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first of all, when it comes to affirmative action, what we're talking about really is OPPORTUNITY. so, yes, the white kid in the trailer park, from BEFORE he was born, was more privileged than lebron james....now that lebron is a billionaire, he doesn't have to live in america (i honestly don't know why he still does) or put up with a lotta things regular folks do, so, he can potentially enjoy more privileges than a poor or middle-class white guy. but whites in general start off far more privileged than blacks.I agree with a lot of what you have said in this thread (except when you got all crazy lol), but you are fighting a losing battle as there are a good amount of people that truly believe racism/discrimination died with the Jim Crow laws, or if you mention white privilege they respond with "So trailer Joe is more privileged than Lebron James?" and such. Nothing you say will change their minds regardless of the points you make or provide in the context of discussion.
However with that being said, the main thing I don't agree with on your perspective is automatic qualifications for any race when results are a viable option. In the police exam example you mentioned earlier, where there is standardized testing involved before acceptance to a police academy, then if they are accepting 100 applicants to phase 2, then it should be the highest ranking scores in order until you reach person 100. If the passing score is "above 85", there is no justification to take someone who scored an 86 before someone who scored a 91. That is the most fair and objective way for all parties involved. You have been saying that it "doesn't take away or limit another race", but in reality it does because if a white or Asian had the higher score, they didn't receive a job opportunity that they deserved. They earned it in this example you gave, by studying harder or scoring higher, yet their elimination would be strictly on too many people of their race scoring higher and another race not scoring high enough as they did to make the cut.
You've made many good points in this thread, but I feel this one you should revisit.
my example about the police was saying that there are OTHER criteria besides just raw sores.
I tried to illustrate that point by explaining how on one particular occasion, i applied and interviewed for a job...i knew all the other applicants personally as it was a company we all worked for. I was far more qualified than all of them...the company gave the job to a less qualified guy. the company explained the reason he was hired, and i understood. there were other applicants who objected, but i knew from experience that my superior education and experience didn't mean i would automatically be chosen..the company was looking for other qualities besides those things..longevity, how well they felt a particular individual would "fit in" the new position. I didn't take it as racist at all that i wasn't hired. i have heard many managers talk about why they don't necessarily hire the "most qualified" guy...it could be personality, or maybe that particular candidate is even overqualified...there's lots of reasons.
in the police example, i was saying the same criteria is used by many cities in hiring police....they consider the needs of the community...the cultural backgrounds involved and things like that. they have to look at who is the best fit...who has the best chance of being successful and who can best build the rapport with the community like the police are supposed to do in their charter to serve and protect. so, a person may have the highest score and not be best suited for the job.
if you gave that job to someone from a different cultural background, you might actually be setting them up for failure. of course we don't have the ability to see the future, and things might not work out, so that's why people get fired and the hiring process has to start all over again...but my point was that it doesn't hurt a white candidate if he or she is not hired in this case...that person might simply not be the best qualified for that job based on what the city sees as the most important criteria...that's not racism...it's public administration.