North Korea EMP attack could ‘shut down US power grid and kill 90% of Americans’

Uh-huh. What's the effective blast radius of the largest EMP weapon?
 
Wasn't there a bigger thread on this recently? Time to make them Faraday cages and save your porno on DVD-R.
 
I'm still waiting for 'little' Kim to do his Hydrogen Bomb test in the Pacific. What happened to that? He said he would, so it must be true. Little Kim would never lie about such things. But it has been a few months now...

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fartJokes said:
Uh-huh. What's the effective blast radius of the largest EMP weapon?
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There are no EMP weapons. EMPs are generated by nuclear blasts but the EMP power outside of the nuclear blast radius is not powerful enough do much damage at all. It might take out a street light or two as has been seen in past tests.
 
fartJokes said:
Uh-huh. What's the effective blast radius of the largest EMP weapon?
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Judging by the damage done by Starfish Prime in 1962, a w49 nuclear warhead (1.44 megatons) detonated at an altitude of 250 miles caused electrical damage as far as 900 miles away. Obviously, a stronger nuke would produce a stronger EM pulse.

Hard to say what the exact radius would be, but from what I remember reading a few years back, it would only take a few well placed atmospheric detonations to wipe out the entire US power grid, essentially sending us back to the stone age.

Not that I think North Korea will have that capability anytime soon. But it's still a scary(and not very far fetched) scenario.
 
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If losing electricity has a 90% death rate, then how is Puerto Rico still around?

Idiots throwing out crazy numbers just to get their paper looked at
 
I saw this headline on Yahoo the other day and just kind of shook my head. While I agree that Trump says some dumb shit, a lot of the left media will push bullshit like this where they are trying to fear mongering people into thinking that North Korea is an actual threat; or twist things to the point of where it's actually a good thing that Iran is enriching Uranium.
 
HockeyBjj said:
If losing electricity has a 90% death rate, then how is Puerto Rico still around?

Idiots throwing out crazy numbers just to get their paper looked at
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Not the same scenario at all. Even ignoring the fact that Puerto Rico is getting a shit ton of aid.

In the EMP scenario, all cars with electronics are dead(so everything beyond like 1975??? or so?), your phones are dead--not just the tower but your actual phone is bricked, there's no running water, no refrigeration, and no deliveries. And it won't be fixed anytime soon because the entire grid is down, from source to destination. Now imagine that happens to all or most of the US(and probably Canada and Mexico) at the same time. I don't think there's enough aid in the world to save even half of the people.

90% seems a bit high, but I wouldn't be surprised if it's 90% in cities like LA and New York where there's just too many people and not enough resources.

I don't think North Korea has any chance in hell of accomplishing that with their current state of development, but yea...
 
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Phelly2 said:
Not the same scenario at all. Even ignoring the fact that Puerto Rico is getting a shit ton of aid.

In the EMP scenario, all cars with electronics are dead(so everything beyond like 1975??? or so?), your phones are dead--not just the tower but your actual phone is bricked, there's no running water, no refrigeration, and no deliveries. And it won't be fixed anytime soon because the entire grid is down, from source to destination. Now imagine that happens to all or most of the US(and probably Canada and Mexico) at the same time. I don't think there's enough aid in the world to save even half of the people.

90% seems a bit high, but I wouldn't be surprised if it's 90% in cities like LA and New York where there's just too many people and not enough resources.

I don't think North Korea has any chance in hell of accomplishing that with their current state of development, but yea...
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"They detected an EMP, and it did some damage but not that much. A bomb about a hundred times bigger than the one North Korea currently possesses knocked out a few streetlights in Hawaii. Lewis says more recent tests showed that cars, for example, can survive a pulse quite well. Given all that, Lewis says it's more likely the North would use nukes in a direct attack against the U.S. and its allies."

http://www.popularmechanics.com/military/weapons/news/a28425/emp-north-korea/
 
Phelly2 said:
Not the same scenario at all. Even ignoring the fact that Puerto Rico is getting a shit ton of aid.

In the EMP scenario, all cars with electronics are dead(so everything beyond like 1975??? or so?), your phones are dead--not just the tower but your actual phone is bricked, there's no running water, no refrigeration, and no deliveries. And it won't be fixed anytime soon because the entire grid is down, from source to destination. Now imagine that happens to all or most of the US(and probably Canada and Mexico) at the same time. I don't think there's enough aid in the world to save even half of the people.

90% seems a bit high, but I wouldn't be surprised if it's 90% in cities like LA and New York where there's just too many people and not enough resources.

I don't think North Korea has any chance in hell of accomplishing that with their current state of development, but yea...
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No. The whole EMP permanently destroys anything with a circuit board is a myth that is played up for action movies and video games.

I'm an electrical engineer. I've played with EMP type things in a classroom sized Faraday cage. It was fun. Considering that the pulse was created inches away from what we were trying to hit, I think it's a fair representation of a pulse that's much more powerful but further away

It would cause some goofiness to electronics, especially stuff with a spinning hardrive, but almost everything came back to normal after being shut off and back on

I would bet we'd be back to mostly normal in a week or two if this ever did happen

Also. Yes. PR got a ton of aide. You think Europe wouldn't be sending a ton our way if something that big affected the whole US?

Edit: here's a YouTube link of an emp security weapon shutting down a car, but then once the waves are gone, the car can start right up again



Yeah, it'd cause some problems for us. But this whole back to the stone age for months is ridiculous
 
Why do we need 3 topics about this?
Fuck this
#fakenews
 
HockeyBjj said:
If losing electricity has a 90% death rate, then how is Puerto Rico still around?

Idiots throwing out crazy numbers just to get their paper looked at
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Lol yeah my exact question.. how would electrical failure cause us to all die?
 
m52nickerson said:
There are no EMP weapons. EMPs are generated by nuclear blasts but the EMP power outside of the nuclear blast radius is not powerful enough do much damage at all. It might take out a street light or two as has been seen in past tests.
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To be fair, a high altitude EMP could potentially do more damage than that. The Starfish Prime test from the 1960s knocked out hundreds of streetlights in Hawaii along with some phone systems, and the detonation point of the nuke was almost 1000 miles away.

In any event, with regards to North Korea... yea I agree that article is a huge exaggeration and in reality they pose little or no threat of successfully executing an EMP attack. They would basically require the same capabilities to launch an ICBM to nuke the US, which they don't have.
 
m52nickerson said:
There are no EMP weapons. EMPs are generated by nuclear blasts but the EMP power outside of the nuclear blast radius is not powerful enough do much damage at all. It might take out a street light or two as has been seen in past tests.
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Lol wat. Wrong. Stick to midget tranny discussion.
 
there only needs to be one of left to nuke the world so 90% wont cut it
 
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