Iran and Israel conflict. (updated reg) *Iran Date set for destruction of Israel* Its getting bad.

As long as Israel has nukes nobody is suicidal enough to openly attack them.
If we're going to restrict and forbid Iran from having nuclear weapons, shouldn't the West at least try to regulate Israel's own program? Since Israel has nuclear weapons, that means they can defend themselves without Western aid right?
 
It will be interesting when Iran gets nukes, will armegeddon ensue or will doctrine of MAD take hold?
 
Someone really wants Syria and Assad taken out very badly.

First it was the Muslim brotherhood who assisinated Assads father .

Then Obama asked Congress for war with Syria, but was Denied.

Then the u.s. backed any rebels willing to attack Syria

Russians killed all them

Now the u.s. is stepping back and letting Iran try with u.s. weaponry .

My gut says leave Syria alone

Must be a very strategic country according to the leaders who just play war games all day

I really hope Trump and the USA don't get involved.

When can we finally just learn from history and not get involved in the ME?
 
MAD worked through the cold war. No reason it wouldn't work now.

I have a few reasons why it wouldn't work now:

1. Iran's goal is to destroy Israel. Their leader if felt threatened or close to death may just be crazy enough to push the button.

2. Muslims are suicide bombers ... they are quite willing to kill themselves in order to kill their enemy and get the job done.

3. Iran geographically exists on a plateau. From what I understand, this makes them a lot harder to attack/invade/take over.

As Obi Wan says "I have the high ground".

Iran could launch a nuke and then throw everything into defending a retaliatory action.
 
I have a few reasons why it wouldn't work now:

1. Iran's goal is to destroy Israel. Their leader if felt threatened or close to death may just be crazy enough to push the button.

2. Muslims are suicide bombers ... they are quite willing to kill themselves in order to kill their enemy and get the job done.

3. Iran geographically exists on a plateau. From what I understand, this makes them a lot harder to attack/invade/take over.

As Obi Wan says "I have the high ground".

Iran could launch a nuke and then throw everything into defending a retaliatory action.
How are they gonna defend against Israels nukes? and suicide bombers are Sunnis(Saudi) not Shia(Iranian).
 
It looks like Iran really is an existential threat to Israel. I didn't think so before.
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Last I recall Iran wasn't the one that invaded its neighbors.

People are simply salty that the Safavid regime is gaining influence after the massive fuck ups of the Americans and yet I don't understand why. Sure their regime is pretty unethical in many ways but so are others in the region and at least the Shiites have better control of their militias. I prefer them over the Saudis who give guns and money to mad dog Salafists, as opposed to the Iranians who tell their proxies to jump and they respond "how high?".

And btw Iran isn't the nuclear power in the region that hans't signed the nuclear non-proliferation treaty.
 
Thought they succeeded . I had classmates from Syria a long time ago that spoke about the attacks by the Muslim brotherhood in Syria.

Syria has a pretty bad ass army and was able to ban the group entirely
The Muslim Brotherhood in Syria took over the town of Hama in 1982 in an uprising against the Assad regime. The regime besieged the town killing thousands, mostly civilians, and quelled the uprising. Its a pretty brutal episode and a dark mark on the history of the Assad regime for sure. Probably why Hama was a hot bed of resistance in the Civil War and one of the first towns to get serious uprisings during the Arab Spring.
 
Iran-Backed Terror Group Claims Half-a-Million Missiles Aimed at Israel
Regional wars open door to Iranian proliferation

Link Source 1 (Free Beacon): http://freebeacon.com/national-security/iran-backed-terror-group-claims-will-half-million-missiles-aimed-israel/

Link Source 2 (IranObserver.org): http://www.iranobserver.org/iran-terror-group-has-500000-missiles-aimed-at-israel-it-claims/


An Iranian-backed terror group claims it will have nearly half-a-million missiles aimed at Israel within the next year amid ongoing efforts by the Islamic Republic to transfer advanced missile technology to regional hotspots such as Lebanon and Syria, which are located on Israel's borders.

Militants tied to Hezbollah, the Iranian-controlled terror group that operates along Israel's northern border in Lebanon, claim they have deployed more than 70,000 long-range missiles across Syria and Lebanon in preparation for a strike on Israel. The number of missiles could grow to nearly half-a-million within the next year, according to these militant groups.

Following an encounter between an Iranian drone and Israeli forces that set off speculation of an upcoming confrontation between these two countries, pro-Hezbollah press outlets disclosed that Iran has been moving advanced missiles across the region in order to bolster its terrorist proxies, such as Hezbollah.

The "fog of war" in the region has increased Iran's ability to secretly move weapons across the region, particularly to terrorist groups operating along Israel's borders, according to experts.

Middle Eastern experts who spoke to the Washington Free Beacon said that Iran's strategy may be to line Israel's northern borders with advanced missiles ahead of a possible confrontation with the Jewish state.

"Syrian President Bashar Al-Assad recently rejected an Israeli demand, relayed by Russian President Vladimir Putin, to remove some 70,000 Iranian long-range missiles that Hezbollah has deployed throughout Syria and are aimed at Israel," according to recent claims made by a pro-Hezbollah outlet in Lebanon.

"Syria and Hezbollah will wage a ‘joint missile campaign' against Israel, and… Iranian experts are ready to launch missiles at Israel from every part of Lebanon and Syria," according to the pro-Hezbollah publication, a translation of which was performed by the Middle East Media Research Institute, or MEMRI, which monitors radical communications.

The missiles "are meant to be fired into occupied Palestine from Syrian territory," according to these pro-Hezbollah sources. "They significantly complicate [the activity of] the Israeli enemy's air force, [since it] will have to bombard Hezbollah's missiles and bases in Lebanon in addition to the bases spread across Syria, which hold [these] 70,000 long-range Iranian missiles aimed at the Israeli enemy."

These Iranian-backed terror proxies claim they will be able to amass at least half-a-million rockets within the next year if Israel does not take immediate action to bomb missile caches in Syria and Lebanon.

"If the Israeli enemy remains idle and does not wage war for a year, Hezbollah will deploy half a million missiles on Syrian soil, in addition to [its missiles in] Lebanon, but especially throughout Syria, so that Israel's planes will find it difficult to target Hezbollah's bases there," according to these pro-Hezbollah sources.

Syrian President Assad is said to be complicit in these effort, which is being directed by Iran.

The latest missile disclosures are likely to fuel speculation that confrontation between Israel and these Iranian-proxies is coming to a head. Following the encounter between Israeli forces and an Iranian drone, these militant groups have increased their preparation for a coming war.

Jonathan Schanzer, a Middle East expert at the Foundation for Defense of Democracies, told the Free Beacon that Iran is looking to "saturate Israel with rockets."

"The ability for Iran to move weaponry into Syria is only limited by Iran's transportation fleet and what they have available in their arsenal," Schanzer said, explaining that this puts Israel in a complicated position. "Iran is exploiting the fog of war and it's working."

"If this report of 70,000 rockets is accurate, it's important to note that Iran has also transferred a massive rocket arsenal of 180,000 to Hezbollah," he said. "The strategy may now be emerging: saturate Israel with rockets from two northern fronts and overwhelm their air defenses. Israel has some big decisions ahead. The longer they wait to neutralize this threat, the more nasty that two-front rocket arsenal becomes."
 
How are they gonna defend against Israels nukes? and suicide bombers are Sunnis(Saudi) not Shia(Iranian).

Like I said, Iran exists on a plateau which makes it easier to defend. They could throw everything into defending their borders and airspace.

Has there never been a Shia suicide bomber?
 
Like I said, Iran exists on a plateau which makes it easier to defend. They could throw everything into defending their borders and airspace.

Has there never been a Shia suicide bomber?
How will a plateau defend against Nukes?
 
Ya'll know this is how WW3 starts, right?

Everyone is going to get sucked in eventually. I can see Australia sitting it out. Most of Africa. Potentially S and C America also.
 
Ya'll know this is how WW3 starts, right?

Nah there is no support in the U.S. for another blundering middle east land war. If Trump does make aome kind of move, well i guess i'll meet up with some of you guys in the back of a police van at the protests outside the white house.
 
Nah there is no support in the U.S. for another blundering middle east land war. If Trump does make aome kind of move, well i guess i'll meet up with some of you guys in the back of a police van at the protests outside the white house.

You underestimate the ability to manipulate the public through fear. You overestimate the sheep.
 
How are they gonna defend against Israels nukes? and suicide bombers are Sunnis(Saudi) not Shia(Iranian).
Like I said, Iran exists on a plateau which makes it easier to defend. They could throw everything into defending their borders and airspace.

Has there never been a Shia suicide bomber?
Shiites have definitely used suicide bombing, in fact Iranians pioneered suicide bombing in the Muslim world during the Iran-Iraq war. Saddam had shiny advanced tech provided by the US while Iran's military was still weak from Khomeini's purges following the Revolution so to make up for a military in poor quality he circulated a (likely fabricated) a story concerning an Iranian boy who, using a grenade, destroyed an Iraqi tank by hiding under it and pulling the pin. And in 1983 suicide bombers, often thought to be Hezbollah agents, struck the barracks in Beirut of international peacekeeping forces during the Lebanese Civil War.

That said, Shiites seem far less prone to self radicalization the way Sunnis are. Shiite terrorists and insurgents tend to follow a more strictly hierarchical command structure with some Ayatollah at the top dispensing orders, whether its Khomeini in Iran, Sistani in Iraq, or Nasrallah in Lebanon. So its a bit different with them, its rarely ever a lone nutjob and often an agent acting on the orders of some Mullah or Ayatollah.
 
500,000 long range missiles, no fucking way that's possible. They're talking out of their asses, but that number will be quoted as fact.

I'm not sure I'd believe 5000.
 
500,000 long range missiles, no fucking way that's possible. They're talking out of their asses, but that number will be quoted as fact.

I'm not sure I'd believe 5000.
Also, the article says that an Iranian backed terror group is claiming that, not Iran. It's a, "militant group tied to Hezbollah".
 
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After Israel f*cked America over with stuxnet, America should just leave Israel alone to deal with its own affairs. Israel was supposed to be our ally, but they cannot be trusted.

Too bad Trump is a retard and blind supporter of zionism just so he can appease the stupid evangelicals.
 
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