Social MGM sues Vegas shooting victims

[Gregolian]

I know there is a Vegas shooting thread but figured this would get buried in that thread with the conspiracies...

WTF MGM:
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-44859238

The owner of the Mandalay Bay hotel in Las Vegas has filed a lawsuit against more than 1,000 victims of a mass shooting that killed 58 people in 2017.

The MGM Resorts International's lawsuit does not seek money and appears to be a judicial bid to avoid liability and dismiss claims against it.

I KINDA get the "why" but... Jeez.

 

[bobgeese]

That’s a bad look.

 

[curryjunkie]

How long was he shooting from that room?

 

[HomerThompson]

I hope MGM goes bankrupt and the board of directors get the flu this season.

 

[JosephDredd]

Is this like when Chevron sued the other oil companies for climate change?

 

[Gregolian]

Don't get me wrong, I don't think MGM/Mandalay Bay should be on the receiving end of the suit because it might of been their hotel but they weren't up their pulling the trigger.

THAT SAID, suing the victims of a crime to prevent them from pursuing what might be the only route they have for compensation for hospital stays and shit? Not a good look.

I hope MGM goes bankrupt and the board of directors get the flu this season.

Ebola

Is this like when Chevron sued the other oil companies for climate change?

Possibly.

Fucking Exxon and BP commercials for natural gas on Hulu always get me laughing.

 

[snakedafunky]

I am no lawyer but if some dude is able to carry up 25 AK47s and 10,000 rounds into his hotel room.
It might be a tiny bit the fault of the hotel.

 

[Gregolian]

I am no lawyer but if some dude is able to carry up 25 AK47 and 10,000 rounds into his hotel room.
It might be a tiny bit the fault of the hotel.

We going to have TSA checkpoints at hotels now?

I've traveled with a rifle on hunting trips before so seeing those big ass long cases especially in Vegas where they have things like Shot Show and other firearms conventions the employees are probably so used to those they don't notice them. Or the golf bags which you can also use to transport guns.

 

[MicroBrew]

Just disgusting. And this is why people hate lawyers. I mean the lawyers could always refuse to take such a case, but in this case bet the scummy lawyers suggested this course of action.

I hope there is a massive boycott of the Mandalay Bay and MGM, and this hurts them very badly.

 

[JosephDredd]

I am no lawyer but if some dude is able to carry up 25 AK47s and 10,000 rounds into his hotel room.
It might be a tiny bit the fault of the hotel.

They're too damn patriotic, imo. Can't fault them for that.

 

[Anung Un Rama]

I am no lawyer but if some dude is able to carry up 25 AK47s and 10,000 rounds into his hotel room.
It might be a tiny bit the fault of the hotel.

They should have TSA in their lobby.

 

[SaiWa]

I am no lawyer but if some dude is able to carry up 25 AK47s and 10,000 rounds into his hotel room.
It might be a tiny bit the fault of the hotel.

meh. It's not as if they were exposed. That shit was bagged and in suitcases. No one can see what he carried. Unless you believe every hotel should be inspecting all incoming bags there is no way any hotel will know if someone is bringing in a gun or a suitcase full of guns...

 

[Gregolian]

Just disgusting. And this is why people hate lawyers. I mean the lawyers could always refuse to take such a case, but in this case bet the scummy lawyers suggested this course of action.

I hope there is a massive boycott of the Mandalay Bay and MGM, and this hurts them very badly.

Sad fact is I think the company that owns those two hotels own like 70% of the Vegas strip. The strip is owned by like.. 2 companies I think.

Yeah, for Vegas:
Bellagio
Circus Circus
City Center (50% with Dubai World which includs the Aria, Mandarin, and Vdara)
Excalibur
Luxor
Mandalay Bay
MGM Grand
The Mirage
New York New York
Park MGM
T-Mobile Arena (50% of it at least)
The Festival Grounds where the Harvest Festival took place

The Festival Grounds is the biggest reason they're scared probably.


EDIT:
Here it's broken down in simpler lists:

https://vegasclick.com/casinos/ownership

 

[snakedafunky]

We going to have TSA checkpoints at hotels now?

I've traveled with a rifle on hunting trips before so seeing those big ass long cases especially in Vegas where they have things like Shot Show and other firearms conventions the employees are probably so used to those they don't notice them. Or the golf bags which you can also use to transport guns.

I don't know how they can figure it out. But I would assume those people in the festival had a reasonable expectation that the MGM prevents a guy from being armed like that in his room?
If those kinds of rifles are available the only safe way to prevent someone from doing this would be to check for weapons.
It's just a matter of time until someone does it again. Now that somehow showed its possible with a high kill count.

 

[HereticBD]

Straight up ruthless.

 

[Not A Theist]

I am no lawyer but if some dude is able to carry up 25 AK47s and 10,000 rounds into his hotel room.
It might be a tiny bit the fault of the hotel.

I don't know. You want hotels to start searching peoples' bags - in Vegas, of all places? Seems like a step down an unfortunate trail.

Now, if you say "I don't think there should be anything like bag searching going on, but the hotel is still responsible" you have some explaining to do, on your position.

 

[Gregolian]

I don't know. You want hotels to start searching peoples' bags - in Vegas, of all places? Seems like a step down an unfortunate trail.

Now, if you say "I don't think there should be anything like bag searching going on, but the hotel is still responsible" you have some explaining to do, on your position.

Maybe not the Mandalay Bay hotel but MGM as a company yes because of lack of some security around the festival grounds? I could MAYBE see an argument for that.

 

[Not A Theist]

Maybe not the Mandalay Bay hotel but MGM as a company yes because of lack of some security around the festival grounds? I could MAYBE see an argument for that.

That's a tricky one in itself. I may have details wrong, but "security around the festival grounds" - to have done that in a manner that would have prevented this whole thing from happening, wouldn't that entail quite invasive searching of every high rise building in the area? Since - again, correct me if I'm wrong - the shooter was literally shooting out of a window in a nearby hotel?

I get what you're saying in principle. In practice, I don't see how to add "security around the festival grounds" in a meaningful way, in this case, short of basically at-will searches of rooms and bags by the hotels.

 

[Gregolian]

That's a tricky one in itself. I may have details wrong, but "security around the festival grounds" - to have done that in a manner that would have prevented this whole thing from happening, wouldn't that entail quite invasive searching of every high rise building in the area? Since - again, correct me if I'm wrong - the shooter was literally shooting out of a window in a nearby hotel?

I get what you're saying in principle. In practice, I don't see how to add "security around the festival grounds" in a meaningful way, in this case, short of basically at-will searches of rooms and bags by the hotels.

Yeah in practice I think it'd be a hard sell from the side of the people that were victims but for the company to sue them in advance of that is a super fucked up look.

 

[flashNsmash]

I get what you're saying in principle. In practice, I don't see how to add "security around the festival grounds" in a meaningful way, in this case, short of basically at-will searches of rooms and bags by the hotels.