Lmao at all Sherdogers sleeping on "Storm" Shlemenko.

[TCE]

Moose got one hell of a gift decision there.

He got the first round, but he got worked after that.

100% this.

 

[Draxton]

mousasi almost lost to a WW

Nah man, he’s a middleweight.

 

[LHWBelt]

I don't see many people shitting on Storm. Opposite really, seems the vast majority in the pbp had him winning the fight.

I'll agree he is underrated and even though I was cheering for him I thought going in he would lose. The eye definitely hurt Moose's striking, but Storm is the one who caused that damage landing a big punch early. Definitely don't agree with the decision.

Moose obviously got round 1 and Storm round 3, comes down to round 2. Just hate how a guy can be losing in the stand-up for 4 minutes but get a takedown in that last minute that leads to nothing but failed submission attempts and wins the round on points.

If he was getting owned in the stand up in round 2 it's different. He was slightly outpointing him, I think that's different. He owned him in round 3 in the stand up but the 2nd round he missed most of those shots and he never had him hurt and Moose was actually getting him back with a jab and such.

 

[eseseses681]

I don't see many people shitting on Storm.

You have not been involved in many Sasha discussions on here then.

 

[Shoot Boxe Hero]

If he was getting owned in the stand up in round 2 it's different. He was slightly outpointing him, I think that's different. He owned him in round 3 in the stand up but the 2nd round he missed most of those shots and he never had him hurt and Moose was actually getting him back with a jab and such.

Yea he definitely didn't put in the work standing in round 2 like he did in round 3. But I'd say 4 mins of slightly outpointing is still better than 1 minute of back control with no close sub and no ground n pound. But that's just me

 

[Thaijitsu612]

I had it as a draw.

10-8 Shlemenko in the third, second could have gone either way.

No way Moose won that fight. Storm win or draw.

I wouldn't go 10-8 in the third at all. Moose was always fighting back and attempting offense, never badly hurt besides the previous eye injury.

How can you say "no way moose won"? No way in hell was round three a definitive 10-8. You yourself said moose got round two. So if round three is not 10-8, that's how moose wins

 

[MaKaSo]

He did better than all the UFC MW that actually beat moose? Doubt that

 

[LHWBelt]

Yea he definitely didn't put in the work standing in round 2 like he did in round 3. But I'd say 4 mins of slightly outpointing is still better than 1 minute of back control with no close sub and no ground n pound. But that's just me

Maybe it should have been a draw. Honestly the stand up was fairly even that round.

 

[Shoot Boxe Hero]

You have not been involved in many Sasha discussions on here then.

I think TS was just talking about tonight's fight, but I could be wrong.

 

[Jawth]

I wouldn't go 10-8 in the third at all. Moose was always fighting back and attempting offense, never badly hurt besides the previous eye injury.

How can you say "no way moose won"? No way in hell was round three a definitive 10-8. You yourself said moose got round two. So if round three is not 10-8, that's how moose wins

Round 3 WAS a 10-8. Mousasi was sucessful with nothing and looked pathetic. Was even outgrappled.

 

[Jawth]

He did better than all the UFC MW that actually beat moose? Doubt that

Did you see the fight? Moose got owned in the third. Crowd booed the shit out of him as the decision wad read.

 

[GueseGuy]

He’s very good but I don’t see how Mousasi doesn’t win. Shlemenko’s spinning shit won’t save him here. Inb4 Uriah Hall gif. Moose will pick him apart on the feet.

Fight happened bruh

 

[Toco]

Nah man, he’s a middleweight.

a really small one

 

[Hardcore MMA]

I was saying all along that Shlemenko was not a scrub when people were dismissing this fight. Shlemenko is a beast and the fight could have gone either way according to the way most people are looking at it. Shlemenko could easily beat Carvalho.

 

[Feniamin]

Shlemenko is better than anyone Bisping has fought recently.

I dunno if it was mentioned but Shlemenko said that he trained in US with Bisping for this fight (his training camp were mostly in Russia and I think a week or two before the fight he spend in US). And it's not the first time they trained together.

 

[That209]

Fight happened bruh

Oh, lol, and he got destroyed in the 3rd or something? goddammit, Moose.

 

[synyster]

Storm won that fight, I'll be honest I had gegard as my pick but in my mind it was a 50/50 toss up not for a second did I count the Storm out he has been one of my fav fighters for a long time and I was rooting for him despite thinking he would fall short, and technically he did but we all know who won that fight

 

[TheGrouch]

 

[Mike Haggar]

FWIW here is the scoring criteria for a 10-8 round under the 2017 rules. Moose was countering and defending, he wasn't rocked and stumbling around, I can't see a 10-8 round but that's just my opinion.

Under the former rules it's even more difficult to score a 10-8.

Spoiler: 10-8 criteria

A 10-8 Round in MMA is where one fighter wins the round by a large margin.

A 10-8 round in MMA is not the most common score a judge will render, but it is absolutely essential to the evolution of the sport and the fairness to the fighters that judges understand and effectively utilize the score of 10-8. A score of 10-8 does not require a fighter to dominate their opponent for 5 minutes of a round. The score of 10-8 is utilized by the judge when the judge sees verifiable actions on the part of either fighter. Judges shall ALWAYS give a score of 10-8 when the judge has established that one fighter has dominated the action of the round, had duration of the domination and also impacted their opponent with either effective strikes or effective grappling maneuvers that have diminished the abilities of their opponent.

Judges must CONSIDER giving the score of 10-8 when a fighter shows dominance in the round even though no impactful scoring against the opponent was achieved. MMA is an offensive based sport. No scoring is given for defensive maneuvers. Using smart, tactically sound defensive maneuvers allows the fighter to stay in the fight and to be competitive. Dominance of a round can be seen in striking when the losing fighter continually attempts to defend, with no counters or reaction taken when openings present themselves. Dominance in the grappling phase can be seen by fighters taking DOMINANT POSITIONS in the fight and utilizing those positions to attempt fight ending submissions or attacks. If a fighter has little to no offensive output during a 5 minute round, it should be normal for the judge to consider awarding the losing fighter 8 points instead of 9.

Judges must CONSIDER giving the score of 10-8 when a fighter IMPACTS their opponent significantly in a round even though they do not dominate the action. Effectiveness in striking or grappling which leads to a diminishing of a fighter’s energy, confidence, abilities and spirit. All of these come as a direct result of negative impact. When a fighter is hurt with strikes, showing a lack of control or ability, these can be defining moments in the fight. If a judge sees that a fighter has been significantly damaged in the round the judge should CONSIDER the score of 10-8.

Impact

A judge shall assess if a fighter impacts their opponent significantly in the round, even though they may not have dominated the action. Impact includes visible evidence such as swelling and lacerations. Impact shall also be assessed when a fighter’s actions, using striking and/or grappling, lead to a diminishing of their opponents’ energy, confidence, abilities and spirit. All of these come as a direct result of impact. When a fighter is impacted with strikes, by lack of control and/or ability, this can create defining moments in the round and shall be assessed with great value.

Dominance

As MMA is an offensive based sport, dominance of a round can be seen in striking when the losing fighter is forced to continually defend, with no counters or reaction taken when openings present themselves. Dominance in the grappling phase can be seen by fighters taking dominant positions in the fight and utilizing those positions to attempt fight ending submissions or attacks. Merely holding a dominant position(s) shall not be a primary factor in assessing dominance. What the fighter does with those positions is what must be assessed.

Duration

Duration is defined by the time spent by one fighter effectively attacking, controlling and impacting their opponent; while the opponent offers little to no offensive output. A judge shall assess duration by recognizing the relative time in a round when one fighter takes and maintains full control of the effective offense. This can be assessed both standing and grounded

 

[Erocthadon]

He’s very good but I don’t see how Mousasi doesn’t win. Shlemenko’s spinning shit won’t save him here. Inb4 Uriah Hall gif. Moose will pick him apart on the feet.

You know they fought tonight, right?