Legal actions against your display of BJJ

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Hey guys,

Been away for a while, injuries and work keeping me on the sideline from training but been able to stay somewhat active. Anyways, relating to my topic, I recently attended a staff function with my wife and one of her co-workers got super drunk and began harassing a lot of people. Making the women feel uncomfortable and getting in the guys faces, it's actually amazing they didn't do anything themselves. I ordered this guy a cab after he dumped a drink all over a woman, I kept everyone pretty calm and began to escort him outside to the cab, he took a swing at me and I tripped him and choked him out with his jacket with a Gi choke variation and positioning knee on belly. I guess my knee on belly cracked a couple of ribs and now he's trying to sue me. I have many witnesses that can defend my actions so I'm not too worried about it, I was just curious to hear if any of you had similar situations and how they played out. Thanks guys, great to be back.
 
ER visit and police report = U r fucked!

Always call 911 first, but u should already know that now.

It's not like the movies or UFC!

U can't commit potentially life threatening assault on people who know the law and have the means to hire competent representation!

Just pray an ambitious DA doesn't get wind of U.

Good luck!
 
CFGroup said:
ER visit and police report = U r fucked!

Always call 911 first, but u should already know that now.

It's not like the movies or UFC!

U can't commit potentially life threatening assault on people who know the law and have the means to hire competent representation!

Just pray an ambitious DA doesn't get wind of U.

Good luck!
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CFGroup said:
ER visit and police report = U r fucked!

Always call 911 first, but u should already know that now.

It's not like the movies or UFC!

U can't commit potentially life threatening assault on people who know the law and have the means to hire competent representation!

Just pray an ambitious DA doesn't get wind of U.

Good luck!
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How is this not a clear case of self defense?
 
Best to leave the scene after an assault... even in a case that could be self defense. Unless someone got killed or you severely maimed someone I highly doubt the police will get info about you and try to track you down.
 
I think you would've been better off not choking the guy out and using a different position of control.

The thing about civil cases is that even if you're not legally liable, a judge can still find you financially liable. Also, just because you have witnesses doesn't mean those witnesses are willing to testify on your behalf. It's going to come down to the judge. Are they a big fan of self defense and believe you acted accordingly? Or is he/she the type that will suggest that you did not make a reasonable effort to withdraw from the situation? Also, how well informed is the judge about chokes? Do they consider choking someone to sleep to be excessive?

If you're lucky, maybe your umbrella policy will cover you, assuming you have one. Good luck.
 
Hey guys,

Thanks for the input so far, I should clarify that I live in Canada as well so our legal suit system is a little bit different than some places around the globe. I know in the US people can claim a lawsuit for almost any reason, not so much here. Also the penalty of taking someone to court here is if you lose being the plaintiff or defense than you have to pay the opposite party law fees and whatever damages may incur. This guy at the moment is crying lawsuit cause he got embarrassed in front of all the people he works with. I have solid representation if needed and they advised me this guy is crying wolf, but I thank you all for your replies, I was just curious to hear other stories or situations as mine has pretty much played its course for now.
 
He took a swing at you. You were afraid of being hurt and responded in kind. Fuck that guy. I don't know anything about Canadian law but looks like a clear case of self defense.
 
CFGroup said:
ER visit and police report = U r fucked!

Always call 911 first, but u should already know that now.

It's not like the movies or UFC!

U can't commit potentially life threatening assault on people who know the law and have the means to hire competent representation!

Just pray an ambitious DA doesn't get wind of U.

Good luck!
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Lol at ambitious DA picking up a shitty assault case like this and anybody caring about it.

What's he going to get a name for, specializing in petty assault cases?

You are correct about the wisdom of calling 911 and reporting that the guy attacked you.
 
MaxMMA said:
Best to leave the scene after an assault... even in a case that could be self defense. Unless someone got killed or you severely maimed someone I highly doubt the police will get info about you and try to track you down.
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However, if they did find you, leaving the scene always makes you look worse.
 
EGDM said:
However, if they did find you, leaving the scene always makes you look worse.
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I would have to agree, however i would assume a police officer showing Up to a scence where one guy just got "beat up" isn't going to spend any significant time on his shift collecting information about and then tracking down some random misdemeanor assault charge.
 
MaxMMA said:
I would have to agree, however i would assume a police officer showing Up to a scence where one guy just got "beat up" isn't going to spend any significant time on his shift collecting information about and then tracking down some random misdemeanor assault charge.
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Cracked ribs isn't misdemeanor.

In my state anything that puts you in front of a Doc is class B.

Just call the friggin cops!

One of the tricks I learned at my old inner city shelter job is to take out my phone and yell at escalating parties I'm calling the cops before wading in to the physical stuff. I've used that since then with bar and street fights to cool beer muscles down.

Nobody wants to go to jail.

Works like a charm.
 
You do the crime, you do the time.

So go tell the judge and tell him that your knee on belly sucks because you should not be able to crack ribs doing that technique but sometimes people turns away and could possibly cause cracked ribs which I never seen even in hardcore competitions matches.

Not sure if the judge would be happy you trying to strangle a person as well.
 
I had a potential fight at one of my wife's work events that eventually got deescalated by some other people. The main thing that stopped me was not wanting to anger my wife.

All that to say, I like your style.
 
In Canada you can defend yourself with any force that is absolutely necessary. It comes down to your rationalization of using force. If he attempted to strike you, then almost any force is fine as long as you dont use a weapon. Strikes are potentially lethal on the street. When it comes to the choke the issue is was it necessary for you to choke him? or could you control him without the choke? If he is flailing and could potentially hurt himself or you then you had to choke him to prevent injury to him or yourself you should be fine. That being said anytime you physically have to control someone you open yourself up to lawsuits/legal intervention. Best defense is to avoid fighting.

-none of this should be taken as legal advice-
 
lechien said:
You do the crime, you do the time.

So go tell the judge and tell him that your knee on belly sucks because you should not be able to crack ribs doing that technique but sometimes people turns away and could possibly cause cracked ribs which I never seen even in hardcore competitions matches.

Not sure if the judge would be happy you trying to strangle a person as well.
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You make a sound point. What kind of worthless bitch suffers cracked ribs from KoB.
 
OP, in the event that you get sued, it's possible that your home insurer will defend and indemnify you, depending on your home insurance. Check with your insurer.
 
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