How will Trump supporters rationalize this?

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Last I checked Trump wanted to end DACA, but today he tweeted this:

"Does anybody really want to throw out good, educated and accomplished young people who have jobs, some serving in the military? Really!"

and this:

"They have been in our country for many years through no fault of their own - brought in by parents at young age"


This is confusing even for schizophrenics.
 
They will find a way to agree with it, and say that is how they felt all along.

I think the unifying factor of Trump supporters is not Trump's policies, it is finding and unifying against an enemy they all agree on. First it was Obama, then all of the Republican candidates, then Clinton, and now "leftists" in general.

There does not seem to be any agreement amongst them on what the policies should be, because Trump had no idea how he felt about most things throughout the election. He had very few plans on how to accomplish anything, and seemed to change his mind a lot. He often just said people would be "very happy" and you "believe" him. They did, I guess. So Trump basically does and says whatever he wants now, and they can still rally around winning the election and attacking their common enemies.
 
MasterSeagal said:
Last I checked Trump wanted to end DACA, but today he tweeted this:

"Does anybody really want to throw out good, educated and accomplished young people who have jobs, some serving in the military? Really!"

and this:

"They have been in our country for many years through no fault of their own - brought in by parents at young age"


This is confusing even for schizophrenics.
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What's wrong with that?

As long as we MAGA, I don't see a problem with it. We voted to MAGA.
 
The a la carte politics of Trump.
 
People still believe presidents have any power? lol
 
nac386 said:
They will find a way to agree with it, and say that is how they felt all along.

I think the unifying factor of Trump supporters is not Trump's policies, it is finding and unifying against an enemy they all agree on. First it was Obama, then all of the Republican candidates, then Clinton, and now "leftists" in general.

There does not seem to be any agreement amongst them on what the policies should be, because Trump had no idea how he felt about most things throughout the election. He had very few plans on how to accomplish anything, and seemed to change his mind a lot. He often just said people would be "very happy" and you "believe" him. They did, I guess. So Trump basically does and says whatever he wants now, and they can still rally around winning the election and attacking their common enemies.
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It's beyond pathetic. They're just a bunch of sycophants really.

I would disagree a bit and say that Trump did have some ideas/themes in his campaign (whether you agree with them or not is another debate). Tough stance on immigration was certainly one of the central tenets, but it seems his supporters didn't actually care about that issue either. They just wanted the MAGA hat and the feeling of belonging to a team.
 
He got congress to make a law that will take border security seriously, which is way more than we would get from any other president.

How do you rationalize that Trump made a good deal on immigration even though he's literally Hitler? It's like Trump is good at negotiations or something.

Also I thought it was impossible to work with Trump, even though it looks like a deal that makes just about every one happy.

Maybe y'all will admit you're hysterical over your own delusional narrative of trump.
 
There appears to be no position he won't generously take many sides of, many sides
 
How do I know he really Tweeted that? How come there isn't one of those cool little embedded Twitter thingies in the OP?
 
nac386 said:
They will find a way to agree with it, and say that is how they felt all along.

I think the unifying factor of Trump supporters is not Trump's policies, it is finding and unifying against an enemy they all agree on. First it was Obama, then all of the Republican candidates, then Clinton, and now "leftists" in general.

There does not seem to be any agreement amongst them on what the policies should be, because Trump had no idea how he felt about most things throughout the election. He had very few plans on how to accomplish anything, and seemed to change his mind a lot. He often just said people would be "very happy" and you "believe" him. They did, I guess. So Trump basically does and says whatever he wants now, and they can still rally around winning the election and attacking their common enemies.
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This just simply isn't true. From what I've observed Trump has the most self-critical "movement" of any recent president. They spat in his face over a mostly symbolic Syria strike and he's experiencing heavy backlash over DACA. The front page of Breitbart is all anti-Trump right now. It isn't that they're fickle -- it's that he was elected explicitly on the condition of two or three policy promises and he is merely an instrument.

What did happen in both cases is that mainstream/liberal Republicans suddenly began praising him and since those of you on the left have ceased to differentiate between anyone outside of the Democrat party, you mistook it for his base flip-flopping. Either you are unperceptive or lying.

There is one piece of truth to what you're saying, though -- Trump could flip-flop way to the left of his current centrist platform and he wouldn't effectively lose many votes for reelection because all of the alternatives in US politics are even further left.

All of the "crazy right wing" things he's attempting to do? Revert Obama policies back to Clinton policies. America has no actual right-wing by global standards, therefore the candidate who is least left-leaning will always get our votes. It is our weakness, but we are vocally critical.
 
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nac386 said:
They will find a way to agree with it, and say that is how they felt all along.

I think the unifying factor of Trump supporters is not Trump's policies, it is finding and unifying against an enemy they all agree on. First it was Obama, then all of the Republican candidates, then Clinton, and now "leftists" in general.

There does not seem to be any agreement amongst them on what the policies should be, because Trump had no idea how he felt about most things throughout the election. He had very few plans on how to accomplish anything, and seemed to change his mind a lot. He often just said people would be "very happy" and you "believe" him. They did, I guess. So Trump basically does and says whatever he wants now, and they can still rally around winning the election and attacking their common enemies.
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So what you're saying is Trump supporters are like female porn stars pretending to like anal sex?
 
Seems like no body listened to what he said when he kicked DACA back to congress.
He simply wanted them to do their job and hash it out in REAL legislation.
The EO was illegal.
 
AviatorShades said:
This just simply isn't true. From what I've observed Trump has the most self-critical "movement" of any recent president. They spat in his face over a mostly symbolic Syria strike and he's experiencing heavy backlash over DACA. The front page of Breitbart is all anti-Trump right now. It isn't that they're fickle -- it's that he was elected explicitly on the condition of two or three policy promises and he is merely an instrument.

What did happen in both cases is that mainstream/liberal Republicans suddenly began praising him and since those of you on the left have ceased to differentiate between anyone outside of the Democrat party, you mistook it for his base flip-flopping. Either you are unperceptive or lying.

There is one piece of truth to what you're saying, though -- Trump could flip-flop way to the left of his current centrist platform and he wouldn't effectively lose many votes for reelection because all of the alternatives in US politics are even further left.

All of the "crazy right wing" things he's attempting to do? Revert Obama policies back to Clinton policies. America has no actual right-wing by global standards, therefore the candidate who is least left-leaning will always get our votes. It is our weakness, but we are vocally critical.
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So we should expect a barrage of very angry Trump supporters in this thread then, right? Not so far. They either changed their tune or deflected so far.

Compare what Ripskater just said to this:

http://forums.sherdog.com/search/62678181/?q=dreamers&o=relevance&c[user][0]=337685

He called them rapists, criminals, jihadists, rioters, said they urinate on children, etc. But suddenly, it's all good and even if Trump allows them to stay he is making America great.

He said all those terrible things about Dreamers because it was Obama who was using the policy, and exactly like I said, he was attacking Obama not the policy. That is a consistent trend.

The second half of your post is half-true. We do not really have a left-wing either. Both of our parties are fairly centralized compared to many other places around the world. But this conversation is not about elections, we are 3.5 years away from an election. This is about a specific policy and the response to it.
 
Trump said "x", I agree. It'll be funny to see liberal tears. MAGA.

Trump said opposite of "x", I agree. Lefties are rustled,MAGA.
 
At least he stayed consistent on one thing:
He lied all the time about pretty much everything before he took office, and he's staying with that winning strategy
 
i think he's starting to realize he can say and do whatever and his supporters will agree with it, so now he can just focus on making as much money as possible while not really committing to anything or flipflopping
 
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