Luke Thomas: Tenshin is much better striker than Conor

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  1. Dr Hannibal Lecter

    Dr Hannibal Lecter Gentlemen, this is democracy manifest! Platinum Member

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    Boxers? Lol, no way. Ray Mercer quit a kickboxing match simply because getting high kicked was just too much for him to deal with. Like straight up just called it a day after only one high kick.

    Boxers whole foot work, defense and distancing aren't made to deal with anything else than punches. And even then they can't deal with anything below their belly button with punches either. They don't have to worry about knees or low kicks when they clinch. They can just lean on each other with no real fear.

    Glory is also limited in their rules, but already a lot less. Make it Thai rules for maximum striking techniques, but take out throws and sweeps.
     
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    bocajarro Orange Belt

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    Of course he is. He's not saying he's a better MMA fighter, but striking wise, he's way ahead.
     
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    Are you implying that Conor's striking is better than Tenshin's???!!!
    Obviously fightsports ain't your thang....
     
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    Not every. But many for sure.
     
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    Conor has good kicks, he has a good arsenal for creating space and in the Nate II fight he shown he can be offensive with them. They're not super dangerous, but his kicks are far from very bad just not at a high kickboxing level. His defense on the other hand, he fights with a wide and heavy stance which could hinder him.
     
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    That last guy got fucking corpsed.
     
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    I don't think using an old, fat Ray Mercer who didn't even try to learn to kickbox is a great example.
     
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    Ok, so on that logic why don't they bring their far superior striking to MMA and become multimillionaire megastars like the inferior Conor instead of struggling in boxing? If the logic is that their striking is far superior to Conor, who allegedly has awful grappling too, then with minimal grappling they will be champions, why spend a life getting beat up for scraps in low tier boxing. Anyway, believe what you prefer but all the "everyone is better then Conor at striking/grappling" silliness is becoming ridiculous and also undermines his skills and the talent of the great fighters he beat with his poor striking ...
     
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    He wasn't that old and fat at the time. The point is that it illustrates how alien it is to them.

    Why woulf they need to learn kickboxing? Aren't boxers already the most elite strikers? They can use all their boxing skills to their heart's delight.
     
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    High level boxers and kickboxers are generally better strikers than McGregor. That was always the case, unless people actually believed the nonsense that he spouted about him being a once in a lifetime fighter lol
     
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    It's simply one form of striking, but boxing historically has produced the best athletes due to it's popularity, cultural diversity and extensive history. I think an elite boxer could cross over if they took it seriously but it would never happen. It makes no sense financially.
     
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    He isn't some great boxer. Stick him in with any current top 10 LMW and he gets embarrassed and smashed. the small gloves and the fact that he isn't fighting elite level strikers is one of the reasons why Conor has had his success in MMA. For MMA he is a very good striker, but put himin 8 oz gloves, a ring and any top level boxer his weight, he gets knocked out quick
     
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    I have no idea why anyone listens to Luke Thomas about anything. Even when he's right, he rarely makes a persuasive, informed argument. I can't believe he gets paid for his opinions on the sport.
     
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    Something off about that second to last KO.

    He was laid out but his eyes weren't glossy.
     
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    We're not talking historical. We are talking current day. Boxing is much less popular than it once was and quick google search told me that world wide in 2011 there were about 17K pro boxers world wide. There are 60K pro Thai boxers in Thailand alone. So not that deep a talent pool if you think about it.

    If a boxer would cross over he'd have to forget so much of what he knows and have to learn so much stuff all over, he'd be disadvantaged in both having to overcome bad boxing habits and being so far behind on the learning curve compared to fighters who have been doing it since they were kids or teens.
     
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    Arkham's Notorious Geyser Wake up Kids we've got the Blessed Era disease

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    We're getting it from all angles here lol. Conor is getting thrashed left and right by the media, and within the community forums. When the man retires, he'll get the peace and respect he never got when he was active.
     
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    He’d definitely be the ufc flw,bw,fw and lw champion in the ufc. Maybe ww too.
     
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    Are we really on this shit again? Gonor has been finished by guys without a Wikipedia page.
     
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    Connor went 0 - 2 in cage rage!
     
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    I think Conor the man is probably a good dude, I think the character Conor is playing is a rotten scoundrel.
     

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