New Original Unique Awesome Weight Class Idea

BW - 130
FW - 140
LW - 150
WW - 165
MW - 180
LHW - 200
CW - 220
HW - 245

No more Hodors
No more Gremlins

For reference I just went up by 10 twice, then 15, then 20 and last one up by 25. Easy peezy.
 
mma_genius said:
Actually you're wrong. 10 percent is 10 percent.
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actually he's right

10% of 145 is not the same as 10% of 205

And for instance, for a 180lb man to put on 10% of his bodyweight, is a totally different prospect to a 115lb female putting on 10%, different bodies, different metabolisms etc.
 
mma_genius said:
I'm tired of all the arbitrary numbers being thrown around. "The jump from 155 to 170 is too big" blah, blah.

The only absolute fair way is to pick a starting point and go up a standard percentage from there. Lets say we want the smallest division to be 120. My standard increase will be 10 percent. (rounded up or down to nearest whole number).

New divisions could be:
120
132
145
160
176
193
212
234
257

Yes, that is 9 divisions, up from 8 now, but I think they're spread out more evenly and fairly. 10% is a good number to spread out the divisions. Sorry, but I don't feel the need to have 4 divisions 155 and under. As you go up, the spread should get wider - a 200 pound guy can cut more water than a 150 pound guy.

For those of you who want superheavyweight freakshows, good luck. There just aren't enough talented big guys to make that division. I'm fine with bumping 234 to 235 and 257 to 265 and other such MINOR adjustments.

Range on smallest 3 divisions: 25 pounds
Range on middle 3 divisions: 33 pounds
Range on top 3 divisions: 45 pounds

Sounds fair to me. flame away.
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Those look like Walmart weight divisions...
 
If they go by ten after 170 (180-190-200-210-220 and heavy weights) or just go by ten after LW (165-175-185-195-205-215-225 and heavy weights)

It'll make it more interesting for small MW and LHW and a 220 division would be nice for smaller HW not having to fight freaks like Lesnar.

We have gone small enough with 125 LBS, if you want more champs go in the upper classes.
 
mma_genius said:
Gap needs to get bigger as you go up. Every 10 pounds from 130 to 170 isn't enough range.
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That's how it already is (10 lbs)... I literally raised the bar by 5 lbs for everything LW and under.

FLW 125 --> 130
LW 155 --> 160
 
I think the problem at the moment is there's too far of a gap between weight classes. Making bigger gaps just makes that worse. Also, I think the talent pool is too shallow to add divisions for bigger guys.
 
Instead of 145lb-185lb covering the 4 most subscribed divisions, you want 145lb-193lb to cover those 4 divisions. If people were saying the gaps were too big before how is making them bigger going to help.
 
Dunno why you went for those specific classes, why not go a slightly more obvious way?
120
130
140
150
160
170
185
200
220
220+ with no upper limit
Sure, it'd mean two more divisions total, but it still makes the most sense imho.
 
Oh, fwiw, average weight in the UFC (assuming that every single fighter came in at exactly on point for weight class)

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169.73lbs

(this is only active fighters)




So arguably, the divisions should be focussed around 170lb's.

each side of 170 should be a small gap as thats where the bulk of fighters are in weight, then as it gets to the extremes bigger gaps..

so something like

Strawweight 115
Flyweight 130
Bantamweight 145
Featherweight 160
Lightweight 170
Welterweight 180
Middleweight 195
Light Heavyweight 210
Heavyweight 265


so only a 10lb gap between feather > Lightweight > Welter as thats where the bulk of the athletes

then 15lb gaps elsewhere


that would keep the number of divisions the same, but would balance them in favor of number of athletes
 
dimspace said:
actually he's right

10% of 145 is not the same as 10% of 205

And for instance, for a 180lb man to put on 10% of his bodyweight, is a totally different prospect to a 115lb female putting on 10%, different bodies, different metabolisms etc.
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Exactly. A 200 pound man can cut a lot more water than a 120 pound man.
 
Oh my god TS. Did you even think this through? All the problems it would create?

C'mon man...
 
mma_genius said:
Exactly. A 200 pound man can cut a lot more water than a 120 pound man.
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and a 115lb girl v a 130lb girl, is not the same as a 145lb man fighting a 160lb man

both are 15lb apart, but the difference in actual physical strength is totally different..
 
Your assumption that fighters come in on weight makes sense for all weight classes other than heavy. Assuming that HWs are 265 will drastically distort the average weight of UFC Fighters. Just by eye-balling the number of fighters in each weight class it looks like the weight classes should be based around 163 pounds or so (roughly in the middle of 170/155, but slightly closer to welterweight).

dimspace said:
Oh, fwiw, average weight in the UFC (assuming that every single fighter came in at exactly on point for weight class)

Fox6BH.png


169.73lbs

(this is only active fighters)




So arguably, the divisions should be focussed around 170lb's.

each side of 170 should be a small gap as thats where the bulk of fighters are in weight, then as it gets to the extremes bigger gaps..

so something like

Strawweight 115
Flyweight 130
Bantamweight 145
Featherweight 160
Lightweight 170
Welterweight 180
Middleweight 195
Light Heavyweight 210
Heavyweight 265


so only a 10lb gap between feather > Lightweight > Welter as thats where the bulk of the athletes

then 15lb gaps elsewhere


that would keep the number of divisions the same, but would balance them in favor of number of athletes
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dimspace said:
and a 115lb girl v a 130lb girl, is not the same as a 145lb man fighting a 160lb man

both are 15lb apart, but the difference in actual physical strength is totally different..
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And? Point? Are you saying that bigger people are stronger?
 
Moopy Mac said:
Your assumption that fighters come in on weight makes sense for all weight classes other than heavy. Assuming that HWs are 265 will drastically distort the average weight of UFC Fighters. Just by eye-balling the number of fighters in each weight class it looks like the weight classes should be based around 163 pounds or so (roughly in the middle of 170/155, but slightly closer to welterweight).
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yeh, its not a very scientific method.

weve also dont know what percentage of fighters could make less.

for example, can all 100+ 170lb fighters only make 170, or are there some who could make 165 (equally there are some that cant even make 170)


but certainly bearing in mind that both lightweight and welterweight have 100+ fighters on the roster from each division, and the other divisions 40-50 its pretty clear the mean weight is somewhere in the 155-175 region

which co-incidentally is the two divisions with the biggest gap between them
 
mma_genius said:
And? Point? Are you saying that bigger people are stronger?
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im agreeing that 10% isnt the same in all circumstances.

a 115lb girl fighting someone 10% bigger than her has a much harder opponent that a 220lb man taking on someone 10% bigger
 
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