James Toney vs Andre Ward at 168 pounds

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  1. treelo

    treelo Brown Belt

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    Indeed, and Toney was never a busy guy above middle, Ward is seriously underated IMO
     
  2. zapataxiv

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    while one of the reasons why mike schooled toney the first time and RJJ embarrassed Toney is because he isn't the best against people who know how to move and Mike and roy were masters of that. Now Ward aint no slouch in that department either it would certainly be interesting. I would also be interested to see how Toney responded to Ward when he starts getting a little creative with the rules of boxing.
     
  3. ssx

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    Tough one. As already stated, Toney was probably the better overall fighter with more power and the better chin. Ward was far more consistent.
    Both at their best, I’d favor Toney to win a 116-112 decision. Over a series of 10 fights, I’d say it would go 5-5 or even lean slightly towards Ward.
     
  4. Hagler

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    Excellent fight. Ward being Ward, he wouldn't play into Toney's best weapons and he'd probably fight the exact opposite way he took on Kovalev. Jabs and straights and lateral movement. That could end up in a draw or a razonr close JD. I fancy Ward for his adjustments and his wider range of abilities, but it's extremely close to call.
     
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    It's a head scratcher, I honestly don't know who to pick. Ward fighting on the inside to get to Kov then eventually functioning well at Kov's range later in the first fight showed me Ward can adjust to just about any situation, I mean I never really saw someone "solve" Ward. But then again, Ward always came in 100% on his game. That's the biggest xfactor here for me. Consistency. They are both way too classy to start saying one schools the other, but Toney did show more vunerabilities imo.
     
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  6. Old Cat

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    Whoa! That would be a fight.

    Dre finds a away to win IMO. The guy is a winner, that’s what he does.

    James was not focused enough to keep Dre from taking the close rounds on the way to a decision.

    Shoot, I would sho-nuff pay to see if I’m right.
     
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  7. Stormtrooper85

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    If we're taking the best version of Toney to fight Ward and saying he's at his best for this fight. I'd have to take Toney probably 116 - 112
    Ward is an excellent technical fighter but everything he excelled at I feel Toney was so natural at and better in a lot of areas (Punching and Defense being largest among those things)
     
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    Probably Toney wins, but not without its level of drama. Dre likes to fight from in the cut, Toney relishes being in the cut. Being an overall harder puncher and probably having a soght edge in the skill level I take James Toney to win a close decision. This is of course assuming a motivated in shape Toney showes up at 168.
     

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