Mainstream music nowadays is mostly trash

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  1. phoenixikki

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    After randomly hearing Der Kommissar by After The Fire for the thousand time I wanted to see how it performed back then. Astonishingly it only reached place 30th. This is the Billboard Year-End Hot 100 singles of 1983, and it is full of high quality music with real heart and creativity behind it.

    № Title Artist(s)
    1 "Every Breath You Take" The Police
    2 "Billie Jean" Michael Jackson
    3 "Flashdance... What a Feeling" Irene Cara
    4 "Down Under" Men at Work
    5 "Beat It" Michael Jackson
    6 "Total Eclipse of the Heart" Bonnie Tyler
    7 "Maneater" Hall & Oates
    8 "Baby, Come to Me" Patti Austin and James Ingram
    9 "Maniac" Michael Sembello
    10 "Sweet Dreams (Are Made of This)" Eurythmics
    11 "Do You Really Want to Hurt Me" Culture Club
    12 "You and I" Eddie Rabbitt and Crystal Gayle
    13 "Come On Eileen" Dexys Midnight Runners
    14 "Shame on the Moon" Bob Seger & The Silver Bullet Band
    15 "She Works Hard for the Money" Donna Summer
    16 "Never Gonna Let You Go" Sérgio Mendes
    17 "Hungry Like the Wolf" Duran Duran
    18 "Let's Dance" David Bowie
    19 "Twilight Zone" Golden Earring
    20 "I Know There's Something Going On" Frida
    21 "Jeopardy" The Greg Kihn Band
    22 "Electric Avenue" Eddy Grant
    23 "She Blinded Me with Science" Thomas Dolby
    24 "Africa" Toto
    25 "Little Red Corvette" Prince
    26 "Back on the Chain Gang" The Pretenders
    27 "Up Where We Belong" Joe Cocker and Jennifer Warnes
    28 "Mr. Roboto" Styx
    29 "You Are" Lionel Richie
    30 "Der Kommissar" After the Fire
    31 "Puttin' on the Ritz" Taco
    32 "Sexual Healing" Marvin Gaye
    33 "(Keep Feeling) Fascination" The Human League
    34 "Time (Clock of the Heart)" Culture Club
    35 "The Safety Dance" Men Without Hats
    36 "Mickey" Toni Basil
    37 "You Can't Hurry Love" Phil Collins
    38 "Separate Ways (Worlds Apart)" Journey
    39 "One on One" Hall & Oates
    40 "We've Got Tonight" Kenny Rogers and Sheena Easton
    41 "1999" Prince
    42 "Stray Cat Strut" Stray Cats
    43 "Allentown" Billy Joel
    44 "Stand Back" Stevie Nicks
    45 "Tell Her About It" Billy Joel
    46 "Always Something There to Remind Me" Naked Eyes
    47 "Truly" Lionel Richie
    48 "Dirty Laundry" Don Henley
    49 "The Girl Is Mine" Michael Jackson and Paul McCartney
    50 "Too Shy" Kajagoogoo

    51 "Goody Two-Shoes" Adam Ant
    52 "Rock the Casbah" The Clash
    53 "Our House" Madness
    54 "Overkill" Men at Work
    55 "Is There Something I Should Know?" Duran Duran
    56 "Gloria" Laura Branigan
    57 "Affair of the Heart" Rick Springfield
    58 "She's a Beauty" The Tubes
    59 "Solitaire" Laura Branigan
    60 "Don't Let It End" Styx
    61 "How Am I Supposed to Live Without You" Laura Branigan
    62 "China Girl" David Bowie
    63 "Come Dancing" The Kinks
    64 "Promises, Promises" Naked Eyes
    65 "The Other Guy" Little River Band
    66 "Making Love Out of Nothing at All" Air Supply
    67 "Family Man" Hall & Oates
    68 "Wanna Be Startin' Somethin'" Michael Jackson
    69 "I Won't Hold You Back" Toto
    70 "All Right" Christopher Cross
    71 "Straight from the Heart" Bryan Adams
    72 "Heart to Heart" Kenny Loggins
    73 "My Love" Lionel Richie
    74 "I'm Still Standing" Elton John
    75 "Hot Girls in Love" Loverboy
    76 "It's a Mistake" Men at Work
    77 "I'll Tumble 4 Ya" Culture Club
    78 "All This Love" DeBarge
    79 "Your Love Is Driving Me Crazy" Sammy Hagar
    80 "Heartbreaker" Dionne Warwick
    81 "Faithfully" Journey
    82 "Steppin' Out" Joe Jackson
    83 "Take Me to Heart" Quarterflash
    84 "(She's) Sexy + 17" Stray Cats
    85 "Try Again" Champaign
    86 "Dead Giveaway" Shalamar
    87 "Lawyers in Love" Jackson Browne
    88 "What About Me" Moving Pictures
    89 "Human Nature" Michael Jackson
    90 "Photograph" Def Leppard
    91 "Pass the Dutchie" Musical Youth
    92 "True" Spandau Ballet
    93 "Far from Over" Frank Stallone
    94 "I've Got a Rock 'n' Roll Heart" Eric Clapton
    95 "It Might Be You" Stephen Bishop
    96 "Tonight, I Celebrate My Love" Peabo Bryson and Roberta Flack
    97 "You Got Lucky" Tom Petty and the Heartbreakers
    98 "Don't Cry" Asia
    99 "Breaking Us in Two" Joe Jackson
    100 "Fall in Love with Me" Earth, Wind & Fire

    and this is last year's top 100:

    1 "Shape of You" Ed Sheeran
    2 "Despacito" Luis Fonsi and Daddy Yankee featuring Justin Bieber
    3 "That's What I Like" Bruno Mars
    4 "Humble" Kendrick Lamar
    5 "Something Just Like This" The Chainsmokers and Coldplay
    6 "Bad and Boujee" Migos featuring Lil Uzi Vert
    7 "Closer" The Chainsmokers featuring Halsey
    8 "Body Like a Back Road" Sam Hunt
    9 "Believer" Imagine Dragons
    10 "Congratulations" Post Malone featuring Quavo
    11 "Say You Won't Let Go" James Arthur
    12 "I'm the One" DJ Khaled featuring Justin Bieber, Quavo, Chance the Rapper and Lil Wayne
    13 "XO Tour Llif3" Lil Uzi Vert
    14 "Mask Off" Future
    15 "Unforgettable" French Montana featuring Swae Lee
    16 "24K Magic" Bruno Mars
    17 "Stay" Zedd and Alessia Cara
    18 "Wild Thoughts" DJ Khaled featuring Rihanna and Bryson Tiller
    19 "Black Beatles" Rae Sremmurd featuring Gucci Mane
    20 "Starboy" The Weeknd featuring Daft Punk
    21 "Location" Khalid
    22 "Attention" Charlie Puth
    23 "There's Nothing Holdin' Me Back" Shawn Mendes
    24 "Bodak Yellow (Money Moves)" Cardi B
    25 "Redbone" Childish Gambino
    26 "I Don't Wanna Live Forever" Zayn and Taylor Swift
    27 "It Ain't Me" Kygo and Selena Gomez
    28 "iSpy" Kyle featuring Lil Yachty
    29 "Issues" Julia Michaels
    30 "Scars to Your Beautiful" Alessia Cara
    31 "1-800-273-8255" Logic featuring Alessia Cara and Khalid
    32 "Slow Hands" Niall Horan
    33 "Love on the Brain" Rihanna
    34 "I Feel It Coming" The Weeknd featuring Daft Punk
    35 "Bounce Back" Big Sean
    36 "Strip That Down" Liam Payne featuring Quavo
    37 "Fake Love" Drake
    38 "Don't Wanna Know" Maroon 5 featuring Kendrick Lamar
    39 "Look What You Made Me Do" Taylor Swift
    40 "Castle on the Hill" Ed Sheeran
    41 "Bad Things" Machine Gun Kelly and Camila Cabello
    42 "Paris" The Chainsmokers
    43 "Side to Side" Ariana Grande featuring Nicki Minaj
    44 "Rockabye" Clean Bandit featuring Sean Paul and Anne-Marie
    45 "Feel It Still" Portugal. The Man
    46 "Let Me Love You" DJ Snake featuring Justin Bieber
    47 "Sorry Not Sorry" Demi Lovato
    48 "Bank Account" 21 Savage
    49 "Can't Stop the Feeling!" Justin Timberlake
    50 "Mi Gente" J Balvin and Willy William featuring Beyoncé
    51 "Thunder" Imagine Dragons
    52 "T-Shirt" Migos
    53 "Rake It Up" Yo Gotti featuring Nicki Minaj
    54 "Mercy" Shawn Mendes
    55 "Tunnel Vision" Kodak Black
    56 "Rockstar" Post Malone featuring 21 Savage
    57 "In Case You Didn't Know" Brett Young
    58 "Heathens" Twenty One Pilots
    59 "Now or Never" Halsey
    60 "Caroline" Aminé
    61 "Rolex" Ayo & Teo
    62 "DNA" Kendrick Lamar
    63 "Juju on That Beat (TZ Anthem)" Zay Hilfigerrr & Zayion McCall
    64 "Swang" Rae Sremmurd
    65 "Passionfruit" Drake
    66 "Loyalty" Kendrick Lamar featuring Rihanna
    67 "Praying" Kesha
    68 "Goosebumps" Travis Scott featuring Kendrick Lamar
    69 "Cold" Maroon 5 featuring Future
    70 "Broccoli" DRAM featuring Lil Yachty
    71 "Slide" Calvin Harris featuring Frank Ocean and Migos
    72 "What Ifs" Kane Brown featuring Lauren Alaina
    73 "Chained to the Rhythm" Katy Perry featuring Skip Marley
    74 "Feels" Calvin Harris featuring Pharrell Williams, Katy Perry and Big Sean
    75 "All Time Low" Jon Bellion
    76 "Hurricane" Luke Combs
    77 "Too Good at Goodbyes" Sam Smith
    78 "Young Dumb & Broke" Khalid
    79 "Magnolia" Playboi Carti
    80 "Love Galore" SZA featuring Travis Scott
    81 "Drowning" A Boogie wit da Hoodie featuring Kodak Black
    82 "Starving" Hailee Steinfeld and Grey featuring Zedd
    83 "Both" Gucci Mane featuring Drake
    84 "What About Us" Pink
    85 "Swalla" Jason Derulo featuring Nicki Minaj and Ty Dolla Sign
    86 "Slippery" Migos featuring Gucci Mane
    87 "Sign of the Times" Harry Styles
    88 "Water Under the Bridge" Adele
    89 "Malibu" Miley Cyrus
    90 "Down" Marian Hill
    91 "No Promises" Cheat Codes featuring Demi Lovato
    92 "Treat You Better" Shawn Mendes
    93 "I Get the Bag" Gucci Mane featuring Migos
    94 "Small Town Boy" Dustin Lynch
    95 "Everyday We Lit" YFN Lucci featuring PnB Rock
    96 "Havana" Camila Cabello featuring Young Thug
    97 "What Lovers Do" Maroon 5 featuring SZA
    98 "Do Re Mi" Blackbear
    99 "Look at Me!" XXXTentacion
    100 "The Fighter" Keith Urban featuring Carrie Underwood

    As you can see mostly trash without soul or inspiration. Sad.
     
  2. ookii

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    You should list some of the top tracks between 87-89. Its just as trashy but the upside of it was that it took time for people to sort out some of the trash and let some of the better tunes stand the test of time. You probably don't remember the shit they had like Kokomo, Every Rose has its thorns, Warrant etc
     
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    Pitiful.
    At least 90 of those songs are complete and utter soulless shit. And it' s very bad that most are the same genre.
     
  4. ookii

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    Heres what alternative radio KROQ has in their top 1983 play list

    1 Duran Duran Is There Something I Should Know?
    2 Men Without Hats The Safety Dance
    3 The Police Every Breath You Take
    4 Big Country In a Big Country
    5 Culture Club Church of the Poison Mind
    6 David Bowie Let's Dance
    7 Tears for Fears Mad World
    8 Peter Schilling Major Tom (Coming Home)
    9 Duran Duran Union of the Snake
    10 The English Beat I Confess
    11 Culture Club Do You Really Want to Hurt Me
    12 David Bowie Modern Love
    13 Talking Heads Burning Down the House
    14 U2 New Year's Day
    15 Madness Our House
    16 Culture Club I'll Tumble 4 Ya
    17 The Police King of Pain
    18 Greg Kihn Band Jeopardy
    19 The Fixx One Thing Leads to Another
    20 Nena 99 Luftballoons
    21 The Polecats Make a Circuit With Me
    22 Tim Scott Swear
    23 Suicidal Tendencies Institutionalized
    24 The Rolling Stones Undercover of the Night
    25 Culture Club Karma Chameleon
    26 Echo & the Bunnymen Never Stop
    27 Eurythmics Sweet Dreams (Are Made of This)
    28 Adam Ant Strip
    29 Tears for Fears Pale Shelter
    30 The English Beat Save It for Later
    31 Thomas Dolby She Blinded Me With Science
    32 Blancmange Living on the Ceiling
    33 Culture Club Miss Me Blind
    34 Elvis Costello Everyday I Write the Book
    35 Barbie and the Kens Just a Gigolo
    36 The Romantics Talking in Your Sleep
    37 INXS The One Thing
    38 The Cure The Love Cats
    39 Sparks Cool Places
    40 Red Rockers China
    41 Icicle Works Whisper to a Scream (Birds Fly)
    42 The B-52's Whammy Kiss
    43 Bill Nelson Acceleration
    44 The Fixx Saved by Zero
    45 The Police Synchronicity II
    46 Tears for Fears Change
    47 Billy Idol Rebel Yell
    48 Echo & the Bunnymen The Cutter
    49 Siouxsie and the Banshees Dear Prudence
    50 UB40 Red Red Wine
    51 The Cure Let's Go to Bed
    52 Spandau Ballet Lifeline
    53 Duran Duran The Reflex
    54 New Order Blue Monday
    55 Big Country Fields of Fire
    56 Toy Dolls Nellie the Elephant
    57 Adam Ant Puss'n Boots
    58 Haysi Fantayzee Shiny Shiny
    59 Reflex The Politics of Dancing
    60 Thompson Twins Lies
    61 David Bowie China Girl
    62 Eurythmics Love is a Stranger
    63 Pat Wilson Bop Girl
    64 Jimmy the Hoover Tantalize
    65 The B-52's Legal Tender
    66 OMD Radio Waves
    67 Real Life Send Me an Angel
    68 Roman Holiday Don't Try to Stop It
    69 R.E.M. Radio Free Europe
    70 Falco Der Kommisar
    71 The Rolling Stones Too Much Blood
    72 Heaven 17 Let Me Go
    73 Devo Dr. Detroit
    74 Soft Cell It's a Mugs Game
    75 Midnight Oil Power and the Passion
    76 The Psychedelic Furs Love My Way
    77 Bongos Numbers with Wings
    78 INXS Black and White
    79 Freur Doot Doot
    80 Stray Cats (She’s) Sexy and 17
    81 A Flock of Seagulls Wishing (If I Had a Photograph of You)
    82 Grandmaster Flash White Lines (Don't Don't Do It)
    83 Ric Ocasek Gimme Something to Grab For
    84 Howard Devoto Rainy Season
    85 Peter Godwin Baby's in the Mountains
    86 Malcolm McLaren Buffalo Gals
    87 Aztec Camera Oblivious
    88 Sparks All You Ever Think About is Sex
    89 X New World
    90 B-Movie Nowhere Girl
    91 Peter Gabriel Shock the Monkey
    92 Oingo Boingo Nothing Bad Ever Happens
    93 Wham! Young Guns (Go for It)
    94 Spandau Ballet Communication
    95 Cyndi Lauper Girls Just Wanna Have Fun
    96 Public Image Ltd. This is Not a Love Song
    97 Kajagoogoo Too Shy
    98 Bongos Barbarella
    99 Pete Shelley Telephone Operator
    100 The Human League (Keep Feeling) Fascination
    101 Machinations Pressure Sway
    102 The Fixx Red Skies
    103 Burning Sensations Belly of the Whale
    104 JoBoxers Just Got Lucky
    105 A Flock of Seagulls Committed
    106 Dave Edmunds Slipping Away
    106.7. Robert Roll The Dog Boat

    Probably the GOAT year of the 80s. 1985 also would be tied
     
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  5. Senzo Tanaka

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    I legit have heard maybe one of songs in that modern list. There's plenty of good music to be found. It's just not in the mainstream.
     
  6. P0NYBOY

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    I'm finding it overseas but it's likely the fault of the record companies in america not supporting real bands.

    Japan is kicking ass in metal and hard rock and even pop but the Kpop has recently caught up to them.

    India, austria, china, mongolia all have some pretty good bands.
     
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    With so many ways to find and listen to music nowadays it is surprising still so many people listen to mainstream garbage. I guess it proves it's definitely music for people not really interested in music.
     
  8. phoenixikki

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    Could you mention some names?
    Because every time someone says something like this they name some fringe bands that don't present nothing really new or exciting.
     
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    Yep. Music mostly sucks now.
     
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    Name the genre.

    I'm not sure what "don't present nothing" means.
     
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    I agree with you, TS.

    Two things:
    1) I was extra depressed to find precisely zero good songs in the modern chart.
    2) If you were bolding the good songs, you should have chosen every Hall & Oates and Culture Club songs!
     
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    What's the difference between a Michael Jackson song and an Ed Sheeran song. Both are lyrically basic and are performed by people with good voices and appeal to the most basic radio-friendly audience. Regardless of who is a better singer you can't say one is more creative than the other. At least Ed isn't a child molester. Kendrick Lamar is 10x more talented than Kenny Loggins and I could find more examples. I'll be honest theres some shitty music out there now but to dismiss it in it's entirety is ridiculous.
     
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    Music now sucks but the year the safety dance was number 2 was incredible?
     
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    When you compare Sheeran with Jackson you show how you don't understand nothing about music.
     
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    I'm not saying they have the same talent but they make music for the same type of people.

    Edit: Also I'm siding with Rogan on the conspiracy that MJ's dad castrated him.
     
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    At one point i heard how people now think drake is one of the best rappers of all time.
    I thought about killing myself for a bit.
    Then i realized that this whole new generation is retarded and completely useless.
    They are just gonna look for an AP for their phone that feeds them.
     
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    old music has more soul.. the pop music nowadays is
    conserved again and again
     
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    Well, luckily it's far easier nowadays to go hunting for music that isn't mainstream.
     
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    Its for casual music fans who see music in the same veign as fast food.
     
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