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CauseImbetta

CauseImbetta

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I'm friendly and will not bite. There are two types of Atheism:

Implicit (unknowledgeable about thology, like a child who is a default atheist).

and

Explicit. I am the explicit type (knowingly reject stories about mythology/theology). I reject it due to logic and critical thinking.

Quick point about agnosticism: we are all agnostic. Meaning we don't know and cannot know whether god exists. But we can be theistic agnostics (believe deities exists) or atheistic agnostics (believe here are no deities).

Regarding nihilism aspect, morality is man-made and evolves over time.

I'm happy to discuss and will site references. Most of what I posted here is from a great book I read a while ago that turned me into an Atheist called: Atheism a Case Against God by George H. Smith. I read many years ago. I went through all the steps: denial, anger, acceptance and now full critical thinking and happiness that life can have value without cultural fairytales.
 
What are your thoughts on Greg Epstein and his writtings?
 
CauseImbetta said:
Meaning we don't know and cannot know whether god exists.
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This seems to me a trap in the logic, which is set by the presupposition that god can exist.

For example- say somebody believes in the FSM (or if the FSM is a religious trigger word, substitute the teapot or some other thing). Now, that person who believes in the FSM tells another person that they can't know the FSM doesn't exist. It's straight-up absurdity.

That's the extent of the usefulness of the argument if you substitute god for the FSM. It's absurd to go around telling people they cannot know there is no god. By what authority can they even make that claim? It should be off the table for any serious discussion. Who are you to tell me that I cannot know there is no god? And of what use is that, and by which knowledge does that statement come?

If the presupposition of god is rejected, as it should be by all intelligent people who can see past their own bias for apparent order, then the positive agnostic claim is reduced to absurdity.
 
no you're not. you're a Sherdogger.
 
I read your musings in another thread where you said "religion is terrible and i hope all religious people die" care to explain yourself here?
 
Who or what made the laws of physics? I don't believe in God or the bible, but I do think there is something out there that we don't understand and problaly never will...
 
MMAViewer said:
What are your thoughts on Greg Epstein and his writtings?
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Never heard of him. Maybe fellow atheists could chime in?

Ps...look what I found out about him on Wikipedia:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greg_Epstein

"Epstein grew up in Flushing, Queens, New York as an assimilated and disinterested Reform Jew. As a kid he explored the world of anal penetration. As he got older he discovered other hole could be put to good use".
 
CauseImbetta said:
No evidence to support the idea that anything happens. So probably nothing.
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Well, that's fucking depressing...thanks man...real good way to boost morale at a time when it's lower than it's ever been. Fuck
 
Fawlty said:
This seems to me a trap in the logic, which is set by the presupposition that god can exist.

For example- say somebody believes in the FSM (or if the FSM is a religious trigger word, substitute the teapot or some other thing). Now, that person who believes in the FSM tells another person that they can't know the FSM doesn't exist. It's straight-up absurdity.

That's the extent of the usefulness of the argument if you substitute god for the FSM. It's absurd to go around telling people they cannot know there is no god. By what authority can they even make that claim? It should be off the table for any serious discussion. Who are you to tell me that I cannot know there is no god? And of what use is that, and by which knowledge does that statement come?

If the presupposition of god is rejected, as it should be by all intelligent people who can see past their own bias for apparent order, then the positive agnostic claim is reduced to absurdity.
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This doesn't make much sense. You lost me. What is your position, do you believe in a deity or not?

How can anyone know if there is a god or not?
 
sniper said:
I read your musings in another thread where you said "religion is terrible and i hope all religious people die" care to explain yourself here?
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Must be out of context. Where did I say that?
 
BudKing8806 said:
Well, that's fucking depressing...thanks man...real good way to boost morale at a time when it's lower than it's ever been. Fuck
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It's not. Life is what you make it. You don't remember what it was like before you were born, you won't either after you die.

Look at these beautiful words from Carl Sagan's wife after he passed away:

“When my husband died, because he was so famous and known for not being a believer, many people would come up to me-it still sometimes happens-and ask me if Carl changed at the end and converted to a belief in an afterlife. They also frequently ask me if I think I will see him again. Carl faced his death with unflagging courage and never sought refuge in illusions. The tragedy was that we knew we would never see each other again. I don't ever expect to be reunited with Carl. But, the great thing is that when we were together, for nearly twenty years, we lived with a vivid appreciation of how brief and precious life is. We never trivialized the meaning of death by pretending it was anything other than a final parting. Every single moment that we were alive and we were together was miraculous-not miraculous in the sense of inexplicable or supernatural. We knew we were beneficiaries of chance. . . . That pure chance could be so generous and so kind. . . . That we could find each other, as Carl wrote so beautifully in Cosmos, you know, in the vastness of space and the immensity of time. . . . That we could be together for twenty years. That is something which sustains me and it’s much more meaningful. . . . The way he treated me and the way I treated him, the way we took care of each other and our family, while he lived. That is so much more important than the idea I will see him someday. I don't think I'll ever see Carl again. But I saw him. We saw each other. We found each other in the cosmos, and that was wonderful.” https://www.goodreads.com/quotes/50...sband-10538-died-because-he-was-so-famous-and
 
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