Have People Tuned Out Media Outrage?

Well, I don't know what you read/watch, but I think it's not reported fairly either (they should be much harsher!).

If you think threatening nuclear war on twitter and during speeches, having high ranking members of your campaign going to jail, profiting from your position of power (along with your family members), etc. is just "running a couple of stop signs" you just can't be helped. Seriously, it's a major lack of clarity on your part. These are really fucking big deals and again, would sink any other normal presidency. This guy has you people under a spell.

I don't think it would sink another president because the media would not treat another president like this.

If he's hard, he's too hard, if soft, he's too soft. It's been like this from day one. I think it's too early for concrete and drastic conclusions like treason, ask me again in 2020.
 
I don't think it would sink another president because the media would not treat another president like this.

If he's hard, he's too hard, if soft, he's too soft. It's been like this from day one. I think it's too early for concrete and drastic conclusions like treason, ask me again in 2020.
Wah, everybody is unfair to poor Donny, wah!
 
And do you guys realize that pretty much nobody mentioned this as a top concern, the poll still has a significance? It's simply because most people vote based on their top priority. Maybe it's healthcare, maybe LGBQT, immigration etc.

In other words, despite of the media meltdown regarding Russia, very few people will vote based on how evil Russia is and why the fuk Trump talks with Putin.

Can someone pleeesseee for God's sake explain to me, why it is treated as a top concern pretty much on every lefty platform and why the dnc uses all their energy to drive this train, even though it is considered as "relatively" meaningless?

1. You have no way to conclude that the Russia story is "relatively meaningless" to people based on the findings of that misleadingly titled link you posted. The only conclusion you can make is that it is not a top concern among a list of about 50 other concerns. That's an incredibly misleading title on their part and an poorly thought out conclusion on your part.

2. Let's be parsimonious for a second. Which is more likely: the Russia story is getting a lot of coverage because
a) the collective force of the MSM is pushing a liberal agenda because (fill in the blank)
b) its it's good for ratings because even if it's not the most important issue facing people

3. By your own source, one of the most important issues that people agree on is "dissatisfaction with government/poor leadership" and "race relations/racism". Do you think this sentiment is reflected accurately in conservative media?
 
a) the collective force of the MSM is pushing a liberal agenda because (fill in the blank)
b) its it's good for ratings because even if it's not the most important issue facing people

A, easy. Although I'd argue that it's not exactly a liberal agenda but rather an authoritarian, elitist, keep ourselves in power agenda. The MSM is owned and funded by the same people that own our politicians. Think about that.
 
A, easy. Although I'd argue that it's not exactly a liberal agenda but rather an authoritarian, elitist, keep ourselves in power agenda. The MSM is owned and funded by the same people that own our politicians. Think about that.

From a more clever poster, I would applaud the brilliant satire. Sadly, you seem blind to the irony.

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From a more clever poster, I would applaud the brilliant satire. Sadly, you seem blind to the irony.

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I'm sorry, is Fox news not part of the MSM? Seems to me you need to update your paradigm. Fox is no exception to this.
 
We're more in tune with media outrage than ever. Do you not hear the 300 million-strong orchestra? Seems hard to miss, time to get the ol' hearing checked.
 
I'm sorry, is Fox news not part of the MSM? Seems to me you need to update your paradigm. Fox is no exception to this.
Curious; what sort of policies or end-goals help the MSM's owners implement an "authoritarian, elitist, keep ourselves in power agenda"?
I guess pitting the middle class against the lower class about why the 1% deserve to hoard wealth is a pretty effective way for elites to stay in power, but that doesn't seem to be a theme of the left wing media agenda.
 
Yes, all outlets that report facts are not trustworthy if they occasionally give opinions.

Or, even if they don't give opinions, if they report facts I don't like.

Or, even if they don't give opinions or report facts I don't like, if they don't proactively report my own opinions to me as facts.
Unless it’s Fox, right?
 
I think it's more the open bias than fake, which people are opposed to.
100% negative reporting on Trump is maybe a little bit too much. They can't even mention good job numbers, without saying something negative about Trump. It just doesn't feel like news anymore and journalists look more like left activists.
This. Everything clearly has a bias, and it has become tiresome .
 
Curious; what sort of policies or end-goals help the MSM's owners implement an "authoritarian, elitist, keep ourselves in power agenda"?
I guess pitting the middle class against the lower class about why the 1% should get tax breaks is a pretty effective way for elites to stay in power, but that doesn't seem to be a theme of the left wing media agenda.

There are many ways. Another way Fox does this is by beating the war drums and shaming people into supporting interventions around the world. They do it by propping up the RNC establishment and running cover for them while promoting and employeeing complete political scumbags espousing clear propaganda. Leftist outlets like CNN and MSNBC do it by whipping up hysteria over racism, homophobia, immigration, women's issues, Russia, ect.

It's the Hegelian Dialectic approach from the elites. Constently present us with seemingly opposing and irreconcilable choices that forces us to take sides and fight over it. But the choices presented are such that no matter which one we choose, or which side wins, it still furthers their agenda in the end.
 
No, it's the surging economy that isn't making any of the greater overall economic problems go away. Trump and his supporters like the way things look in the short-term, and there are plenty of positive indications for them, but they're not seeing the big picture they like to talk about. That's why socialism is taking over the liberal party. He has accelerated and encouraged this with his rhetoric. The underlying fundamentals that caused people to gravitate towards that awful, nonviable solution aren't going away.

No matter how well his administration does politically, in his ignorance, Trump is going to leave us with the most deeply divided America we have ever seen, and with no compromises to insulate capitalism that bring the other side in. Those in his own base who are poor, but support him, are going to erode away under the weight of these fundamentals if it is not addressed. It's only a matter of time before he comes to represent "the Establishment."

Right now the only thing preventing that is media hysteria. They need to measure their rhetoric and coverage, and to balance it out.
 
I'm sorry, is Fox news not part of the MSM? Seems to me you need to update your paradigm. Fox is no exception to this.
Yeah but you said something that seemed like a conservative point of view once. Please remember to state your side more clearly in the future when posting to liberals. They are easily confused.
 
Big Media is immoral and broken, too concerned about making a profit than providing a real service to the people. That doesn't mean everything is a lie or there's a plot against the president, just that they've been irresponsible and done a poor job. Where there's smoke, there's fire. And Trump has been a massive black cloud since before he was elected. But he told his sheep that the media is evil and out to deceive, so any negative coverage is obviously a lie to them. Coincidentally anything positive can be trusted without question. So it seems truth in the media is whatever you want it to be at this point.
 
I don't think it would sink another president because the media would not treat another president like this.

If he's hard, he's too hard, if soft, he's too soft. It's been like this from day one. I think it's too early for concrete and drastic conclusions like treason, ask me again in 2020.
I don't know what else to say about your comments in here. Trump is just objectively more corrupt and less competent than any president in our lifetimes (and maybe ever) and has more scandals than all of them combined and your response is the media is treating them unfairly. Ok, not everyone can be enlightened.
 
That's closer to the truth. In reality, a lot of them don't watch any kind of news at all. The republican party has always had a large base of low information voters who vote red because that's the party of jesus n' guns and waving flags. They don't need to tune out media outrage because they never tuned into it. Farmers generally don't watch rolling news channels or look at twitter or read broadsheet papers, they vote republican because that's who grandpa told them was the best.
Same thing with the black community, just with democrats.
 
I don't know what else to say about your comments in here. Trump is just objectively more corrupt and less competent than any president in our lifetimes (and maybe ever) and has more scandals than all of them combined and your response is the media is treating them unfairly. Ok, not everyone can be enlightened.

I'm not saying it's all sunshine, but look at some of your complaints- you could have chosen any number of things to criticize, and you included Trump University as an example. Why? A scandal from before he was president that we all knew about when he ran is not a valid complaint as to why he's doing a poor job today, but we hear things like this in the media everyday. When the media collectively groans about treason or goes on for weeks about who Trump slept with when the US is doing well on so many fronts it's hard to overlook.

The pettiness in reporting is going to backfire. And don't get me wrong, I'm not undermining your other points, there are valid criticisms and this isn't meant as an endorsement like you believe, I'm just highlighting that it's not objective and fair reporting and the media gets a pass for being hysterical because Trump.
 
I'm not saying it's all sunshine, but look at some of your complaints- you could have chosen any number of things to criticize, and you included Trump University as an example. Why? A scandal from before he was president that we all knew about when he ran is not a valid complaint as to why he's doing a poor job today, but we hear things like this in the media everyday. When the media collectively groans about treason or goes on for weeks about who Trump slept with when the US is doing well on so many fronts it's hard to overlook.

See, this is the kind of stuff that you're quite frankly just blind to. It speaks to the type of person he is and the way he conducts business. It's proof that he's unethical, which continues to be true given all the other revelations. It absolutely impacts the job he does today. I also don't see how you can conclude that something like this isn't important.

The pettiness in reporting is going to backfire. And don't get me wrong, I'm not undermining your other points, there are valid criticisms and this isn't meant as an endorsement like you believe, I'm just highlighting that it's not objective and fair reporting and the media gets a pass for being hysterical because Trump.

It's flat out cult like behavior to say that all of these scandals are nothingburgers and conclude the media is overreacting. I mean, how would you cover it? "Trump threatens war with Iran via Twitter, no biggie, now on to more important news!"
 
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