Social New York Times Stands by Editorial Board Hire Who Sent Tweets Disparaging ‘White People’

[ImNotSurpisedDonks!]

I'm Not Surprised, Dorks!

 

[Leagon]

The West did not patten energy, frequency and tone, they always existed and were likely found out thousands of years before they became known to the West (i.e. Walls of Jericho).

Then you don't mean that Western tradition has any value, you mean that energy, frequency, and tone have value. If this value was discovered thousands of years ago all around the world, then the fact that modern classical music is dominated by non-Americans is irrelevant. There are plenty of music forms that have proper energy, frequency, and tone that Americans can partake in.

All I can offer you is viewable evidence via Dr Emoto's Water Experiment, where you can personally witness the effects Beethoven has upon Water vs modern pop music. You can personally conduct viewable experiments in your house as to the difference between 440 and 444 tuning systems and view the effects vibration, frequency and energy have upon water (humans are 70% water).

I'm familiar with the experiment. I don't know enough about tuning systems to disagree with you.

This is not some racial argument, but rather an argument from a scientific standpoint of truth and racially blind - 'think 3,6 9' as Tesla said. The truth is the truth whether we wish to acknowledge it or not. Why did Hutchison cure oil polluted water with 528 Hz and not 64.74647 Hz? Why does the sun vibrate at 528 Hz (1+0+5=6 via the pythagorean theorem) and not 527 Hz? These truths are made to be self evident & viewable by all, they are nature's rules, not the 'white man's or Westerns' creation'.

And music is not frequency alone, it is also energy and vibration, like all things in this universe. One can create a spectacular rhythm but lack harmony and melody too.....hence the African drummers you noted, who have the most divine rhythms on the planet. There are many elements to music, and each serves it's purpose, hence why they went over to 440 as it made people more fear ridden, confused, anxious and altruistic.

Traditional African music definitely involves harmony and melody too. And as far as I know, traditional classical music rarely involves drumming (or complex wordplay and narrative, which modern music almost always involves).

But I would never argue that an African culture adopting Western values is devolving because they are moving to a musical system with poor percussion and narrativity. See what I'm saying? You're generalizing the importance of a cultural shift and using music as an example to support your point. Even if you're correct, I think music is a poor example because classical music has never been popular and is likely no more (or is even less) sophisticated than music that has existed all over the world for thousands of years.

 

[ImNotSurpisedDonks!]

Then you don't mean that Western tradition has any value, you mean that energy, frequency, and tone have value. If this value was discovered thousands of years ago all around the world, then the fact that modern classical music is dominated by non-Americans is irrelevant. There are plenty of music forms that have proper energy, frequency, and tone that Americans can partake in.



I'm familiar with the experiment. I don't know enough about tuning systems to disagree with you.

Western tradition has no value to me.

The truths of science and viewable evidence have value to me.

I am Buddhist and my only child is half Chinese.

I think we're on the same page?

 

[NoDak]

I'm as big of a mid-90s hip-hop head as they come for a white motherfucker and only a casual on the classical stuff but this sort of material is tear jerking and induces chills up my spine to a degree pretty much no other genre of music is able to match sans DSOTM. It overloads my striatum with dopamine and makes me feel so human.

 

[ImNotSurpisedDonks!]

Then you don't mean that Western tradition has any value, you mean that energy, frequency, and tone have value. If this value was discovered thousands of years ago all around the world, then the fact that modern classical music is dominated by non-Americans is irrelevant. There are plenty of music forms that have proper energy, frequency, and tone that Americans can partake in.



I'm familiar with the experiment. I don't know enough about tuning systems to disagree with you.

 

[Leagon]

Western tradition has no value to me.

The truths of science and viewable evidence have value to me.

I am Buddhist and my only child is half Chinese.

I think we're on the same page?

We may be, but you said this earlier:

There is a reason that China, the largest and arguable most powerful nation in the world, and other East Asian nations like South Korea are also adopting western music and culture while we surrender it, and are thus thriving and even dominanting American Ivy League Universities and dominating the classical music world.

The implication here is that "western music and culture" is superior the traditional music and culture of China and other East Asian nations. But we've already established that the components of classical music that make it so great aren't unique to classical music and actually predate it by thousands of years. So why would these countries leave their equally valuable and far more proven musical traditions to adopt a western tradition that is comparably new. Also, hip hop, basketball, and breakdancing are also aspects of Western culture that are being increasingly adopted across China and South Korea. Would you argue that these are partially responsible for why East Asians are dominating American Ivy League Universities? If you wouldn't then I don't see what's different about classical music.

 

[ImNotSurpisedDonks!]

Bach is the fookin' GOAT.

 

[ImNotSurpisedDonks!]

We may be, but you said this earlier:



The implication here is that "western music and culture" is superior the traditional music and culture of China and other East Asian nations. But we've already established that the components of classical music that make it so great aren't unique to classical music and actually predate it by thousands of years. So why would these countries leave their equally valuable and far more proven musical traditions to adopt a western tradition that is comparably new. Also, hip hop, basketball, and breakdancing are also aspects of Western culture that are being increasingly adopted across China and South Korea. Would you argue that these are partially responsible for why East Asians are dominating American Ivy League Universities? If you wouldn't then I don't see what's different about classical music.

Classical music is annotated. The greatest pieces of all time were written down, note for note, tone for tone, not open for translation, it was standard, not passed down roughly via translation.

Bach is absolutely superior to folk music, and that is because he had the genius and privilege of adding on to self evident truths before and intuitive science from previous generations that have now been proven thru Dr Emoto's experiments. Go play some folk music and observe its effects on water and see what happens. One is parasitic and clogs and distorts the wave form and power systems.

 

[Leagon]

Classical music is annotated. The greatest pieces of all time were written down, note for note, tone for tone, not open for translation, it was standard, not passed down roughly via translation.

Bach is absolutely superior to folk music, and that is because he had the genius and privilege of adding on to self evident truths before and intuitive science from previous generations that have now been proven thru Dr Emoto's experiments. Go play some folk music and observe its effects on water and see what happens. One is parasitic and clogs and distorts the wave form and power systems.

Play what kind of folk music? There are as many varieties of folk music as there are cultures.

In any case, you've now contradicted yourself. First you said that the secret musical sounds that resonate with water and the human body have likely existed for thousands of years. Now you're arguing that those secrets were only unlocked when classical music began systematically recording individual compositions.

And even that argument doesn't make sense because the effect a song has on reality doesn't have to be written down to be replicated. If a blacksmith doesn't write down how he makes a sword, does that mean no one else can ever make a sword of the same quality?

 

[NoDak]

*Deep Sigh*

 

[Whippy McGee]

You don't have any ground in this argument if you voted for Trump.

^^^ Stupid post is stupid. Racism, in all of its forms suck. Sorry you never figured that out.

 

[JuniorSonGoku]

They fucking know it's racist... But look at what everyone is talking about. I guess covering Trump so much has led to them realizing a good tactic. In the end, it's all about...

 

[Madmick]

There are consistent allusions to leftists a this growing, significant canker in White Nationalism they insist has gripped the USA and the rest of the West, the notion being that this corrosive brand of identity politics is pervasive among the right-wing, while not the left-wing, but this fearmongering just doesn't bear out in reality:
Way More Anti-Hate Protesters Showed Up to the Unite the Right Rally in Washington, D.C.
A grand total of 20 hillbillies showed up to Kessler's protest.

As I have said in the past, the left has successfully co-opted the "southern strategy", but uses it towards their economic goal of Marxism, or at least "Democratic Socialists" who swear they aren't "real" socialists even though their would-be leaders publicly fawn over the Latin American model.

 

[mixcontactsport]

Spoiler

I know a lot outside the west. I'm Buddhist, married to a Chinese woman and have a mixed son, not to mention have traveled around the world. I'm a classical musician so I know very well about the influence of music and media programming on culture, not to mention the diversity make up that goes along with it.

For example, if you went to a classical music conservatory 2-3 decades ago, it was all Americans; color\race irrelevant, they were all born in America or European countries. Now if you go, it is 90% foreigners and almost all Asian. So why is this? Is it the Asians fault? No. They raise their kids with classical music, the values we abandoned (family, hard work, etc), make them do well in school, give them structure like we used to have, but Americans have been made lazy by social Marxists that have totally devolved and undone the strength in our culture for their financial, personal and political gain. China appreciates the West and Arts because when they had their Communist Revolution, all the artists and intellectual class was killed off, the culture was dumbed down so people would be good sheep for communism, and that is why the Chinese can also see the signs of Marxism infiltrating our culture now. Mind you, most revolutions and cultural ove throws are NOT bloody and fought with bullets.

I am relaxed, buddy, not upset in the slightest, just telling you facts. It goes A LOT deeper than this too and social programming and global agenda is one of the subjects that I am fascinated by. I really recommend you check out some Alan Watt to see how this cultural and social agenda is being rolled out, and how "Globalism" and "diversification" has been planned to the tee since the 1800's. Here is a good listen but long:



Music history and its industry is a fantastic exposé in how cultural programmers work: i.e. how the cultural programmers wanted people to be less family/community orientated so they introduced rock n roll, which glorified drugs, sexuality n' sin, so that people would be more confused, controllable and dumbed down (good little sheep). From the 40'd to 70's when rock n roll was introduced to Western culture, marriage rates plummeted and they continue to plummet even more today. If the family is weak, then the individual is more controllable (see the book '1984'). The end goal is 'divide and conquer', and also to confuse people in to having the illusion they have Freedom when they actually don't. Just watch a movie from the 1940's, old TV shows (like Leave It To Beaver) and compare that to today in order to see how vastly different the value systems are.

Yes, American 'culture' is dominating the world but it is not classically conservative American culture of family driven Christian values and Freedom, but rather it is this new Globalist Marxist agenda, via introducing video games, technology, big pharma, fast food, porn, bad movies, sex and other low hanging fruit that dumbs people down. People love it because it is akin to how a child chooses sugar cereal over the more healthy vegetables - or, how an addict chooses booze and dope over anealthy life and sobriety.

The end game of all of this is not for the betterment of man but for the betterment of the elites' wallet and making people much more controllable and dumb. They say 'surrender your job and your education, accept less money for work, live in a smaller apartment, don't own land, get hooked on our big pharma, get hooked on our drugs that we import in, dumb down your kids by having them programmed by Marxist thought in your schools, become less empathetic by playing video games where the goal is to kill people, eat this junk food so you need to go to the doctor more and are lazy & tired, don't think and use emotion, watch our movies and media that will make you dumbed down/insecure/feel guilt/anti-family (i.e. how modern movies only win Oscars if they are within the Marxist agenda/anti family and conservative western values) - do all of this so that you are more controllable/dumbed down and us elites keep all the knowledge and power'. This is why YouTube is now censoring every dissenting idea and people that have the power to communicate and reasonably question that authority. As Mao said, he was not afraid of being killed, but was afraid of someone else with a good idea that could communicate it.

This is the West's fault for letting them be culturally raped and dumbed down........all you have your do is look at IQ's plummeting, depression rates, suicide rates, marriage failure rates, birth declines in the native European countries/people as compared to other places to see proof that the Marxist programmers plan are working. Extremist Muslims are breeding like rabbits, have multiple wives, yet here in the West we are worried about cutting off our dicks and peeing in the girls room. It's insanity.



*When I say West btw, I'm not comparing it against the East, just using it as a reference to classical Europe and American type values (freedom is speech), thought (Voltaire and Thomas Jefferson) and culture (Mozart, Da Vinci, Shakespeare, etc).*

Sorry about the length too, but it's one of the subjects I'm most fascinated by

Very nice, and thought out post. The first thing that came to my mind after reading your bit was, you have core family values that you were raised with while living in America. I can see your point of view here, it really does seem like society is being dumbed down, and everything that you know and loved dearly, has changed for what looks like to be for the worst, and to top that off, you know deep down, it will never go back "to the way it was before". I feel you bro, but I'm sorry to say I don't see it that way, because I never felt like an American growing up.

My view and belief is different than yours. I would love to educate you one of these days, but keep in mind, It might probably offend you, and just about everyone here. ps nice vid

 

[mixcontactsport]

I see what's going on.



Carry on.

You know what? I realized you and your followers have "TWPS" so I'm just going to give you guys one really good example of White Privilege. Because I don't feel like arguing back and forth.
White losers, and rejects from their home Countries are treated like Gods in the East. That's it folks, have a good night everyone.

 

[mixcontactsport]

Btw, brother, who is that guy in your AV? Robert Durst?

Mae Blessing.

 

[mixcontactsport]

You're with a white boy now though, I'll take you to the very top of society.

I knew you were special the moment I laid eyes on that eye on your avatar. Catch ya later babe.

 

[IGotAHugePeckah]

As a society, we really need to get past this "you can't be racist against whites" sentiment.

The logic behind it is just moronic. White people do not have "power" over black people, or any other race.

If you don't believe me, the next time you see a large black man in public, go up to him and demand he empty the contents of his pockets and give it to you, because you're white and you have power over him.

Racism/bigotry is bad because it's bad to prejudge and/or hold hatred for people based on the colour of their skin, sexual orientation, religion, etc. It's not good to encourage the hatred of a large group of people. So yes, you can be racist against whites, yes her attitude is disgusting and yes the NYT loses credibility by standing up for her hate-filled views.

 

[NoDak]

I knew you were special the moment I laid eyes on that eye on your avatar. Catch ya later babe.

 

[DeJulez]

Fake news, homie. Never thought that.

Bullshit you made threads about how Conor had a good shot of winning, and how you thought hed win by TKO.
You should have turn up your Leonardo Da Vinci to 100 kilowatts and then smashed your head into your piano until your thoughts cleared.