Law Kansas: Welfare Money Is Not For Tattoo, Psychic, Casino, Lottery, Alcohol, Lingeries

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New Kansas Law Limits Spending of Welfare Benefits on Concerts, Tattoos, Psychics, Lingeries
April 16th 2015, 4:45 pm

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Gov. Sam Brownback signs a welfare reform bill into law in Topeka, Kansas., Thursday, April 16, 2015.

TOPEKA, Kan.
 
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Kansas lawmakers move to lift ATM limits for welfare

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A $25 limit on welfare recipients’ ATM withdrawals that drew national attention to Kansas may be on its way out.

The Senate voted 28-11 Saturday for a bill that would allow the secretary of children and families to raise the limit — or eliminate it if necessary — to comply with conditions of the federal grants that fund the Temporary Assistance for Needy Families program.

The House was expected to follow suit and approve the bill.

Officials of the U.S. Department of Health and Human Services have told McClatchy Newspapers that the ATM limit was under review over whether it complies with federal regulations requiring that welfare recipients have adequate access to their benefits without having to pay excessive fees.

Benefits are issued on an ATM debit card. Each transaction costs the recipient $1, plus potentially larger private ATM fees.

The state receives about $102 million a year for the program. Benefits for a family of four top out about $500 a month.

The $25 withdrawal limit became national news in conjunction with other limits the Legislature put on welfare recipients.

The bill also banned them from spending Temporary Assistance for Needy Families money on a long list of goods and services deemed by lawmakers as too luxurious or frivolous.

Activities banned ranged from strip clubs and cruise ships to swimming pools, sports events, movies and theme parks.

Democratic senators argued against the bill, saying they wanted a full repeal of the ATM restriction and cuts in the list of banned activities.


Sen. Oletha Faust-Goudeau, a Wichita Democrat, said having to be on welfare is already embarrassing and the restrictions in the bill “further belittle those who find themselves in situations where they need assistance.”

Sen. David Haley, a Kansas City Democrat, said the welfare restriction “gives a black eye to Kansans” and makes the state look mean and petty. Haley, who is black, told his predominantly white colleagues that the face of poverty in the state “looks more like you than me.”

Sen. Michael O’Donnell, a Wichita Republican who carried the original bill on the floor, said he found Haley’s rhetoric “a little bombastic.”

“If that was political or racial,” he said, “I’m not sure.”

Sen. Mary Pilcher-Cook, a Shawnee Republican, said the restrictions are designed to get welfare recipients working and improve their self-esteem.

“This was not done to save money, quite the contrary,” she said. “Everyone here in this body wants to do the right thing. … To insinuate otherwise is degrading.”

The money for welfare is “taken” from other Kansans and the Legislature has a duty to see it spent responsibly, said Sen. Steve Fitzgerald, a Leavenworth Republican. He called opposition to the restrictions “political theater masquerading as concern.”


http://www.kansascity.com/news/government-politics/article23312298.html
 
It will be fun to watch that state descend further and further into the zhithole.
 
Are corporations beggars??? Because more of our taxes go to corporations and a smaller amount to the poor.
 
I don't see a problem with this. Do people think it should be used for that stuff? We're told to support welfare because they're struggling to eat and provide good shelter. Not because they're bored.

lol @Psychics...poor people
 
Are corporations beggars??? Because more of our taxes go to corporations and a smaller amount to the poor.

Why can't the two issues be looked at seperately? I swear, in every welfare fraud thread, someone pulls the "well what about big coroporations?!?!" line out.
 
I don't see a problem with this. Do people think it should be used for that stuff? We're told to support welfare because they're struggling to eat and provide good shelter. Not because they're bored.

lol @Psychics...poor people

May be the thousands upon thousands of registered Democrats in the War Room can help explains this to the rest of us neutrals:

In a statement after the signing, Senate Minority Leader Democrat Anthony Hensley called the law "a punitive and highly judgmental piece of legislation" that would make it harder for Kansans to escape poverty.
 
May be the thousands upon thousands of registered Democrats in the War Room can help explains this to the rest of us neutrals:

How can you feed your kids if you can't advertise your booty with a tramp stamp and a g-string?
 
That sucks for the psychics. If trailer trash can't see them, who will?

I see nothing wrong with this. I thought the point of welfare was to cover absolute necessities while people get jobs and get back on their feet, not to make unemployment as comfortable as possible.
 
May be the thousands upon thousands of registered Democrats in the War Room can help explains this to the rest of us neutrals:

Neutral here.

It sends the message that the poor spending their welfare money on concerts, tattoos, psychics, and lingerie instead of necessities is an actual problem to begin with, thus perpetuating the great American culture of shitting on the poor and everyone being "one big break" away from being the next Steve Jobs.

Basically, it's meaningless platitudes to misdirect everyone from the fact that Kansas is turning into a raging dumpster fire.
 
I'm torn. I think its insane for welfare to go to certain things, yet I can't get as worked up about this after the whole financial meltdown in 2008... If we cared as much about white collar financial crime as we did welfare recipients, the nation would be in a much better place. But alas, people are always going to look down the socioeconomic scale when it comes to these things because it's easier to understand.
 
Is all going toward meth anyways.
 
Neutral here.

It sends the message that the poor spending their welfare money on concerts, tattoos, psychics, and lingerie instead of necessities is an actual problem to begin with, thus perpetuating the great American culture of shitting on the poor and everyone being "one big break" away from being the next Steve Jobs.

Basically, it's meaningless platitudes to misdirect everyone from the fact that Kansas is turning into a raging dumpster fire.

Pretty much this.
 
Neutral here.

It sends the message that the poor spending their welfare money on concerts, tattoos, psychics, and lingerie instead of necessities is an actual problem to begin with, thus perpetuating the great American culture of shitting on the poor and everyone being "one big break" away from being the next Steve Jobs.

Basically, it's meaningless platitudes to misdirect everyone from the fact that Kansas is turning into a raging dumpster fire.

It is a problem. It's not even a little bit what it's for. Maybe taxpayers are missing out on seeing psychics and concerts because of money they lose to welfare recipients. We pay the tax for people in need of food, shelter, utilities, etc. I don't have a problem with that and if that's good enough for them forever. Then fine. However, None of this shit is needed. If they aren't blowing taxpayer money on shit that isn't necessary(like those listed in the OP) then these restrictions are nothing to get in an uproar about. The uproar isn't because they are offended by the assumption. They are pissed they are losing perks that have no place in a taxpayer funded welfare system.

It's simply putting welfare where it should have always been in the first place. Strictly welfare. Silly politicians just know that restricting the amount of "fun fun fun" people can have on welfare...means people will realize being on welfare sucks.
 
Neutral here.

It sends the message that the poor spending their welfare money on concerts, tattoos, psychics, and lingerie instead of necessities is an actual problem to begin with, thus perpetuating the great American culture of shitting on the poor and everyone being "one big break" away from being the next Steve Jobs.

Basically, it's meaningless platitudes to misdirect everyone from the fact that Kansas is turning into a raging dumpster fire.

"Sends the message"? To whom? If it's not an actual problem, this legislation shouldn't matter. If anything, this benefits the children of welfare recipients by eliminating irresponsible parents' ability to spend the money elsewhere.
 
Some of this is obviously very petty; one of the banned expenditures is the public pool. That is just being mean because they can. Other than that, I find it almost impossible to argue for tattoos, casinos, liquor,

If this weren't Kansas, a right wing policy Petri dish, this wouldn't even be make a blip on the national radar.


I agree 100% with sodapop re: white collar crimes. Has Dodd-Frank even been fully implemented or are lobbyists still peeling it apart like an onion?
 
It will be fun to watch that state descend further and further into the zhithole.

Kansas is actually quite the awesome state. But you're right... I don't know how I will be able to escape poverty, not that all of my Johns won't be able to poke my ass with their food stamp money.
 
How do they spend money on concerts and psychics? Like, how does a process like that happen?
 
Kansas is actually quite the awesome state. But you're right... I don't know how I will be able to escape poverty, not that all of my Johns won't be able to poke my ass with their food stamp money.

From an economic standpoint, Kansas is working hard to be a shit hole.
 
i hate this - makes USA look like a farking nanny state - and we already have enuff of those. Does it stop them buying guns? that would be going too far.
 
Kansas is actually quite the awesome state.

Yes between the completely flat landscape, tornadoes, people who want to rebuke science, and all the poor-hating I just cant understand why everyone wouldnt want to move there.
 
They just keep taking our freedoms
 
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