened to cut aid to countries refusing to take them back.

"Those who do not cooperate sufficiently cannot hope to benefit from our development aid," Vice Chancellor Sigmar Gabriel told Der Spiegel in an interview published this weekend. His proposition received "full support" from the Interior Minister Thomas de Maiziere.

Merkel's remarks are the latest sign that the champion of the "welcome-politic" is hardening her stance on immigration ahead of September's federal elections in Germany.

A more aggressive approach to deportation is something far-right parties in Germany have been demanding for years but it has now been pushed onto the national agenda of every political party.

The Berlin attack was already the second one perpetrated last year in Germany by a failed asylum seeker. A 27-year-old Syrian man denied asylum in Germany died in July when he set off a bomb outside a crowded music festival in Ansbach.

Merkel started her campaign to be re-elected chancellor for a fourth time in December and has made clear at her party's conference that she had toughened her stance on immigration and refugee integration. She said she supported the full Islamic veil's ban and that it was not appropriate in Germany.

Gabriel had already last week announced a much tougher stance to deal with Islamism in Germany. "Salafist mosques must be banned, the communities dissolved and the preachers should be expelled, as soon as possible," the vice chancellor said, and added that those who call for violence do not enjoy the protection of religious freedom.

http://www.businessinsider.com/ange...deport-failed-asylum-seekers-2017-1?r=UK&IR=T

 

[uppercutbus]

Merkel trying to appease people before election then face-turn and allow more in.

It would be hilarious if it wasn't so pathetic, say anything to remain in power. Trying to act tough and band-aid a self-inflicted wound lolx. This is should be even more evidence of a huge blunder that should remove her from office.

"We'll do this, we'll do that". . . tell that to the dead.

 

[method115]

Merkel trying to appease people before election then face-turn and allow more in.

It would be hilarious if it wasn't so pathetic, say anything to remain in power. Trying to act tough and band-aid a self-inflicted wound lolx. This is should be even more evidence of a huge blunder that should remove her from office.

"We'll do this, we'll do that". . . tell that to the dead.

What are the chances of her winning? Is there any viable alternative?

 

[JDragon]

Family reunions really are a big issue. It is one of the reasons we have so many males. Those with families come here alone and then try to legally reunite once they have been granted asylum. That means the guy comes here and then "reunites" with his wife and his four kids, who then may come to Germany without going the illegal / dangerous route.

Granted, the process is not easy or quick, but it is an issue.

Also in the news (Süddeutsche): Between January and November, 8363 asylum seekers from the North African Maghreb states. At the same time, only 368 people were successfully deported there.

 

[Arkain2K]

Dispute over German development aid for North Africa
North African states deemed safe countries of origin often refuse to take back rejected asylum seekers from Europe. Now, many German politicians are considering development aid as leverage to deport unwanted refugees.

By Christoph Hasselbach
11.01.2017​

Both German coalition partners, the center-left Social Democrats (SPD) and Chancellor Angela Merkel's conservative Christian Democrats (CDU), now want to cut development aid for countries that refuse to take back their citizens. The most dramatic reason is the alleged Berlin Christmas market attacker Anis Amri. The Tunisian citizen was supposed to have been deported long before the attack but red tape kept him in Germany. At first, Tunisia did not even recognize him as a citizen. The search for the required documents dragged on for months until the attack.

It all seems systematic. Very few people from the North African states of Morocco, Algeria and Tunisia are granted asylum - and the numbers are declining. Nonetheless, Germany usually has difficulties deporting rejected asylum applicants because their home countries do not want to take them back. Tunisia is one example: In 2015 and 2016, 900 Tunisians applied for asylum - less than 1 percent of them were accepted. In 2015, only 17 Tunisians were deported and in 2016 the number rose to 117. German Interior Thomas de Maiziere visited the three countries nearly a year ago to solve the problem but the response amounted to nothing more than vague promises of better cooperation.

Now, leading politicians are changing their tune. Disappointed, de Maiziere himself says "the willingness of states to take back their own citizens must be linked with other policy areas, and one of them is development aid." The more reserved justice minister, Heiko Maas, has complained about Germany having to beg the countries to take back their citizens, saying "whoever does not cooperate will be sanctioned." The head of the SPD, Economy Minister Sigmar Gabriel, told Germany's "Spiegel" news magazine that "whoever does not adequately cooperate cannot hope for our development assistance."

Tunisians took to the streets to protest Germany sending jihadi fighters back to their country​

Disagreement at home

Yet everyone who would like to use development aid as leverage has a bone to pick with German Economic Cooperation and Development Minister Gerd Müller, a member of the Christian Social Union (CSU), the CDU's sister party in Bavaria. The CSU is known for its tough stance on refugee policy. Reducing German development aid, however, would damage German interests, Müller told Bavaria's "Passauer Neue Presse" newspaper, because the assistance helps fight the cause of flight for many refugees. "People need work and a future at home; otherwise, they will come here." An economic collapse, he went on, even one related to lacking development aid, "would lead to huge problems."

The conservative politician is now receiving support from an unusual ally, the Left party's Dietmar Bartsch. He called the reduction of development aid "nonsense" in remarks published in the "Mitteldeutsche Zeitung" paper. "We must actually do the opposite and help fight the cause of flight and displacement at its source," he said.

Dirk Messner, the director of the German institute for development policy, believes the issue is more nuanced. Messner is not fundamentally opposed to cuts and actually does believe they make sense if the government is affected and not the regular populace. He proposes cuts in export subsidies, for example.

How much money is entailed? According to Development Minister Müller, Germany spent around 1.1 billion euros ($1.16 billion) on the three Maghreb states; most of the money was provided in the form of loans, so it was not merely handed to them. The funds are used for education and training programs, as well as returnee programs. The "Stabilization and Development in the Middle East and North Africa" project has been running for years now. Through development cooperation, the German government aims to improve living conditions in the region and contribute to more social equality. Müller believes it is well-invested money and offers people prospects in their own country.

http://www.dw.com/en/dispute-over-german-development-aid-for-north-africa/a-37094759

 

[Arkain2K]

Germany to return new asylum seekers to Greece from March
12th January 2017​

Germany will begin returning asylum seekers to Greece from mid-March, an interior ministry spokesman told AFP Thursday, essentially lifting a five-year suspension on such transfers because of poor conditions there.

Under the EU's so-called Dublin rules, would-be refugees must file for asylum in the first member-state of the bloc they enter, often the Mediterranean nations of Greece and Italy.

If asylum seekers have travelled on to other EU nations, they are to be returned to their first port of call.

But that requirement had been halted for Greece, which together with Italy has been the main point of entry for the more than one million migrants who have entered the bloc since 2015 fleeing war and poverty in the Middle East and Africa.

A German interior ministry spokesman told AFP that Germany would reinstate the Dublin rule in two months' time and return newly arrived asylum seekers to their first EU port of call.

"In line with the recommendation from the European Commission, Germany believes that such transfers will be possible from March 15," said the spokesman, Tobias Plate.

The EU recommended on December 8 that member states resume sending asylum seekers back to Greece from March next year, after such transfers were halted since 2011.

Athens has criticised the EU's assessment, with Migration Minister Yannis Mouzalas saying the current legal framework was "unable to respond to the historic migration flows and leaves the burden to the member states that migrants first arrive in".

German refugee relief group Pro Asyl has also raised concerns, warning that the measure would put the asylum system in Greece, a country still recovering from a deep debt and economic crisis, under further pressure.

Germany's 2015 decision to open its doors to Syrian refugees, and to effectively suspend Dublin rules for them, brought 890,000 asylum seekers in that year alone.

But the move by Chancellor Angela Merkel has proved controversial, and the government has since sought to bring numbers down.

Last year, the figure dropped sharply to 280,000 arrivals, largely due to the closure of the Balkan overland route and a fragile EU-Turkey deal to limit the mass influx.

The plan to return asylum seekers to Greece could further slash new arrival figures, ahead of general elections expected in September, when immigration is set to figure as a key issue.

http://www.expatica.com/de/news/Ger...ylum-seekers-to-Greece-from-March_906663.html

 

[Arkain2K]

Germany's Merkel calls for 'cross-border cooperation' on EU security
12.01.2017

German Chancellor Angela Merkel on Thursday urged EU nations to work together to improve security across the bloc by increasing the exchange of data and creating a register of people entering and leaving the Schengen area, a European visa-free travel zone.

"Everyone sees the urgency and everyone knows that if we do not succeed, each country will introduce its own border controls and free movement won't be possible," Merkel told a joint press conference with Luxembourg's prime minister, Xavier Bettel.

"It makes me optimistic that a lot of countries have sadly had the experience that terrorism is a big challenge for all of us and only cross-border cooperation in the Schengen area will help us," Merkel added.

In recent years, Europe has witnessed several terrorist attacks that have left dozens dead in Berlin, Paris, Brussels and elsewhere. In her New Year's address to the nation, Merkel described terrorism as the greatest challenge facing the nation.

"Without a doubt, the most difficult test we've faced is Islamist terrorism, which has also had us Germans in its crosshairs for many years," she said.

Since the terror attack on a Christmas market in Berlin, the German government has announced new measures to curb security threats, including tougher place-of-residence obligations for those who have faked their identity and increasing surveillance on individuals considered a potential danger.

http://www.dw.com/en/germanys-merkel-calls-for-cross-border-cooperation-on-eu-security/a-37111266

 

[Blackened]

It's all for show before elections, in my opinion. She knew the dangers of "preachers who preach violence" beforehand. For fucks sakes, has she not been paying attention to anything that's been going on in the past 40 years? Especially since the dawn of the century.

It's like here in the U.S., "fly a plane into our building? We must bring in 3,000,000 of you to prove we aren't racist".

It seems this century is going to be about the struggle between Islam and the west. Islam will win, though not likely in my lifetime. I'm quite sure of this unless serious changes of consciousness occur within our peoples.

 

[Arkain2K]

Merkel trying to appease people before election then face-turn and allow more in.

It's all for show before elections, in my opinion.

The German's relaxed attitude towards these attacks on their own soil is fascinating, though. It's not gonna surprise me if Chancellor Merkel would win another term when any other Prime Minister/President would have lost their job for sure.

Case in point: the latest poll shows 68% of Germans see absolutely no correlation between the Berlin attack and Merkel's open-door epic fail.

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Merkel’s open border policy

Merkel’s decision to open the borders in September 2015 to refugees trying to reach Germany has been both praised as a humanitarian gesture and widely criticized, even within her own party. Many on the right see refugee resettlement as a threat to German identity and security.

In the week after the Berlin attack, however, the Frankfurt General Newspaper published the results of a voter survey conducted by the Forsa Institute, a prominent polling firm. A majority of the Germans polled (68 percent) saw no relationship between Merkel’s refugee politics and the attack in Berlin. Seventy-six percent of those surveyed did believe, however, that terrorism and security would play a large role in this year’s upcoming federal elections, as Merkel is seeking a fourth term.

What effect will this event have on German politics? Various commentators suggest that most Germans are resistant to political panic. An article from Der Spiegel, published two days after the attack and widely circulated on social media, compared German, French and American responses to terrorist attacks. Americans, the authors argued, rebel against terror. The French remind themselves of their republicanism by singing the Marseillaise especially loudly. Berliners? They react as they always do: by showing themselves to be “completely unfazed.”

http://www.newsweek.com/how-berlin-terror-attack-affect-german-politics-538964

 

[Blackened]

The German's relaxed attitude towards these attacks on their own soil is fascinating, though. It's not gonna surprise me if Chancellor Merkel would win another term when any other Prime Minister/President would have lost their job for sure.

Case in point: the latest poll shows 68% of Germans see absolutely no correlation between the Berlin attack and Merkel's open-door epic fail.

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Merkel’s open border policy

Merkel’s decision to open the borders in September 2015 to refugees trying to reach Germany has been both praised as a humanitarian gesture and widely criticized, even within her own party. Many on the right see refugee resettlement as a threat to German identity and security.

In the week after the Berlin attack, however, the Frankfurt General Newspaper published the results of a voter survey conducted by the Forsa Institute, a prominent polling firm. A majority of the Germans polled (68 percent) saw no relationship between Merkel’s refugee politics and the attack in Berlin. Seventy-six percent of those surveyed did believe, however, that terrorism and security would play a large role in this year’s upcoming federal elections, as Merkel is seeking a fourth term.

What effect will this event have on German politics? Various commentators suggest that most Germans are resistant to political panic. An article from Der Spiegel, published two days after the attack and widely circulated on social media, compared German, French and American responses to terrorist attacks. Americans, the authors argued, rebel against terror. The French remind themselves of their republicanism by singing the Marseillaise especially loudly. Berliners? They react as they always do: by showing themselves to be “completely unfazed.”

http://www.newsweek.com/how-berlin-terror-attack-affect-german-politics-538964

Are they stupid or is the media coverage that biased?

I mean, it's interesting seeing this. Even the way you put it I find hilarious, "it's fascinating...", but really just sitting around watching western civilization commit suicide from a detached intellectual perspective. I don't know what can be done at this point. It saddens me.

 

[Arkain2K]

Are they stupid or is the media coverage that biased?

I mean, it's interesting seeing this. Even the way you put it I find hilarious, "it's fascinating...", but really just sitting around watching western civilization commit suicide from a detached intellectual perspective. I don't know what can be done at this point. It saddens me.

May be it's the vast differences between European and American culture. Our pendulum had already swung back hard the other way, but Germany's is barely moving back towards the center.

Germany is amazed at how an awesome candidate like Hillary could have lost the U.S election to a "xenophobic" who vows to secure his country's borders against unauthorized immigration, and Americans are amazed at how Germans chose to march in the street against xenophobia the day after the Berlin terror attack instead of, you know, having a city-wide candle-lit vigil for the victims or something.

What do you think @JDragon? Do you see any correlations at all between Merkel's open-door experiment and what's happening in Berlin and Cologne?

 

[JDragon]

What do you think @JDragon? Do you see any correlations at all between Merkel's open-door experiment and what's happening in Berlin and Cologne?

Yes and no. If you had asked me 1.5 years ago, I would have said that ISIS has so many people inside Europe who are willing to kill and die for them that they would not need to insert fighters to Europe. The Paris attacks kind of proved me wrong there. And yes, the Berlin terrorist was a 'refugee'. But if we somehow got rid of all migrants who came here since mid-2014, the terror risk level would not magically drop massively. Not all European terrorists are refugees, but most of them are hardcore islamists. I think the main way in that the terror risk may have increased is less in that dangerous people came here - lots of them here already - but in that it overwhelmed capabilities of police and intelligence. I do not see how else to explain the Amri failures.

The Cologne thing is different. It gives a view into the future. It is not the new normal. Fuck, German cities are way, way safer than any large American city and that has not changed. But the long-term cultural implications of immigrants with a different culture, higher birth rates and no clear perspective of return (even if they want to, many will likely stay) are significant.

Still I think the discussion is one-dimensional. Germany is doing pretty good right now, things are much better than they were 15 years ago on most levels. But Merkel did make a grave mistake with the refugee issue - because it is breaking up her party, which has been ruling 28 out of the last 35 years and has guaranteed stability for the most part.

The Social Democrats in Germany are calling for 'cultural war' against Islamists. The post-communists are trying to get right-wing voters. The Green Party - a mixture of centrists and SJWs - calls for more video surveillance and is suddenly willing to deport people to Afghanistan. And Merkel's own party and the sister party CSU are changing their tune. The election year 2017 will be interesting.

 

[Blackened]

The Cologne thing is different. It gives a view into the future. It is not the new normal. Fuck, German cities are way, way safer than any large American city and that has not changed. But the long-term cultural implications of immigrants with a different culture, higher birth rates and no clear perspective of return (even if they want to, many will likely stay) are significant.

And you don't attribute that to demographics? Haven't you noticed the correlation between white Europeans and low crime rate?

If you haven't, you will in due time.

Look at predominantly white areas, like Rural America. It's not so different from European countries. Look at Montana's crime rates, for example. It's the cities in America that have high crime rates, and that's where all the "diversity" is.

The more you fuck with the demographics, the more fucked your crime will be. On the flip side, if you like big government or a police state, this is the way to get it.

You guys should be using America as an example and learn from our mistakes. At least watch the video in my signature.

 

[Egelo]

And you don't attribute that to demographics? Haven't you noticed the correlation between white Europeans and low crime rate?

If you haven't, you will in due time.

Look at predominantly white areas, like Rural America. It's not so different from European countries. Look at Montana's crime rates, for example. It's the cities in America that have high crime rates, and that's where all the "diversity" is.

The more you fuck with the demographics, the more fucked your crime will be. On the flip side, if you like big government or a police state, this is the way to get it.

You guys should be using America as an example and learn from our mistakes. At least watch the video in my signature.

you wasting your time, he is a hard lftist that cant own up to certain facts.

German 2014 Crime rates by nationality.

- murder per capita

Lebanese 23
Tunisians 14
Algerien 12
Afgan 9
German 0.8

- Man slaughter

Algerian 57
Tunisian 53
Somali 36
Pakistani 27
Lebanese 25
Iraqi 22
Afgan 17
Germans 1.7

- Sex assult/rape

Algerian 36
Tunisian 32
Somali 29
Afgan 24
Lebanese 24
Pakistani 21
Iraqi 18
Nigrian 16.7
German 3

 

[Blackened]

you wasting your time, he is a hard lftist that cant own up to certain facts.

German 2014 Crime rates by nationality.

- murder per capita

Lebanese 23
Tunisians 14
Algerien 12
Afgan 9
German 0.8

- Man slaughter

Algerian 57
Tunisian 53
Somali 36
Pakistani 27
Lebanese 25
Iraqi 22
Afgan 17
Germans 1.7

- Sex assult/rape

Algerian 36
Tunisian 32
Somali 29
Afgan 24
Lebanese 24
Pakistani 21
Iraqi 18
Nigrian 16.7
German 3

Watch the video in my sig.

"They will be unable to come to sensible conclusions on how to defend themselves, their community and their country."

It's so apparent from the outside looking in.

There is another video where he explains the process. We are on the "crisis" stage right now. There are three possibilities from here, civil war being one of them.

People really need to wake the fuck up. There is a woman whose daughter was raped and killed by immigrants and she was posting on twitter about "stop the racism". It's seriously fucked. Marxism has to die. I need a Pinochet.

 

[Egelo]

Watch the video in my sig.

"They will be unable to come to sensible conclusions on how to defend themselves."

It's so apparent from the outside looking in.

Bezmenov spoke some truths for sure, but Germans un like most are way more naturally conditioned to follow like blind dogs.

 

[Blackened]

Bezmenov spoke some truths for sure, but Germans un like most are way more naturally conditioned to follow like blind dogs.

Man, it's no different here. If old people weren't around, we'd be stuck with Hillary. If we didn't have mostly white demographics, we'd be stuck with Hillary. The old people and the white majority are on their way out. The future does NOT look good. America will have to fall and fragment into several small ethnostates, it's our only hope.

California is essentially Mexican occupied territory right now. Fucked up thing is, if shit ever got out of hand, they can always return to their homeland. We aren't going to have anywhere to flee.

And have you looked at suicide rate by ethnicity? White people are twice as likely to commit suicide than all other ethnicities in the U.S. combined. White privileged my ass, more Marxist bullshit.

 

[Egelo]

Man, it's no different here. If old people weren't around, we'd be stuck with Hillary. If we didn't have mostly white demographics, we'd be stuck with Hillary. The old people and the white majority are on their way out. The future does NOT look good. America will have to fall and fragment into several small ethnostates, it's our only hope.

California is essentially Mexican occupied territory right now.

30% latinos and 13% black men for Trump if im not mistaken, so there is hope bra.

Just like the Sikhs voted Pro Brexit.

There is hope.