Elections "Progressive" Democrats ramp up efforts to sideline Nancy Pelosi

[Jack V Savage]

While I agree that Pelosi is a very effective vote counter, she was also in charge at a time when the party got decimated at the national level, losing something like 1,000 seats.

The energy of the party is in the progressive policy end. If Pelosi isn’t ready to push real statement votes on issues like Medicare for all, she needs to get out of the way, imo.

I think the job of a politician is to pass good policy, and losses down ballot when a party has the WH are inevitable. You could argue that healthcare reform hurt the party in 2010-2014, for example, but it appears to have helped in 2018. The political aspect is unsettled, but we know that the reforms did a tremendous amount of good for the nation.

I also disagree about where the energy of the party is. There is excitement all over the ideological spectrum, and the suburbs and thriving cities are geographically where the energy is. A recession could shift that (bringing struggling areas, which overwhelmingly go red, in line with other places). Anyway, I think that Medicare for all (at least the opportunity for anyone to buy into it) is a good idea, and I'd expect her to make it happen if she gets the chance and it's at all possible.

 

[luckyshot]

Kids liked Ross Perot when I was in high school. *shrug*

Then you went to a weird high school.

“Kids,” as a general group, never “liked” Ross Perot, and Ross Perot certainly never raised $45 million dollars per month in small donations from an army of rabid—and mostly young— followers.

 

[NoDak]

 

[skold]

Plenty of Justice Democrats ready to take the lead, and would certainly be magnitudes better than the orange embarrassment currently in office.

 

[VivaRevolution]

Tulsi Gabbard for speaker!!!!!

 

[Arkain2K]

Plenty of Justice Democrats ready to take the lead, and would certainly be magnitudes better than the orange embarrassment currently in office.

House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi doesn't look THAT orange.

Who are these "Justice Democrats" who could challenge her?

 

[xcvbn]

Trump endorsed Pelosi and even suggested Republicans support her too if Democrats dissent to her appointment. Aside from Pelosi's corporatist and war mongering track record going back decades, this is more than enough reason to NOT support that wretched cunt.

Let that decrepit dinosaur die off and pick Khanna or Lee.

 

[cottagecheesefan]

Trump endorsed Pelosi and even suggested Republicans support her too if Democrats dissent to her appointment. Aside from Pelosi's corporatist and war mongering track record going back decades, this is more than enough reason to NOT support that wretched cunt.

Let that decrepit dinosaur die off and pick Khanna or Lee.

Corporatist and war mongering? Oh wait, another Republican scared if a strong woman, with a pure heart.

 

[Arkain2K]

Trump endorsed Pelosi and even suggested Republicans support her too if Democrats dissent to her appointment. Aside from Pelosi's corporatist and war mongering track record going back decades, this is more than enough reason to NOT support that wretched cunt.

Let that decrepit dinosaur die off and pick Khanna or Lee.

LOL, we all know he's exploiting and fanning the divisions in their rank by throwing his nme in the mix

 

[Gunny]

Well one of Pelosi’s chief rivals just bowed out and endorsed Nancy - after accusing her of being an elitist and soft on race issues just a few weeks ago.

https://thehill.com/homenews/house/417744-fudge-endorses-nancy-pelosi-in-surprise-move

Story is, Rep Marcia Fudge had previously written a letter of support for Cleveland Judge Lance Mason who had been convicted or beating his wife - insisting that it was not the action of the man she knew and had to be a one-time mistake. Well, that dude just murdered his wife and Fudge’s judgement has eliminated her prospects. So go Nancy...

 

[uppercutbus]

LOL, we all know he's exploiting and fanning the divisions in their rank by throwing his nme in the mix

4d chess.

not /s

 

[Seano]

Then you went to a weird high school.

“Kids,” as a general group, never “liked” Ross Perot, and Ross Perot certainly never raised $45 million dollars per month in small donations from an army of rabid—and mostly young— followers.

https://archive.bangordailynews.com/1992/11/02/perot-gets-student-vote-in-mock-elections/

https://www.theridgefieldpress.com/96426-looking-back-ross-perot-petitions/

Lost to Bush here, but beat Clinton. https://newsok.com/article/2410858/oklahomas-schoolchildren-back-bush-in-mock-vote

 

[HereticBD]

Story is, Rep Marcia Fudge had previously written a letter of support for Cleveland Judge Lance Mason who had been convicted or beating his wife - insisting that it was not the action of the man she knew and had to be a one-time mistake. Well, that dude just murdered his wife and Fudge’s judgement has eliminated her prospects. So go Nancy...

 

[Fawlty]

Pelosi is probably the second most unfairly demonized politician in America after Hillary. Still, this is a confidence problem and she should step aside, at least for now.

 

[Fawlty]

Then you went to a weird high school.

“Kids,” as a general group, never “liked” Ross Perot, and Ross Perot certainly never raised $45 million dollars per month in small donations from an army of rabid—and mostly young— followers.

Kids liked Dana Carvey making fun of Ross Perot, and that's as far as it went.

 

[The ScorpioN]

Story is, Rep Marcia Fudge had previously written a letter of support for Cleveland Judge Lance Mason who had been convicted or beating his wife - insisting that it was not the action of the man she knew and had to be a one-time mistake. Well, that dude just murdered his wife and Fudge’s judgement has eliminated her prospects. So go Nancy...

Extreme tribalism rears its ugly head again.

 

[Jack V Savage]

Pelosi is probably the second most unfairly demonized politician in America after Hillary. Still, this is a confidence problem and she should step aside, at least for now.

Warren is up there, too. But no way in fuck should she step aside.

 

[Fluffernutter]

The young Democrats within the House don't want Pelosi to be the Speaker....but, no one is running against her. If you disagree with her so much, challenge her to a vote amungst your colleagues.

With that said, there was a piece on NPR yesterday that discussed many Democrats left the House of Reps this year to either run for the Senate or to go back to their home districts to run for state offices. They complained that they could not "work up the ladder" within the party in Congress because the old stalwarts wouldn't step aside.

 

[Arkain2K]

Well one of Pelosi’s chief rivals just bowed out and endorsed Nancy - after accusing her of being an elitist and soft on race issues just a few weeks ago.

https://thehill.com/homenews/house/417744-fudge-endorses-nancy-pelosi-in-surprise-move

Story is, Rep Marcia Fudge had previously written a letter of support for Cleveland Judge Lance Mason who had been convicted or beating his wife - insisting that it was not the action of the man she knew and had to be a one-time mistake. Well, that dude just murdered his wife and Fudge’s judgement has eliminated her prospects. So go Nancy...

I don't know why some people would waste their time watching the fake and unfunny "politicians" on SNL, when real life politics is vastly more entetaining than any script Hollywood could come up with.

 

[Arkain2K]