Major New Movie 'Active Measures' Brings Rabid Anti-Russianism to the Silver Screen

[HunterSdVa29]

hacked and did what. China is hacking you right now as is russia and as is turkey and france etc and india.

What do you want to do mr tough guy. What exactly do you think they did and why is their hacking somehow worse than what china does daily. The only reason this is getting attention is obvious. It is media hype and the left wing in the country is hoping that Trump (because he is sketych business man) is somehow tied up in this and somehow got help and coordinated with Russians to rig voting machines and other shit.

But your own government agencies say they did not rig the election or machines therefore any hacking is just childish shit and a taste of your own medicine. And is not worth you trying to destroy Russia or weaken your country more internally by acting like kids.

China hacked our entire Office of Personnel Management and stole the identities of every single employee, including myself

good times?
In fact they even copped the background checks, so people that aren't even employed got hacked also. Background checks, personal data/PII, and fingerprints....ganked

 

[Seaside]

Russia actually hacked the voter records in certain states then used that data to send targeted ads to specific people in certain states.

It's a matter of national security and should be taken seriously. Trumpbots just want to discard it because it sullies his victory.

They're not true patriots and you're not even American so your opinion matters less than those fair weather patriots.

Okay sanction only the elites in the government but not the average people. And maybe stop trying to militarily encircle them and turn their allies against them.

Is there by any chance you are against having bases everywhere and coups in latin america and in Ukraine. Do you deny the charge that fellow liberals like your chomsky type heros say about Americas neocon disgusting EVIL foreign policy? That angers Russia and many other countries. I think you guys getting poked back is funny. And it is logically a smart decision for nationalist governments everywhere to try and ally with your right wing parties as they have things in common. The same way that most socialist parties in the EU are internaionally affiliated with other groups globally.

 

[Rational Poster]

Okay sanction only the elites in the government but not the average people. And maybe stop trying to militarily encircle them and turn their allies against them.

Is there by any chance you are against having bases everywhere and coups in latin america and in Ukraine. Do you deny the charge that fellow liberals like your chomsky type heros say about Americas neocon disgusting EVIL foreign policy? That angers Russia and many other countries. I think you guys getting poked back is funny. And it is logically a smart decision for nationalist governments everywhere to try and ally with your right wing parties as they have things in common. The same way that most socialist parties in the EU are internaionally affiliated with other groups globally.

Whatabout something else you said?

 

[abiG]

Russia actually hacked the voter records in certain states then used that data to send targeted ads to specific people in certain states.

It's a matter of national security and should be taken seriously. Trumpbots just want to discard it because it sullies his victory.

They're not true patriots and you're not even American so your opinion matters less than those fair weather patriots.

You are such the hypocrite. 200 Israelis were rounded up in relation to 9/11, they failed multiple lie detector tests, they were held for a couple months or more and then released back to Israel and the entire media pretended as this never happened. They were listening in to all the cops and government cell phones. They knew where they would be and when. Some were caught celebrating, videoing and photographing the event, in a van with explosive residue. They also had 1000s of dollars in a sock and all had plane tickets that very day to different countries. Others were found in a truck loaded with explosives. Others were pretending to be art students and were trying to sell their crap art to some of the highest ranking men in this nation.

The bottom line?

This was the largest spy ring ever uncovered in American soil. They were powerful enough to have their spies shipped home on visa violations and the whole thing classified by our government.

Think of the power that must take and think how that might bode for Americans.

 

[Seaside]

Whatabout something else you said?

i am saying. The hacking on small things and the bots may very well be true. But you are not a moral government or people. You keep saying

´´´well yes we have done tons of bad and that is not good and we should stop and i vote liberal because i want to stop neocon foreign policy but that doesnt mean we should just roll over and let them get away with poking us´´

But i am saying you can be

1) The bigger party here and not start ww3 or hurt the lives of average citizens of Russia
2) Realize their ´meddling´´ is very minor compared to all the poking you have done to them since the collapse of the soviet union when they sought your help but instead you guys didnt and proceeded to kick them down. And then BRAG about influecing their elections and fucking with them.
3) TRY and understand WHY exactly they might feel hostile to US. When the rest of the non American puppets can clearly see that 1 side is disproporinate with its global influence and campaign of terror.
4) I doubt you ever try to understand the opposite side.

It is like you are all possessed in a trance to just not see people or reasons for WHY they do actions.

Let me guess you are against the death penalty? Do you ever think that sometimes people do things for reasons. And it is best to understand what their reasoning is to better prevent future actions or people from feeling conflicted with the reason to want to attack you. If you address the real issues you can prevent the many times justified anger towards the American government.

 

[Rational Poster]

i am saying. The hacking on small things and the bots may very well be true. But you are not a moral government or people. You keep saying

´´´well yes we have done tons of bad and that is not good and we should stop and i vote liberal because i want to stop neocon foreign policy but that doesnt mean we should just roll over and let them get away with poking us´´

But i am saying you can be

1) The bigger party here and not start ww3 or hurt the lives of average citizens of Russia
2) Realize their ´meddling´´ is very minor compared to all the poking you have done to them since the collapse of the soviet union when they sought your help but instead you guys didnt and proceeded to kick them down. And then BRAG about influecing their elections and fucking with them.
3) TRY and understand WHY exactly they might feel hostile to US. When the rest of the non American puppets can clearly see that 1 side is disproporinate with its global influence and campaign of terror.
4) I doubt you ever try to understand the opposite side.

It is like you are all possessed in a trance to just not see people or reasons for WHY they do actions.

Let me guess you are against the death penalty? Do you ever think that sometimes people do things for reasons. And it is best to understand what their reasoning is to better prevent future actions or people from feeling conflicted with the reason to want to attack you. If you address the real issues you can prevent the many times justified anger towards the American government.

1) Investigating what happened doesn't mean we start WW3.

2) Doesn't matter at all. We're the hegemon, not Russia. Our crimes don't excuse their crimes, especially when they're targeted at us and our most sacred institutions. Basically, go fuck yourself. This is classic Russian whataboutism.

3) Russia has their interests, that's fine. But we're not going to let them piss on our feet and tell us it's raining.

4) It doesn't matter why they're doing it. If you take hostile actions against the US we'll defend ourselves.

 

[Seaside]

You are such the hypocrite. 200 Israelis were rounded up in relation to 9/11, they failed multiple lie detector tests, they were held for a couple months or more and then released back to Israel and the entire media pretended as this never happened. They were listening in to all the cops and government cell phones. They knew where they would be and when. Some were caught celebrating, videoing and photographing the event, in a van with explosive residue. They also had 1000s of dollars in a sock and all had plane tickets that very day to different countries. Others were found in a truck loaded with explosives. Others were pretending to be art students and were trying to sell their crap art to some of the highest ranking men in this nation.

The bottom line?

This was the largest spy ring ever uncovered in American soil. They were powerful enough to have their spies shipped home on visa violations and the whole thing classified by our government.

Think of the power that must take and think how that might bode for Americans.

Dude you are making this stuff up. I googled it and ZERO of what you said is true.

Oh some Israelis spies existed in America. WOW... American spies exist in Israel to. You guys have a radar spy station in Israel. It spies on iran yes and other countries but also on Israel i am sure. You guys also basically have a base in Israel.

The fact they were released and nothing points to them and none of your allies think they did it (including china or russia) says a lot.


Or are you now going to claim that the ´zionist jews´´ run china and russia now.

 

[Rational Poster]

You are such the hypocrite. 200 Israelis were rounded up in relation to 9/11, they failed multiple lie detector tests, they were held for a couple months or more and then released back to Israel and the entire media pretended as this never happened. They were listening in to all the cops and government cell phones. They knew where they would be and when. Some were caught celebrating, videoing and photographing the event, in a van with explosive residue. They also had 1000s of dollars in a sock and all had plane tickets that very day to different countries. Others were found in a truck loaded with explosives. Others were pretending to be art students and were trying to sell their crap art to some of the highest ranking men in this nation.

The bottom line?

This was the largest spy ring ever uncovered in American soil. They were powerful enough to have their spies shipped home on visa violations and the whole thing classified by our government.

Think of the power that must take and think how that might bode for Americans.

 

[Seaside]

1) Investigating what happened doesn't mean we start WW3.

2) Doesn't matter at all. We're the hegemon, not Russia. Our crimes don't excuse their crimes, especially when they're targeted at us and our most sacred institutions. Basically, go fuck yourself. This is classic Russian whataboutism.

3) Russia has their interests, that's fine. But we're not going to let them piss on our feet and tell us it's raining.

4) It doesn't matter why they're doing it. If you take hostile actions against the US we'll defend ourselves.

Your like this weird version of a cultural marxist but one who likes the suprmecy of the military and your foreign policy. I bet you supported Iraq war and libya and syria and support the coup in Ukraine. Do you support the coup in Ukraine? Do you support heavy weapons to ukrainians and to syrian ´rebels?

Typically the left is AGAINST this military crap. But you are certainly special. You told me to go fuck myself instead of EVER try to understand the pain of the other side or understand why people attack your country.

 

[Seaside]

One could also make the point to him. How come countries which are NOT friends of USA but are not islamists didnt blame Israel? Instead globally the intelligence of non islamic shTtholes correctly attributed the attacks Islamists. And the War on Terror had wide support.

What was not supported globally was your incursion into iraq or libya. etc

 

[Rational Poster]

Your like this weird version of a cultural marxist but one who likes the suprmecy of the military and your foreign policy. I bet you supported Iraq war and libya and syria and support the coup in Ukraine. Do you support the coup in Ukraine? Do you support heavy weapons to ukrainians and to syrian ´rebels?

Typically the left is AGAINST this military crap. But you are certainly special. You told me to go fuck myself instead of EVER try to understand the pain of the other side or understand why people attack your country.

The majority of our allies did support the Iraq war.. I mean we had a coalition and everything. British, Australians, Germans, Scandinavians, etc all died for our interests and continue to do so. I didn't support the Iraq war and it was obviously a mistake. But we broke it and as the only grown ups left on Earth it's our job to contain the situation and restore stability to the region. Syria and Libya are both aftershocks of that mistake and it is likewise our responsibility to contain those situations as well.

I know why Russia is poking at us. They want their empire back and we simply will not allow it. The majority of Ukraine did not want to be ruled by Putin's puppet. America supports democracy and the Ukrainians democratically removed Putin's puppet. If Ukraine wants to buy our arms at market price, have at it. We like making money, especially off war materials. It's our specialty. Not to mention the Russians have been supplying arms to literally every single hostile actor on the planet that opposed American interests for nearly 100 years now. Cry me a river Putin. I literally don't care.

I believe in American cultural supremacy and the liberal values at the core of it. The entire world would be a better place if they bent the knee. All men are created equally the only problem is they're not raised properly, the American way.

 

[Seaside]

The majority of our allies did support the Iraq war.. I mean we had a coalition and everything. British, Australians, Germans, Scandinavians, etc all died for our interests and continue to do so. I didn't support the Iraq war and it was obviously a mistake. But we broke it and as the only grown ups left on Earth it's our job to contain the situation and restore stability to the region. Syria and Libya are both aftershocks of that mistake and it is likewise our responsibility to contain those situations as well.

I know why Russia is poking at us. They want their empire back and we simply will not allow it. The majority of Ukraine did not want to be ruled by Putin's puppet. America supports democracy and the Ukrainians democratically removed Putin's puppet. If Ukraine wants to buy our arms at market price, have at it. We like making money, especially off war materials. It's our specialty. Not to mention the Russians have been supplying arms to literally every single hostile actor on the planet that opposed American interests for nearly 100 years now. Cry me a river Putin. I literally don't care.

I believe in American cultural supremacy and the liberal values at the core of it. The entire world would be a better place if they bent the knee. All men are created equally the only problem is they're not raised properly, the American way.

Okay

1) The part about the Majority of Ukraine not wanting to be ruled by ´putin´puppet is just not true. And if you really think that then you have not seen or read any of the counter opinions or the positions of any source that is not anti Russian and pro western bias. Because i literally do not see how anyone can say ´´the majority did not want to be ruled by xyz´´´when that is just not true and the country literally fractured as a result of the actions of the coup. It was not a ´´minority´and the % of population speaking russian and allying to the Eurasian economic sphere in eastern ukraine also proves that point along with the vote in Crimea and votes in Luhansk, dontesk and the entire donbass region.

The very fact that the Ukrainian newly installed government enacted anti Russian legislation and started supporting a bullying campaign of people speaking Russian in high schools and then committed human rights abuses just to assert their power proves they were not so supported by the ´majority´´ but that in reality their ´´majority´´ was really only in parts of Kiev and the western half of the country particularly the majority ukrainian speaking parts of Ukraine.

I would encourage you to honestly try and understand an opposing view but given how you finished off your paragraph with the whole ´´´bend the knee to america and submit to our western ways´´´´ just got me thinking that you wont change.


2) Your side will lose and is losing. God bless Trump being president and the Republicans taking back your country and ruining your demented sick soulless ideology. My God you really are a weird one. A far left culture marxist liberal who actually likes neocon foreign policy.

 

[Rational Poster]

Okay

1) The part about the Majority of Ukraine not wanting to be ruled by ´putin´puppet is just not true. And if you really think that then you have not seen or read any of the counter opinions or the positions of any source that is not anti Russian and pro western bias. Because i literally do not see how anyone can say ´´the majority did not want to be ruled by xyz´´´when that is just not true and the country literally fractured as a result of the actions of the coup. It was not a ´´minority´and the % of population speaking russian and allying to the Eurasian economic sphere in eastern ukraine also proves that point along with the vote in Crimea and votes in Luhansk, dontesk and the entire donbass region.

The very fact that the Ukrainian newly installed government enacted anti Russian legislation and started supporting a bullying campaign of people speaking Russian in high schools and then committed human rights abuses just to assert their power proves they were not so supported by the ´majority´´ but that in reality their ´´majority´´ was really only in parts of Kiev and the western half of the country particularly the majority ukrainian speaking parts of Ukraine.

I would encourage you to honestly try and understand an opposing view but given how you finished off your paragraph with the whole ´´´bend the knee to america and submit to our western ways´´´´ just got me thinking that you wont change.


2) Your side will lose and is losing. God bless Trump being president and the Republicans taking back your country and ruining your demented sick soulless ideology. My God you really are a weird one. A far left culture marxist liberal who actually likes neocon foreign policy.

On 22 February 2014, 328 of 447 members of the Ukrainian parliament (MPs)—or about 73% of the MPs—voted to "remove Viktor Yanukovych from the post of president of Ukraine" on the grounds that he was unable to fulfill his duties and to hold early presidential elections on 25 May.

"Given that Ukrainian President Viktor Yanukovych has restrained himself from performing his constitutional duties, which threatens the governance of the state, the territorial integrity and sovereignty of Ukraine, large-scale violation of human rights and freedoms of citizens, and based on the circumstances of extreme urgency, the Verkhovna Rada of Ukraine, by way of expressing the sovereign will of the Ukrainian people, has decided to remove Ukrainian President Viktor Yanukovych from office for neglecting his constitutional duties and scheduled an early presidential election in Ukraine for May 25, 2014,"

 

[Happy Man]

Remember when libs like Rob Reiner starred in movies like "The Russians Are Coming!" to make fun of Anti-Russia hysteria? Now they are the ones engaging in McCarthyism. Dangerous and sad

This is so damn true and so damn sad

 

[abiG]

You are so focused on the wrong part of the story.

Start here:
https://archive.org/details/DancingIsraelisFBIReport

https://archive.org/stream/DancingIsraelisFBIReport/fbi report section 6_djvu.txt

And watch the one and only interview the cop who arrested them decided to give. Note the youtube warning for offensive content. Just ridiculous!



This is way beyond anything Russia has ever even considered. Chomsky was correct on this one 100%

 

[JonnyRingo84]

I would like to maybe not have world war 3 because of stupid propaganda, but by all means, engage in it.

lol calm down man. who has suggested that we fight russia over this? our options are ignore or ww3? gtfo.

I laugh as America crumbles; the ignorant, arrogant fucks that they are. And if me and TS agree, that means you should leave, dipshit

what does this have to do with the OP and russia? gtfo

are you a paid russian troll?