NY Post : "Trump is totally right about the dangers of Medicare for All"

Here's a funny thing though:

I did a report about 4 years ago back when I used to work for McKinsey and we did a study on the effect of socialized healthcare and the biggest secondary beneficiaries.

Hilariously, the largest benefactor outside of people who otherwise couldn't afford healthcare are rich business owners.

I'm happy to expand on this if you want
 
1. Science, start reading it. There is no end to the amount of increases to life as they already know what causes aging...go look up CRISPR.

2. Did you just try to say that baby mortality kept the average human lifespan half what it actually was?!? Do you even read?

Go pick up any book written in the 1800s and youll see people in their 40s referred to as old and a person in their 50s and 60s as living well past their years.

Life expectancy at 5 was 50 years and life expectancy at 50 was 20 years in the XIX century in England.
 
Life expectancy at 5 was 50 years and life expectancy at 50 was 20 years in the XIX century in England.

Please use actual credible statistics. The link I provided is world information...not personal opinion.
 
Please use actual credible statistics. The link I provided is world information...not personal opinion.

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http://www.osfi-bsif.gc.ca/Eng/Docs/DEIP_Gallop.pdf

An 65 years old had almost no life expectancy gains from 1900 to 1960.

So while most early life expectancy gains in the first half of the XX century were made through lowering child mortality, the gains from the second half were due to advanced care.
 
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http://www.osfi-bsif.gc.ca/Eng/Docs/DEIP_Gallop.pdf

An 65 years old had almost no life expectancy gains from 1900 to 1960.

So while most early life expectancy gains in the first half of the XX century were made through lowering child mortality, the gains from the second half were due to advanced care.

Someone clearly does not understand what the fuck statistics are...

if the lifespan of a nation is 50 in the year 1900, it means most people died at the age of 50 during that time frame.

The very idea that someone feels the need to spin this is Kool-Aid drinking level shit.

"Life expectancy is a statistical measure of the average time an organism is expected to live, based on the year of its birth, its current age and other demographic factors including gender. The most commonly used measure of life expectancy is at birth (LEB), which can be defined in two ways. Cohort LEB is the mean length of life of an actual birth cohort (all individuals born a given year) and can be computed only for cohorts born many decades ago, so that all their members have died. Period LEB is the mean length of life , from birth through death"
 
Someone clearly does not understand what the fuck statistics are...

if the lifespan of a nation is 50 in the year 1900, it means most people died at the age of 50 during that time frame.

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Do you even know what cohort means without looking it up?
 
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Do you even know what cohort means without looking it up?

Take your own advice...one would think that the quotes around what I posted along with it being in Italic would have been a hint it was not my definition.

BTW, do you know what "two ways" means without looking it up. The Cohort LEB was not the one used by the WORLDS DATABASE. Its the PERIOD LEB used because of the TYPE OF DATABASE it is. Who the actual fuck is going to use a Cohort LEB to find out what NATIONS lifespan is...as I said, take your own advice fool because even the SITE I link states the date is from each countries own death statistics...fuckwit.

This isnt some damn marking data...

<Huh2>
 
Take your own advice...one would think that the quotes around what I posted along with it being in Italic would have been a hint it was not my definition.

BTW, do you know what "two ways" means without looking it up. The Cohort LEB was not the one used by the WORLDS DATABASE. Its the PERIOD LEB used because of the TYPE OF DATABASE it is. Who the actual fuck is going to use a Cohort LEB to find out what NATIONS lifespan is...as I said, take your own advice fool because even the SITE I link states the date is from each countries own death statistics...fuckwit.

This isnt some damn marking data...

<Huh2>


Are you stupid or what? i posted the life expectancy at different stages of life to prove that life expectancy isnt actually a normal distribution, due to the increased risk of dying as a child.

But then again, do you know what mode, mean and median is without looking it up? you do realize that the median, mode and average are not the same when it comes to life expectancy.

But its all there in the table i presented, it simply was beyond your educational level so you dismissed it.
 
none of that is a "good deal". I had a heart attack last year and was in hospital for a week and it didnt cost me a thing. Literally nothing. It was paid for through taxation. Nobody asked me about money, they just worried about caring for me.

thats a good deal

That's all great but socialized medicine is really close to "socialism."

So I'll keep paying $1k for a 30-minute doctor visit, thanks.
 
Are you stupid or what? i posted the life expectancy at different stages of life to prove that life expectancy isnt actually a normal distribution, due to the increased risk of dying as a child.

I dont give a shit about a photo done by some small group...I gave a link to the only group to do this for the world, using all statistics that track this. You have a fucking group using demographic data to show PARTIAL information, not TOTAL information.

Fucking halfwit. My data is actually used by governments, yours is used by small groups for marketing...halfwit.
 
I dont give a shit about a photo done by some small group...I gave a link to the only group to do this for the world, using all statistics that track this. You have a fucking group using demographic data to show PARTIAL information, not TOTAL information.

Fucking halfwit. My data is actually used by governments, yours is used by small groups for marketing...halfwit.

You dont understand the data, the more you speak the more dumb you sound to anyone with even the basic concepts of statistics.
 
You dont understand the data, the more you speak the more dumb you sound to anyone with even the basic concepts of statistics.

Right, *I* dont understand....

Not, you who is arguing against the only group in the world to gather this data which clearly states on this link below that "I.2 It is not only about child mortality – life expectancy by age" after clearly stating that the data in their charts are "This corresponds to an estimate of the average number of years a new born infant would live if prevailing patterns of mortality at the time of its birth were to stay the same throughout its life"

https://ourworldindata.org/life-expectancy


Again, Shertard of epic proportions, I have world data accepted by governments, you have garbage based on ignorance of what statistics are and their differences. If that is based on you being stupid, or just too lazy to READ will be proven by your next post...

<GinJuice>
 
I don't know what's more shocking....

That the Democrats believe this Medicare-for-All hare-brained scheme of Sanders OR the NY Post saying that Trump was RIGHT about something?

Yes it's shocking that Rupert Murdoch's paper is right wing. I can't think of anything more shocking that the world's biggest right wing media operation having a right wing perspective.

Also, most people believe it will work for 2 reasons:
  1. Every civilized country already has something similar and generally with excellent outcomes
  2. The US has made similar public service efforts work with education, military, fire, police, etc...
 
I dont give a shit about a photo done by some small group...I gave a link to the only group to do this for the world, using all statistics that track this. You have a fucking group using demographic data to show PARTIAL information, not TOTAL information.

Fucking halfwit. My data is actually used by governments, yours is used by small groups for marketing...halfwit.
my you're an angry little cherub aint ya?
 
my you're an angry little cherub aint ya?

Dont mistake WORDS IN CAPS, for anger. I am actually smiling right now and a little hard to boot. im also noticing you seem to like children with that sig and the cherub comment.

<GOT2>
 
That's all great but socialized medicine is really close to "socialism."

So I'll keep paying $1k for a 30-minute doctor visit, thanks.
so is a police department, fire department, an army, infrastructure, social security etc.

but healthcare is the tipping point right? lol enjoy getting ripped off
 
Right, *I* dont understand....

Not, you who is arguing against the only group in the world to gather this data which clearly states on this link below that "I.2 It is not only about child mortality – life expectancy by age" after clearly stating that the data in their charts are "This corresponds to an estimate of the average number of years a new born infant would live if prevailing patterns of mortality at the time of its birth were to stay the same throughout its life"

https://ourworldindata.org/life-expectancy


Again, Shertard of epic proportions, I have world data accepted by governments, you have garbage based on ignorance of what statistics are and their differences. If that is based on you being stupid, or just too lazy to READ will be proven by your next post...

<GinJuice>

Again, you can bold everything you want, you clearly are unable to understand the data and the more you spike the ball, the more stupid you sound.

What you are bolding is exactly what i am saying.
 
Again, you can bold everything you want, you clearly are unable to understand the data and the more you spike the ball, the more stupid you sound.

What you are bolding is exactly what i am saying.

No it is not, its the opposite. Your shit statistics is giving different results based on age at the time and not the maximum average age of DEATHS at the time to give that basis which is again, why YOUR data does NOT match the real data.

But I do thank you for proving which you are in your reply, just as I said you would. Stupid, not able to understand what you are reading. but hey! Points for reading.
 

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