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  1. Jacob14

    Jacob14 Blue Belt

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    The 1080ti I got about a month ago has shot up to $1,400 on Newegg. I got it for $800. Bananas.
     
  2. jefferz

    jefferz Gold Belt Platinum Member

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    Mining is how people acquire the crypto currencies like bitcoin and etherium.
    To get those currencies, you solve complex algorithms with your computer. video cards work really well crunching those numbers so that's why they're sold out everywhere.
    That's a very, very simplified version and I'm leaving stuff out but it should give you a basic idea of what's going on.
     
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    jefferz Gold Belt Platinum Member

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    1080ti's aren't really profitable for mining due to their power consumption. You're more than likely seeing the card is no longer being made or they've slowed down production.
    I'm guessing it's the second one because mid tier cards are being sold out so quickly and at a larger profit margin, companies are trying to make as many as possible.
    1080's and higher haven't really been affected price wise because the reason above. The only other cards not affected are the gtx1050ti and lower because they don't put out a good hash rate to mine with.

    @Madmick I can see that monitor being useful for email notifications, alarm clock/timer notifications, door bell integration so you know when the pizza guy arrived, etc.
    I definitely wouldn't pay extra money for it, but I wouldn't complain if a monitor had it.
     
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  4. sweede

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    Ok. i get it. They are making money some how. Who? Normal or shady people?

    1. As a person who is not in to the mining world. How does it affect me? Every time my PC is online (and that is all the time). Are there people who can notice what config I have, and use my equipment to solve said algorithms? Do I have to click on shady links (I never do) to get this infection or can they hack "clean" computers like in the spy-movies?

    2. The above poster I replied to said "damn miners". I have heard this quite many times. What do they mean? Are the miners affecting the pricing for the higher-end GPU´s? Or am I totally out in the blue?
     
  5. jefferz

    jefferz Gold Belt Platinum Member

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    The only way it will affect you is if you want a new graphics card.
    There have been some websites that will use your computer to mine when you have their website open, but it's usually shady stuff like The Pirate Bay or porn. Once you close the tab, it won't mine anymore. The way I look at it, they're just trying to get a different revenue source since everyone uses ad blockers now. I don't agree with it, but I understand it. It's called Coin Hive if you want to dig into it a little more.
    I'm sure there's malware that will use your compute to mine as well, but that can be prevented by using security software such as Malwarebytes.


    Here's a video on how to mine yourself with off the shelf hardware.


    Miners are buying every video card they can get their hands on and filling warehouses with them.
    Here's a mine in Iceland with over 10k video cards
    [​IMG]
     
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    jefferz Gold Belt Platinum Member

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    @GhostZ06 Acer G7 series G277HL 27" IPC 1080 60hz FreeSync 4ms response for $140. Thoughts?
     
  7. GhostZ06

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    when did you get amd card?
     
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    jefferz Gold Belt Platinum Member

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    It would be to replace a 3rd monitor. It won't be used for gaming, I just want real estate.
    My center screen is a 1440 144hz free sync TN. I haven't noticed any tearing at all. Panel to the left is the panel I listed above. I'd like to replace my panel to the right which is a 720p 21" mounted vertically.
    I picked up the panel I listed for $120 on Black Friday and I've been kicking myself since for not picking up another.
     
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    wouldnt make sense to sync up all 1440p monitors?
     
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    Cheers! Much appretiated.

    That picture looks shady, and I kind of getting a vibe of weed plantage. This mining and bitcoin is a new world for me. It reminds me of old school RTS ala Age of Empires and micro management. For me totally waste of time compare to what I get out if it. Pure waste of time. I mean... The electric bill!! Come on...

    But I guess the guy who built this setup, probably have his own private geyser generating power.

    We live in a insane world.
     
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  11. Madmick

    Madmick The Real Hexakaideca Cherokee Staff Member Senior Moderator

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    Literally every one of those functions can be performed by a computer and tailored to notify the user via the monitor itself however you choose.

    It's stupid. RGB is pure vanity. There's no need to pretend it's more than that.
     
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    jefferz Gold Belt Platinum Member

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    I'm not going to use the side panels for gaming, so there's really no sense in spending the extra money on 1440p panels.

    Eh, I see use cases for it. Are they solid? No, it would be more for someone that likes to tinker/program.
     
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    dont judge me mick, i gotta look good to play good baby.
     
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    jefferz Gold Belt Platinum Member

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    Crypto-Jacking is a thing. Nothing has to be installed to your PC. There are javascript mining pop-unders that have been going around from shadier sites, but scripts have been inserted on reputable sites too. I believe they're being stopped by browser manufacturers by limiting cpu usage on unfocused tabs/windows.

    https://www.wired.com/story/cryptojacking-has-gotten-out-of-control/
     
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    Thank you very much for that link. Very imformative and now I know something new.

    Have I been living under a rock, not knowing about this mining-world? I think it has to do with my lack of interest of things that are useless to have knowledge about.

    I have to give credit to the people spending tons of their life to create ways of making money. But there differs my view of it. As I see it, the crypto-currencies are as worthless as me trying to sell fresh air to breathe.

    And if indeed these players are hording for GPU´s for the highest amount of Cudas and Ram, then they can go to hell. I mean, I am about to look for a new graphic card and the price for a 1080 Ti in Sweden, is for the cheapest version at high 8000 SEK(1000 USD). It has gone so far that the sellers says MAX 1 card per person. That is fucked up.

    Way to much for me. Do I really have to wait for this Scam of Bitcoin to die out, until I can buy a card for a fair price?

    Sorry for babbling. Thanks again for the link!
     
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    Joe_Armstrong Starfleet Belt

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    I'm looking at a HP PC right now.
    Ryzen 5, RX 580, 16 GB, 128gb SSD, 1TB. 6 USB, 1 HDMI, 3x DP
    For under 1000 Eur.
    Not bad right ?
     
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    jefferz Gold Belt Platinum Member

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    DIYPC for $20AR. Mid tower, acrylic side panel, comes with 3 fans, power supply basement with 2 3.5" bays, 2 SSD mounts with another on the back of the tray,
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  19. Brampton_Boy

    Brampton_Boy Douchey Mc Douche

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    The latest editions to my computing collection:

    MSI Apache Pro GE62 (purchased second hand for $700CAD)
    6700HQ
    16GB
    GTX 960m
    256G M2 SSD

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    Dell XPS 12 (2015) (purchased second hand for $450CAD)
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    Truthfully, I didn't need either. I don't game on the go (or much at all), but my Sony Pro Duo 13 was the worst of both worlds when traveling. It wasn't powerful enough to do mathematical modeling (it used the 4300u), and wasn't really portable enough to just pull out on the fly. It was a weird design where the screen faced out, so I was always afraid of shattering it in my back pack.

    There are a couple of perks to being in your 30s and childless - you have alot more disposable income to spend on random things you don't need. Long gone are the days of saving up from my weekend job to buy a Voodoo 2 graphics card.
     
  20. Madmick

    Madmick The Real Hexakaideca Cherokee Staff Member Senior Moderator

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    No, not bad. I don't have a great sense for your markets, but that seems solid.

    Also, not sure if I saw it in this thread or the other, but the power draw differences between the GTX 1060 and RX 580 in a desktop environment are nominal: barely worthy of consideration.
     
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