Yes, I said that Lind condensed the John Birch society's vague ramblings into a coherent theory when he popularised the term in a post-communist context. That's why Yuri was first presented by G Edward Griffin. His vague doom mongering, strident anti-communism and conservative ideology was the perfect match for their conspiratorial mindset. Never mind that his timeline and claims about Soviet subversion utterly failed to materialise. Lind also openly catered to the anti-semitic element. Peterson doesn't say much about the term at all, but I'm sure he's aware of the baggage it brings, and how it was popularised in the '90s as part of the conservative persecution complex in the US Culture Wars. He caters to his audience. Peterson has point blank claimed that mass killings are the end game of the Marxist doctrine present in Women's Studies and the like. "People say that real Marxism has never been tried – not in the Soviet Union, in China, in Cambodia, in Korea, that wasn’t real Marxism. I find that argument specious, appalling, ignorant, and maybe also malevolent all at the same time. Specious because Solzhenitsyn demonstrated beyond a shadow of a doubt that the horrors [of the Soviet system] were a logical consequence of the doctrines embedded within Marxist thinking. I think Dostoyevsky saw what was coming and Nietzsche wrote about it extensively in the 1880s, laying out the propositions that are encapsulated in Marxist doctrine, and warning that millions of people would die in the 20th century because of it. You’ve painted a pretty bleak picture for the future. There are bleak things going on. To start with, Bill C-16 writes social constructionism into the fabric of the law. Social constructionism is the doctrine that all human roles are socially constructed. They’re detached from the underlying biology and from the underlying objective world. So Bill C-16 contains an assault on biology and an implicit assault on the idea of objective reality. It’s also blatant in the Ontario Human Rights Commission policies and the Ontario Human Rights Act. It says identity is nothing but subjective. So a person can be male one day and female the next, or male one hour and female the next." Sure seems like he's trying to draw that line to me. Reminds me of the Glen Beck special on Socialism, Nazism and healthcare. I was wrong about Gottfried's teacher being Hockheimer, it was Marcuse. Hockheimer had returned to Germany at that point. I'll give Peterson the benefit of the doubt in terms of using such loaded terminology unless I see something blatantly antisemitic from him. Spencer's politics are identity politics (as are Gottfrieds), but no-one that's actually read any Frankfurt School material would say they are a product of the "Frankfurt School" or "Marxism".