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Discussion in 'Sports Bar' started by cedented, Feb 22, 2018.
Yet Jordan was (and remains) bigger.
His career wasn't colored by politics, and yet he was.
Doing a list like this it is so subjective and difficult. There are just too many variables to take into consideration. For instance just magnify the NFL football- if you are asking a sports figure I think you exclude Bo Jackson, he is more of a ‘top athlete’ than a ‘top football player’ if you get where I am coming from. Now forget about Bo Jackson for a minute.
That’s a more definitive list. Yet you could easily make a case for Barry Sanders, Walter Payton, or Jerry Rice as a ‘top football player’. This is what makes asking a question of who the best from all the sports so complex when in football alone it’s hard to decide.
This is why I hate lists like this. Bo Jackson was a better athlete than he was a football player. If we are just talking about football mechanics, attributes, and stats he would actually trail Barry Sanders, Payton, Rice, and a number of others.
Based not just on their dominance and brilliance in their field, but also their worldwide fame and impact, I'd say, pre WW2, it's Donald Bradman, ahead of Paavo Nurmi, Babe Ruth and Joe Louis.
Post War, Ali, Pele, Maradona, Tyson and MJ.
To choose one, it's got to be Ali. He transcended sport, and his fame is hard to comprehend now for younger people who weren't around in the 60s and 70s.
Assuming the interpretation of "greatest" is "most iconic", I'm going with Ali. Ruth and MJ are the defining figures in their respective sports, and the bar with which everyone is evaluated. But Ali as an icon transcends anything in the sports realm. His presence in pop culture, for example, is still present a half century after his prime. There are still commercials to this day that use promos he cut, a film made about his life son Best Picture, etc.
1. Michael Jordan
2. Babe Ruth
3. Muhammad Ali
5. Usain Bolt
Well, if its dominance in their respective sport, then its Wayne Gretzky and its not even close. Non believer? Check his stats against any other player in the history of hockey.
All time great, and cultural icon.
Mike Tyson deserves to be listed.
Id say Jordan , Ali and Tyson in no particular order.
And I heard he ripped on the city of Boston a lot too. Which is remarkable given how Bostonians are.
David Beckham needs to be on the list. I pretty sure he bigger than Jordan globally. I wonder how popular Jordan was globally. Was Jordan big in Europe, Latin Murica, and Asia? Basically was basketball as big as soccer back then?
lol is that Don Mattingly? Heckuva player but not exactly the #23 I was referring too haha
How big was he in China, India, and Latin America? Actually did Europe outside of England care much for boxing back then or even now?
Muhammad Ali was/is global. You can go to nearly any country on the planet, hold up his picture and people will know who he is.
He transcended sports.
Pretty sure at Barcelona Olympics in 92 the dream team were the main attraction. Not soccer.
The difference is on one side you have the best basketball players and on the other side Olympic soccer can only field under 23yo players with two older players per team...so all the big soccer stars aren't competing on the Olympics.
I grew up on 90s NBA so its MJ for me.