Nganou would murder Fedor

This is a list of his opponents in it's entirety, with records at time of their fight and where they were in the rankings:

Martin Lazarov (0-0) NR
Levon Lagvilava (1-2) NR
Hiroya Takada (0-0) NR
Ricardo Arona (2-0) #13
Tsuyoshi Kosaka (22-10-2) #13
Mihail Apostolov (0-0) NR
Kerry Schall (5-2) #67
Renato Sobral (19-2) #8
Ryushi Yanigasawa (24-21-9) #44
Lee Hasdell (11-13-3) #104
Chris Haseman (18-11) NR
Semmy Schilt (22-10-1) #7
Heath Herring (20-7) #9
Antonio Rodrigo Nougeria (19-1-1) #1
Egidijus Valavicius (5-2) #105
Kazuyuki Fujita (8-3) #35
Gary Goodridge (17-13-1) #11
Yuji Nagata (0-1) NR
Mark Coleman (13-5) #9
Kevin Randleman (14-7) #22 (Ranked as LHW)
Naoya Ogawa (7-0) #65
Antonio Rodrigo Nougeria (23-2-1) #2
Tsuyoshi Kosaka (24-15-2) #12
Mirko Filipovic (16-2-2) #4
Zuluzinho (4-0) #115
Mark Coleman (15-7) #4
Mark Hunt (5-2) #7
Matt Lindland (20-4) #8 (Ranked as MW)
Choi Hong-man (1-0) NR
Tim Sylvia (24-4) #8
Andre Arlovski (15-5) #6
Brett Rogers (10-0) #7
Fabricio Werdum (13-4-1) #10
Antonio Silva (15-2) #11
Dan Henderson (27-8) #7 (Ranked as LHW)
Jeff Monson (42-12) #31
Satoshi Ishii (4-1-1) #46 (Ranked as LHW)
Pedro Rizzo (19-9) NR
Singh Jaideep (2-0) NR
Fabio Maldonado (22-9) #35 (Ranked as LHW)

Out of 40 matches, 15 of them against top 10 ranked opponents, 21 were in the top 25. 25 were in the top 50. Fedor was 13-2 against top 10 opponents. He faced against 13 former champions in from different organizations, going 11-2 against them. 9 were former/current kick-boxers, 13 were wrestlers and 11 Jiu Jitsu submission fighters. 7 Miscellaneous. He faced a top ten opponent every 1.5 years from 2001 to 2011. Add to the fact he went undefeated for ten years as well.
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He beat wanderlei and crocop nonetheless. Mirko landed plenty of meaningful strikes. It just didn't stop hunt for reasons that baffle the scientists to this day. It wasn't a terrible fight,just mirko didnt wanna trade hands with hunt. It woulda worked if hunt felt kicks like most people
This, and I don't think that Ngannou's punch is as strong as a full blast CC LHK, and still, Hunt managed to get up after eating one in K1 and ate two of them in Pride like it was nothing.

Hunt was a monster, but like every striker one day the chin goes out and they start losing again.

And for some weird reason, probably pride of having a former K1 opponent, Mirko didn't go for a takedown until later in the third round.
 
Fedor merked Arlovski only 2 years prior to this fight and was pretty active during the period. Claiming the guy suddenly went out of his prime is ridiculous.

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This is a list of his opponents in it's entirety, with records at time of their fight and where they were in the rankings:

Martin Lazarov (0-0) NR
Levon Lagvilava (1-2) NR
Hiroya Takada (0-0) NR
Ricardo Arona (2-0) #13
Tsuyoshi Kosaka (22-10-2) #13
Mihail Apostolov (0-0) NR
Kerry Schall (5-2) #67
Renato Sobral (19-2) #8
Ryushi Yanigasawa (24-21-9) #44
Lee Hasdell (11-13-3) #104
Chris Haseman (18-11) NR
Semmy Schilt (22-10-1) #7
Heath Herring (20-7) #9
Antonio Rodrigo Nougeria (19-1-1) #1
Egidijus Valavicius (5-2) #105
Kazuyuki Fujita (8-3) #35
Gary Goodridge (17-13-1) #11
Yuji Nagata (0-1) NR
Mark Coleman (13-5) #9
Kevin Randleman (14-7) #22 (Ranked as LHW)
Naoya Ogawa (7-0) #65
Antonio Rodrigo Nougeria (23-2-1) #2
Tsuyoshi Kosaka (24-15-2) #12
Mirko Filipovic (16-2-2) #4
Zuluzinho (4-0) #115
Mark Coleman (15-7) #4
Mark Hunt (5-2) #7
Matt Lindland (20-4) #8 (Ranked as MW)
Choi Hong-man (1-0) NR
Tim Sylvia (24-4) #8
Andre Arlovski (15-5) #6
Brett Rogers (10-0) #7
Fabricio Werdum (13-4-1) #10
Antonio Silva (15-2) #11
Dan Henderson (27-8) #7 (Ranked as LHW)
Jeff Monson (42-12) #31
Satoshi Ishii (4-1-1) #46 (Ranked as LHW)
Pedro Rizzo (19-9) NR
Singh Jaideep (2-0) NR
Fabio Maldonado (22-9) #35 (Ranked as LHW)

Out of 40 matches, 15 of them against top 10 ranked opponents, 21 were in the top 25. 25 were in the top 50. Fedor was 13-2 against top 10 opponents. He faced against 13 former champions in from different organizations, going 11-2 against them. 9 were former/current kick-boxers, 13 were wrestlers and 11 Jiu Jitsu submission fighters. 7 Miscellaneous. He faced a top ten opponent every 1.5 years from 2001 to 2011. Add to the fact he went undefeated for ten years as well.


Ok.

But use original rankings from that time, not this Fightmatrix that are generated 15 years later.

Fedor has 13 + 1 top 10 wins by original rankings from those historic times + more good wins that were not ranked like Coleman 2, Arona, Goodridge, Haseman, Monson, Rizzo.

WIN - Brett Rogers - Nov / 7 / 2009 -- Strikeforce / M-1 Global - Fedor vs. Rogers
7 hw - 2009 - Nov 1 - Fight Matrix-Published
6 hw - 2009 - Oct 31 - Sherdog
8 hw - 2009 - Oct 27 - MMA Weekly
6 hw - 2009 - Oct 13 (16) - Independent World MMA Rankings

WIN - Andrei Arlovski - Jan / 24 / 2009 -- Affliction - Day of Reckoning
19' P4P - 2008 - Dec 31 - YAHOO
3 hw - 2009 - JAN (4?) - MMA Fighting
2 hw - 2009 - Jan 11 - Bloody Elbow-Meta
2 hw - 2009 - Jan 7 - Sherdog
2 hw - 2009 - Jan 6 - Sports Illustrated/Josh Gross

WIN - Tim Sylvia - Jul / 19 / 2008 -- Affliction - Banned
4 hw - 2008 - Jul 9 - Sherdog
5 hw - 2008 - Jul 8 - MMA Weekly
5 hw - 2008 - Jun 30 - MMA Fighting
5 hw - 2008 - Jun 24 - Bloody Elbow-Meta

WIN - Matt Lindland - Apr / 14 / 2007 -- Bodog Fight - Clash of the Nations
8 P4P - 2007 - Mar 30 - MMA on Tap
1 mw - 2007 - Apr 10 - MMA Weekly
3 mw - 2007 - Mar 7 - MMA News
2 mw - 2007 - JAN (17) - Bloody Knux
1 mw - 2006 - Nov 30 - MMA Fighting

WIN - Mark Hunt - Dec / 31 / 2006 -- Pride FC - Shockwave 2006
9 hw - 2006 - Dec 19 - MMA Weekly
7 hw - 2006 - Nov 30 - MMA Fighting
9 hw - 2006 - Nov 29 - MMA News
5 hw - 2006 - NOV - Associated Fight Press-Fightsport

WIN - Mirko Filipovic - Aug / 28 / 2005 -- Pride FC - Final Conflict 2005
2 hw - 2005 - Aug 12 - Fighters & Broadcasters Poll
3 hw - 2005 - JUN - Full Contact Fighter
3 hw - 2005 - May (12) - Bloody Knux
3 hw - 2005 - May 4 - ADCC MMA Top Ten

WIN - Tsuyoshi Kosaka - Apr / 3 / 2005 -- Pride - Bushido 6
17' hw - 2005 - Mar 8 - MMA Fighting

WIN - Antonio Rodrigo Nogueira - Dec / 31 / 2004 -- Pride - Shockwave 2004
2 hw - 2004 - Dec 26 - The MMA Collective-MMARanks
1 hw - 2004 - Dec 20 - ADCC MMA Top Ten
2 hw - 2004 - NOV - Fighters & Broadcasters Poll
2 hw - 2004 - Nov 14 - MMA Fighting

WIN - Naoya Ogawa - Aug / 15 / 2004 -- Pride FC - Final Conflict 2004
15 hw - 2004 - Jul 5 - MMA Fighting

WIN - Kevin Randleman - Jun / 20 / 2004 -- Pride FC - Critical Countdown 2004
10 HW - 2004 - May - Inside Fighting
10 lhw - 2004 - May 20 - ADCC MMA Top Ten
8 lhw - 2004 - MAY - Fighters & Broadcasters Poll
9 lhw - 2004 - Apr 12 - Stephen Quadros

WIN - Mark Coleman - Apr / 25 / 2004 -- Pride FC - Total Elimination 2004
8 hw - 2004 - APR^ - Max Fighting/Josh Gross

WIN - Kazuyuki Fujita - Jun / 8 / 2003 -- Pride 26 - Bad to the Bone
10 hw - 2003 - May 4 - MMA News

WIN - Antonio Rodrigo Nogueira - Mar / 16 / 2003 -- Pride 25 - Body Blow
1 hw - 2003 - Mar 4 - MMA News
1 hw - 2003 - MAR^ - Associated Fight Press-Fightsport
1 hw - 2003 - Feb 15 - MMA Media Top 10
1 hw - 2003 - Jan 31 - Fighters & Broadcasters Poll

WIN - Heath Herring - Nov / 24 / 2002 -- Pride 23 - Championship Chaos 2
4 hw - 2002 - Nov 1 - MMA Media Top 10
4 hw - 2002 - OCT - Associated Fight Press-Fightsport
3 hw - 2002 - Sep 4 - Stephen Quadros
7 hw - 2002 - FEB - MMA Weekly-Fan Vote

WIN - Semmy Schilt - Jun / 23 / 2002 -- Pride 21 - Demolition
10 hw - 2002 - Jun 11 - MMA Media Top 10
9 hw - 2002 - Jan 12 - Stephen Quadros

WIN - Renato Sobral - Aug / 11 / 2001 -- Rings - 10th Anniversary
9 hw - 2001 - JAN - MMA Writers Top Ten (^2-0 vs TK & Tamura)
 
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Easily. Fedor couldn't beat a UFC MW.

Overrated and Ngannou kills him inside 1

But Fedor has 7 wins over 5 UFC HW champions...

GSP got knocked out by a Lightweight, Matt Serra. He actually tapped to strikes.

TRT Hendo weighed 208. Fedor cut to 224 to make it fair. TRT Hendo hits hard as fuck.
Anyone who denies that is stupid. Frankie would incinerate any version of Feds that ever fought. He would have had Kettlebell Fedor airlifted to the nearest Level 1 trauma center.

Fedor was statistically the least hit fighter in the sport for several years. He absorbed less strikes per minute than even Anderson and Machida.

Ngannou beat 40 year old dudes that have been KO'ed like 15 times each.

Let's see if Ngannou can even beat Stipe.


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Prime Fedor was knocked the FOOK out by MW

GSP was KO'ed by a a lightweight, Matt Serra.

TRT Hendo weighed 208. Fedor weighed 224. TRT Hendo hits like a truck.

Plus, a lot of people lose in their 12th year in their career. But only Fedor and Aldo went 10 years undefeated. At some point everyone declines, even Fedor, Aldo, Michael Jordan, etc.

Look at BJ losing to Yair, or Arlovski losing to Tybura. At some point athletes decline and skills diminish after fighting so long
 
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Fedor merked Arlovski only 2 years prior to this fight and was pretty active during the period. Claiming the guy suddenly went out of his prime is ridiculous.

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We all noticed how Fedor looked to be declining around the Arlovski and Rogers fights, yet he still managed to win those because he still had that KO power.

Same way that GSP was already declining when he beat Condit, Diaz and Hendricks. GSP's knees were shot but he still had enough to win.

Eventually you will lose if you keep fighting past your prime, as seen by just about every single fighter in MMA and boxing history...

Most fighters only have about 10 good years.

But in his prime from 2000 to 2010 Fedor is the most incredible fighter I have ever seen.
 
But Fedor has 7 wins over 5 UFC HW champions...

GSP got knocked out by a Lightweight, Matt Serra. He actually tapped to strikes.

TRT Hendo weighed 208. Fedor cut to 224 to make it fair. TRT Hendo hits hard as fuck.


Fedor was statistically the least hit fighter in the sport for several years. He absorbed less strikes per minute than even Anderson and Machida.

Ngannou beat 40 year old dudes that have been KO'ed like 15 times each.

Let's see if Ngannou can even beat Stipe.




GSP was KO'ed by a a lightweight, Matt Serra.

TRT Hendo weighed 208. Fedor weighed 224. TRT Hendo hits like a truck.

Plus, a lot of people lose in their 12th year in their career. But only Fedor and Aldo went 10 years undefeated. At some point everyone declines, even Fedor, Aldo, Michael Jordan, etc.

Look at BJ losing to Yair, or Arlovski loving to Tybura. At some point athletes decline and skills diminish after fighting so long

They don't understand how much better Fedor was compared to all others.

Fedor is the fighter's fighter. They all hold him as the GOAT, only some fans have misconceptions.
 
New fans are the best fans.

Fedor would’ve bullied him, he was super fast and accurate, if you clinched up you were taken down and when it hit the mat? Well I hope you could grapple too.

NGannou has done what so far, knock a few fighters out? Fedor ruled over HW for a decade, defeated all comers and finally succumbed to age.

Fedor HW GOAT. Mentioning N’Gannou in the same breath is pretty disrespectful at this early stage of his career.

But hey, new fans.
 
Ok.

But use original rankings from that time, not this Fightmatrix that are generated 15 years later.

Fedor has 13 + 1 top 10 wins by original rankings from those historic times + more good wins that were not ranked like Coleman 2, Arona, Goodridge, Haseman, Monson, Rizzo.

WIN - Brett Rogers - Nov / 7 / 2009 -- Strikeforce / M-1 Global - Fedor vs. Rogers
7 hw - 2009 - Nov 1 - Fight Matrix-Published
6 hw - 2009 - Oct 31 - Sherdog
8 hw - 2009 - Oct 27 - MMA Weekly
6 hw - 2009 - Oct 13 (16) - Independent World MMA Rankings

WIN - Andrei Arlovski - Jan / 24 / 2009 -- Affliction - Day of Reckoning
19' P4P - 2008 - Dec 31 - YAHOO
3 hw - 2009 - JAN (4?) - MMA Fighting
2 hw - 2009 - Jan 11 - Bloody Elbow-Meta
2 hw - 2009 - Jan 7 - Sherdog
2 hw - 2009 - Jan 6 - Sports Illustrated/Josh Gross

WIN - Tim Sylvia - Jul / 19 / 2008 -- Affliction - Banned
4 hw - 2008 - Jul 9 - Sherdog
5 hw - 2008 - Jul 8 - MMA Weekly
5 hw - 2008 - Jun 30 - MMA Fighting
5 hw - 2008 - Jun 24 - Bloody Elbow-Meta

WIN - Matt Lindland - Apr / 14 / 2007 -- Bodog Fight - Clash of the Nations
8 P4P - 2007 - Mar 30 - MMA on Tap
1 mw - 2007 - Apr 10 - MMA Weekly
3 mw - 2007 - Mar 7 - MMA News
2 mw - 2007 - JAN (17) - Bloody Knux
1 mw - 2006 - Nov 30 - MMA Fighting

WIN - Mark Hunt - Dec / 31 / 2006 -- Pride FC - Shockwave 2006
9 hw - 2006 - Dec 19 - MMA Weekly
7 hw - 2006 - Nov 30 - MMA Fighting
9 hw - 2006 - Nov 29 - MMA News
5 hw - 2006 - NOV - Associated Fight Press-Fightsport

WIN - Mirko Filipovic - Aug / 28 / 2005 -- Pride FC - Final Conflict 2005
2 hw - 2005 - Aug 12 - Fighters & Broadcasters Poll
3 hw - 2005 - JUN - Full Contact Fighter
3 hw - 2005 - May (12) - Bloody Knux
3 hw - 2005 - May 4 - ADCC MMA Top Ten

WIN - Tsuyoshi Kosaka - Apr / 3 / 2005 -- Pride - Bushido 6
17' hw - 2005 - Mar 8 - MMA Fighting

WIN - Antonio Rodrigo Nogueira - Dec / 31 / 2004 -- Pride - Shockwave 2004
2 hw - 2004 - Dec 26 - The MMA Collective-MMARanks
1 hw - 2004 - Dec 20 - ADCC MMA Top Ten
2 hw - 2004 - NOV - Fighters & Broadcasters Poll
2 hw - 2004 - Nov 14 - MMA Fighting

WIN - Naoya Ogawa - Aug / 15 / 2004 -- Pride FC - Final Conflict 2004
15 hw - 2004 - Jul 5 - MMA Fighting

WIN - Kevin Randleman - Jun / 20 / 2004 -- Pride FC - Critical Countdown 2004
10 HW - 2004 - May - Inside Fighting
10 lhw - 2004 - May 20 - ADCC MMA Top Ten
8 lhw - 2004 - MAY - Fighters & Broadcasters Poll
9 lhw - 2004 - Apr 12 - Stephen Quadros

WIN - Mark Coleman - Apr / 25 / 2004 -- Pride FC - Total Elimination 2004
8 hw - 2004 - APR^ - Max Fighting/Josh Gross

WIN - Kazuyuki Fujita - Jun / 8 / 2003 -- Pride 26 - Bad to the Bone
10 hw - 2003 - May 4 - MMA News

WIN - Antonio Rodrigo Nogueira - Mar / 16 / 2003 -- Pride 25 - Body Blow
1 hw - 2003 - Mar 4 - MMA News
1 hw - 2003 - MAR^ - Associated Fight Press-Fightsport
1 hw - 2003 - Feb 15 - MMA Media Top 10
1 hw - 2003 - Jan 31 - Fighters & Broadcasters Poll

WIN - Heath Herring - Nov / 24 / 2002 -- Pride 23 - Championship Chaos 2
4 hw - 2002 - Nov 1 - MMA Media Top 10
4 hw - 2002 - OCT - Associated Fight Press-Fightsport
3 hw - 2002 - Sep 4 - Stephen Quadros
7 hw - 2002 - FEB - MMA Weekly-Fan Vote

WIN - Semmy Schilt - Jun / 23 / 2002 -- Pride 21 - Demolition
10 hw - 2002 - Jun 11 - MMA Media Top 10
9 hw - 2002 - Jan 12 - Stephen Quadros

WIN - Renato Sobral - Aug / 11 / 2001 -- Rings - 10th Anniversary
9 hw - 2001 - JAN - MMA Writers Top Ten (^2-0 vs TK & Tamura)
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What does that have to do with your farcical assumption that hunt couldn't beat elite fighters in kickboxing and mma,which he has done several times. Just because your horribly wrong doesn't mean you gotta go creating impossible scenarios to feel better about yourself. You should feel bad,that way you won't speak false so much.
Hunt has never beaten an elite fighter in mma.
 
5’7 140lbs girls in Judo could dump you on your head. You think a 5’10 230 pound multi time Sambo champion couldn’t do it to guys bigger then him ?

I meant that if you just looked at fedor against someone like Ngannou.
 
People forget (or never knew) just how quick Fedor was in his prime.
 
But Fedor has 7 wins over 5 UFC HW champions...

GSP got knocked out by a Lightweight, Matt Serra. He actually tapped to strikes.

TRT Hendo weighed 208. Fedor cut to 224 to make it fair. TRT Hendo hits hard as fuck.


Fedor was statistically the least hit fighter in the sport for several years. He absorbed less strikes per minute than even Anderson and Machida.

Ngannou beat 40 year old dudes that have been KO'ed like 15 times each.

Let's see if Ngannou can even beat Stipe.




GSP was KO'ed by a a lightweight, Matt Serra.

TRT Hendo weighed 208. Fedor weighed 224. TRT Hendo hits like a truck.

Plus, a lot of people lose in their 12th year in their career. But only Fedor and Aldo went 10 years undefeated. At some point everyone declines, even Fedor, Aldo, Michael Jordan, etc.

Look at BJ losing to Yair, or Arlovski losing to Tybura. At some point athletes decline and skills diminish after fighting so long


Getting knocked out is one thing but getting out wrestled on the ground is another. The fact that He was schooled by someone who was underweighted by 20 pounds shows how overrated Ferdor was.

You can't compare GSP as an example as he suffered loss fairly early in his career. Aldo was dethroned by Max who is a champion which is vastly different from the opponents Fedor lost to.

Arlovski is also not comparable since he took so much damage and dropped so many times whereas Fedor was rarely hurt during his career. BJ was 38 when he lost to Yair, no where near as old as Fedor when he started to loss.
 
It's silly to pretend someone with that magnitude of KO power has *no* chance against even a prime version of Fedor, when prime Fedor showed periods of vulnerability against significantly worse fighters like Fujita, Coleman, or (MMA Green) Hunt.

I would be extremely interested to see how his game holds up when his grappling or cardio are meaningfully tested (or both).

Prime Fedor mixed all the elements of MMA together more beautifully than anyone until GSP and Jones came along. He was also much more strategic.

I'd give it 70/30 in favor of Fedor.
 
Getting knocked out is one thing but getting out wrestled on the ground is another. The fact that He was schooled by someone who was underweighted by 20 pounds shows how overrated Ferdor was.

You can't compare GSP as an example as he suffered loss fairly early in his career. Aldo was dethroned by Max who is a champion which is vastly different from the opponents Fedor lost to.

Arlovski is also not comparable since he took so much damage and dropped so many times whereas Fedor was rarely hurt during his career. BJ was 38 when he lost to Yair, no where near as old as Fedor when he started to loss.


That was 12 years into his career when Fedor lost to TRT Hendo.

That was the most dangerous version of Hendo versus the worst version of Fedor.

All fighters decline after 9 or 10 years and start losing. Even Conor. Even Francis will too.

Fedor and Aldo are the only fighters that went 10 years undefeated. That is why they are the GOATS. Everyone eventually slows down
 
That was 12 years into his career when Fedor lost to TRT Hendo.

That was the most dangerous version of Hendo versus the worst version of Fedor.

All fighters decline after 9 or 10 years and start losing. Even Conor. Even Francis will too.

Fedor and Aldo are the only fighters that went 10 years undefeated. That is why they are the GOATS. Everyone eventually slows down

Nope, that was the old man Hendo who was going 14 years into his MMA career which isn't even including his wrestling career. Fedor fought the guy who is so old and deteriorated, and therefore had no choice but to rely on TRT to perform in an acceptable level. Fedor fought this guy and still lost.

Or fight guys who are better than them have you ever considered that ?
 
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