Indian Air Force wants out of fighter program with Russia

Orgasmo said:
I imagine they're going to have a very pissed off maintenance crew because of the different parts and designs they must work with. On top of that, combat readiness is going to be shit.
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well we use to have a muli-aircraft carrier wing, F-18, the glorious F-14 and A-6....


Now we will have f-35s and F-18s
 
GhostZ06 said:
well we use to have a muli-aircraft carrier wing, F-18, the glorious F-14 and A-6....


Now we will have f-35s and F-18s
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The manufacturing standard and part commonality is the norm in US, whereas Indian will be operating Russian, European and American planes. That's three different set of logistical nightmares.
 
Orgasmo said:
The manufacturing standard and part commonality is the norm in US, whereas Indian will be operating Russian, European and American planes. That's three different set of logistical nightmares.
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fair enough, pretty sad how shitty the pak-fa and j-20 are turning out to be. The media really makes those 2 plane sound like macross Veritech fighters
 
GhostZ06 said:
The is B and A operational in the united states..

Operational testing was to continue aboard USS Abraham Lincoln for the C model with the first deployment is scheduled aboard USS Carl Vinson in 2020ish might be sooner.


there is also rumors of a F-35D being studied and evaluated for the USAF which uses the larger wings of the C and has some very....interesting features including a pretty unique engine
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I believe it was Pierre what's his face from the F-16 on TV who viciously shit talked the F-35 for the short wings and lack of maneuverability.
 
GhostZ06 said:
fair enough, pretty sad how shitty the pak-fa and j-20 are turning out to be. The media really makes those 2 plane sound like macross Veritech fighters
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I still think the t-50 will be the better plane compared to the j-20. Russia actually designed it instead of copycatting like china did.
 
DesignedFailure said:
I still think the t-50 will be the better plane compared to the j-20. Russia actually designed it instead of copycatting like china did.
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well the engines are still not complete its in LRIP i believe

T-50-11 and 12 are the final production versions.


they currently have 12 Su57s flying around. There should be a Su-57N getting ready for production as well. Well sorta, i think the AL-41F engines are still not completed testing


Honestly they should have went with the Su-47 gold eagle design which actually was a true F-22 hunter.


@DesignedFailure its gonna be getting some new engine called the izdeliye 3
 
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GhostZ06 said:
that will be a very intresting carrier aircraft wing, mig-29s, Rafael and F-35s? fuck that sounds like a sexy wing
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whoever is in charge of procurement and logistics is going to kill themselves. 3 completely different aircraft with no similarities in avionics, weapons, engines etc, inter-operating in a single CV? thats a nightmare.
 
Roaming East said:
whoever is in charge of procurement and logistics is going to kill themselves. 3 completely different aircraft with no similarities in avionics, weapons, engines etc, inter-operating in a single CV? thats a nightmare.
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well seems like they are getting more into the nato/US market and phasing out the russian/Warsaw pack weapons
 
Roaming East said:
whoever is in charge of procurement and logistics is going to kill themselves. 3 completely different aircraft with no similarities in avionics, weapons, engines etc, inter-operating in a single CV? thats a nightmare.
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It's not logistics they care about, it's stealing everyone's tech and eventually building their own. They'll have some of the best Ruski Euro American tech to screw around with.
 
GhostZ06 said:
well the engines are still not complete its in LRIP i believe

T-50-11 and 12 are the final production versions.


they currently have 12 Su57s flying around. There should be a Su-57N getting ready for production as well. Well sorta, i think the AL-41F engines are still not completed testing


Honestly they should have went with the Su-47 gold eagle design which actually was a true F-22 hunter.


@DesignedFailure its gonna be getting some new engine called the izdeliye 3
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Sometimes simpler is better. The US spent a million if I recall right for a pen to write in space. The Russian's just used a pencil.

I think the US is a head on stealth tech. But I am sure Russia and China are not very far behind .
 
GhostZ06 said:
Honestly they should have went with the Su-47 gold eagle design which actually was a true F-22 hunter.
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Mig 141 was best cheaper option, with likely good 3rd party sales potential.

They should have build the smaller cheaper plane first.
 
Skulli said:
It's not logistics they care about, it's stealing everyone's tech and eventually building their own. They'll have some of the best Ruski Euro American tech to screw around with.
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Good luck with. They can’t even make a domestic rifle without fucking it up. Indian r&d could ruin a wet dream
 
Strategery said:
Indian air force. Lol, oh come on.
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whats wrong with the indian airforce?

MiG-21 Russia fighter 245[134]
MiG-27 Russia ground attack 66[134]
MiG-29 Russia multirole 66[134]
HAL Tejas India multirole 3 117 on order[134]
Mirage 2000 France multirole 2000 H/I 45[134]
Sukhoi Su-30 Russia multirole Su-MKI 230[135] 53 on order[134]
Dassault Rafale France multirole B/C 36 on order[134]
SEPECAT Jaguar
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pretty well rounded airforce and they also are planning on getting F-16 Block 70s or gripens (these will phase out the mig-21s and 27s)

also LCH helo is very impressive
 
Rholk said:
https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/fact-or-fiction-nasa-spen/
Cool story bro
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This common for people to rip on the US but the reality is already proven them wrong time and time again. I pointed this out about the Russia and India co-development deal that Russia planes especially 5th generation lack the far more advance avionics that US and European fighter planes have and that the F-35 is a far better solution. People don't pick this up the F-35 is a complete 5th generation solution where the Russian's lack the very advanced electronics and computational power in the F-35. Near future versions of the F-35 could become fully autonomous that's something you would never be able to do with Russian solutions. This being said there is still a lot of work left on finishing the operational flexibility the F-35's goal is to achieve.
 
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