MSNBC and others blacklisted Bernie Sanders in election

[VivaRevolution]

Point taken.

On the other hand we all ought to be very worried when the wealthy and wealthy corporations and news outlets have more influence in deciding our national politics than we do.

Also it seems dems and rep alike could and should unite in demanding free and fair elections.

Any politician who does not take this problem seriously and address it as a core position for their campaign is totally full of shit in my opinion.

There is no problem more serious than this in the United States. None. And fucking no one seem to really give a shit.

Well I could argue foreign influence, but that is really the same problem.

 

[VivaRevolution]

I really liked Ron Paul when I first heard him speak because I could tell that he really believed what he was saying. Then I looked up his policies and it made me very afraid of him any anyone that would vote for him. He wants the wild wild west days back.

He does, and he doesn't apologize for it. He fully admits it will cause problems. You have to debate the premise of unintended consequences to call Paul crazy.

 

[VivaRevolution]

Sadly, he more or less is a beacon of Republican economy. Nothing for the poor, everything for the rich, and a nice big cut for their representatives.

I don't think that is accurate. What would have been dangerous in a Paul presidency is if the establishment could have used him for controlled liberalization.

Paul wanted regulation gone. It would have caused havoc in the world economy if he actually achieved this, because he didn't just want the regulations gone that protect people, he also wanted to remove the regulation that protected the institutions. He wanted free trade, but he wanted that trade agreement written on 1 piece of paper. A paper that said trade is now free.

It wouldn't work, the cost of engaging in actual capitalism is instability. That instability would have generated political opposition.

 

[franklinstower]

He does, and he doesn't apologize for it. He fully admits it will cause problems. You have to debate the premise of unintended consequences to call Paul crazy.

Ron Paul supporters would instantly GANG up and start enforcing their own brand of justice anyway. WTF? It would be a massive step backwards in every fucking way.

 

[ineverpost]

Bernie wants to give people actual things of value, while hillary wants to give them social justice (a pile of bullshit). Trump may be full of shit but he appealed to poor people that he could potentially improve their lives economically. The Hillary Clintons and Elizabeth Warrens like the social issues because they don't cost the aristocrats shit

 

[12ga.]

Corporate media blackballs way more than that.
https://www.truthdig.com/articles/empty-piety-american-press/

"Where is the flood of stories about families being evicted or losing their homes because of foreclosures and bank repossessions? Where are the stories about the banks and lending agencies that prey on recent college graduates burdened with crippling loans and unable to find work? Where are the stories about families going into bankruptcy because they cannot pay medical bills and the soaring premiums of for-profit health care? Where are the stories about the despair that drives middle-aged white men to suicide and millions of Americans into the deadly embrace of opioid addiction? Where are the stories on the cruelty of mass incarceration, the collapse of our court system and the reign of terror by police in marginal communities? Where are the investigative pieces on the fraud and the tax boycott that have been legalized for Wall Street, the poisoning of the ecosystem by the fossil fuel and animal agriculture industries? Why is climate change a forbidden subject, even as extreme weather devastates the nation and much of the rest of the planet? Why are the atrocities we commit or abet in Iraq, Afghanistan and Yemen ignored? Why are the war crimes carried out by Israel against the Palestinians erased from news coverage?"

 

[kazam]

gotta get on tha globalist agenda if you wanna keep your funding

 

[VivaRevolution]

Corporate media blackballs way more than that.
https://www.truthdig.com/articles/empty-piety-american-press/

"Where is the flood of stories about families being evicted or losing their homes because of foreclosures and bank repossessions? Where are the stories about the banks and lending agencies that prey on recent college graduates burdened with crippling loans and unable to find work? Where are the stories about families going into bankruptcy because they cannot pay medical bills and the soaring premiums of for-profit health care? Where are the stories about the despair that drives middle-aged white men to suicide and millions of Americans into the deadly embrace of opioid addiction? Where are the stories on the cruelty of mass incarceration, the collapse of our court system and the reign of terror by police in marginal communities? Where are the investigative pieces on the fraud and the tax boycott that have been legalized for Wall Street, the poisoning of the ecosystem by the fossil fuel and animal agriculture industries? Why is climate change a forbidden subject, even as extreme weather devastates the nation and much of the rest of the planet? Why are the atrocities we commit or abet in Iraq, Afghanistan and Yemen ignored? Why are the war crimes carried out by Israel against the Palestinians erased from news coverage?"

Yep, but when you tell people fake news is the MSM, they get butt hurt about it.

 

[RockstarChris]

For those of us who really followed Bernie and his campaign we could see there was a very real bias against Bernie that just did not add up. Here is some pretty stark evidence MSNBC had it as policy against Bernie. Corporate medial makes a bigger negative effect on our elections than the Russians do.

Well he is a socialist.

 

[franklinstower]

Well he is a socialist.

Democratic socialist actually.

 

[Durr T Sanchez]

I mean, yeah, it was kind of obvious.

However, that anecdote isn't much of stark evidence, since at that time Sanders was not considered to be even a remotely legitimate challenger, and it could well be that the other stories in Texas, Baltimore, etc. that he was downplaying did have real significance to the outlet's interests. It's not like people, even on the far left who had at that time sort of written Sanders off as a flaky social democrat as we tend to do, was waiting on pins and needles for his campaign announcement.

And right wingers (not you, OP) ignorantly and recklessly appropriating the "Bernie got screwed" narrative to justify their shit candidate and their shit choice in voting for him are kind of sad.

 

[Durr T Sanchez]

I mean, yeah, it was kind of obvious.

However, that anecdote isn't much of stark evidence, since at that time Sanders was not considered to be even a remotely legitimate challenger, and it could well be that the other stories in Texas, Baltimore, etc. that he was downplaying did have real significance to the outlet's interests. It's not like people, even on the far left who had at that time sort of written Sanders off as a flaky social democrat as we tend to do, was waiting on pins and needles for his campaign announcement.

And right wingers (not you, OP) ignorantly and recklessly appropriating the "Bernie got screwed" narrative to justify their shit candidate and their shit choice in voting for him are kind of sad.

Debbie Wasserman Shultz. There were moderate Liberals that have been wanting Bernie to run for years. As a Senator from Vermont he was a champion for the middle class, wage gap, and bringing jobs back to America. He lost a small part of his following when BLM got behind him.