Jon Jones claimes Chael Sonnen took steroids his whole career because he had low test

Jones didn't get popped for low testosterone. He got popped for an out of balance testosterone to epitestosterone ratio.

Not at all the same thing.

Also, Cormier popped for the same thing only marginally better numbers.

However, Jones follow-up tests on the same samples didn't show any masking agents or steroids so....clean.

Chael on the other hand got busted repeatedly and in spectactular fashion in his last go where they found 5 banned substances.
How old is Cormier again? That would explain the "numbers"
 
Jones was actually correct about Chael always being a roider. Chael has since admitted it.

In this case, Jones CIR tests show he's clean but he's still a hypocrite because, well, because he is, damm it all. LOL

Typical Sherdog. Take what you want to see and ignore everything else that doesn't fit your preconceived notions.
 
Jones was actually correct about Chael always being a roider. Chael has since admitted it.

In this case, Jones CIR tests show he's clean but he's still a hypocrite because, well, because he is, damm it all. LOL

Typical Sherdog. Take what you want to see and ignore everything else that doesn't fit your preconceived notions.

Er, he's a hypocrite for the derogatory comments he made about recreational drug use and then going on to use himself.

Does anyone have a link to official notice of the clean CIR tests or is that just still hearsay atm?
 
They guy just shouldn't talk anymore. It's no wonder why no one likes the guy. He is now truly a heel.
 
Jones was actually correct about Chael always being a roider. Chael has since admitted it.

In this case, Jones CIR tests show he's clean but he's still a hypocrite because, well, because he is, damm it all. LOL

Typical Sherdog. Take what you want to see and ignore everything else that doesn't fit your preconceived notions.

Those tests only show that he hasn't recently used any steroids, but low testosterone shows that he used steroids in the past. I think you are the one who has an ignoring issue instead.
 
Those tests only show that he hasn't recently used any steroids, but low testosterone shows that he used steroids in the past. I think you are the one who has an ignoring issue instead.

Like I said, you armchair Dr's will believe whatever you want to believe and if you see people saying anything to support that, it proves it in your minds. When someone says something that disproves it, you ignore it.

I'm honest enough to say I don't know what the fuck these tests really mean and I don't believe you do either.

http://sports.yahoo.com/news/nevada...esults-show-no-signs-of-doping-013131428.html

Dr. Christiane Ayotte, the head of the WADA-accredited laboratory in Montreal, saw no problem with Jones' T/E ratio.
One way to manipulate a T/E ratio downward would be to take epitestosterone, but Ayotte said that would be easily detected in a screening.
"I read the interviews of 'specialists' on that topic [in MMA media accounts], and, well, I am sorry, but such T/E values are not at all abnormal," she said. "
 
Hearts of champions don't use steroids...they use cocaine!
 
When there's championship level money involved there's very little incentive to stay clean; especially if you're a fighter. Even the best fighter in the world has taken a beating at one point or another, they know it can happen and it haunts them. Everyone's afraid, everyone wants to be rich and successful, and everyone who's taken it that far is willing to do whatever it takes.
 
None of the stuff that he's done prevents him from being a Christian. The fact the we are all intrinsically sinners and need only ask for forgiveness to be accepted to heaven is central to their doctrine.

"Let who is without sin cast the first stone." - John 8:7

This is why people laugh at Jones' christianity. It isn't because he sins so much as it is that he condemns others for the same shortcomings he possesses. He has done it time and again, with hilarious results.
 
I don't disagree, but Jones is just trying to deflect atm
 
Biggest hypocrite out of all the fighters in UFC history.

His small, but delusional fan base just refuses to see it.

Enlighten me old wise one, just what is it we refuse to see? Because I'm having a hard time seeing past the sore and sour haters...
 
Jones didn't get popped for low testosterone. He got popped for an out of balance testosterone to epitestosterone ratio.

Not at all the same thing.

ppl need realize this. can't expect ppl on here to be rocket scientists, but at least look into what you are trying to talk about.
 
interesting that now he cant say shit about PEDs with his T/E ratio

 
Jones didn't get popped for low testosterone. He got popped for an out of balance testosterone to epitestosterone ratio.

Not at all the same thing.

Also, Cormier popped for the same thing only marginally better numbers.

However, Jones follow-up tests on the same samples didn't show any masking agents or steroids so....clean.

Chael on the other hand got busted repeatedly and in spectactular fashion in his last go where they found 5 banned substances.

you seem to be the main Jones defendant in several threads. Nitpicking and semantics won't help your boy. Now that his T to P levels were suspiciously low, everyone is going to pay close attention to that, and it's just a matter of time before he gets popped.
 
Jones didn't get popped for low testosterone. He got popped for an out of balance testosterone to epitestosterone ratio.
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Jones has ridiculously low testosterone. 30ng/ml -60 ng/ml is normal range. jones posted 0.59, 1.8 and 4.9.
 
Sonnen admitted a long time ago he has been on TRT forever... So what's the issue?
 
There was nothing abnormal about Jones T test. The ratio is fine. Both T and EpiT are signaled by LH for production. That's just his natural ratio. If T was suppressed from steroids EpiT would follow. Two things would happen if he was using. T would be high and EpiT low. Say 8:1 or both would be suppressed in unison following a cycle.

Anyone who has used gear can look at JJ's physical appearance and tell he isn't running gear.
 
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